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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by NilesIrish, Mar 4, 2019.
white suburban women like Kamala, of those choices he should go with her
If nothing else, having an assertive black woman attack will cause Trump and Pence to have their heads explode.
It’s also going to shine a brighter light on the racist cockroaches in the GOP who undoubtedly will go full throated racist when she does it.
"It's ok for her to be racist aginst a white man, but a white man can't criticise to a colored woman! Whos the racist now!"
I actually expect Nikki Haley to replace Pence the day after this is announced. Pence is worthless since he comes from a red state and doesn't bring any evangelicals.
Picking Harris gives her a huge inside track to be the nom in ‘24. If she wins we won’t have a new leader until ‘32. However, if it’s Rice or Bass it’s possible neither run at all. That sets us up for a primary likely to be dominated by Newsom or Cuomo.
To me, it should be a no-brainer to bypass Harris and force her to compete w/o any built-in advantage in ‘24. The fact that most posters here would prob agree she would stand no chance w/o the VP advantage should be a huge red flag. Why should we hitch our wagon to her again?
naming Haley won't move voters and such a move would make Trump look terribly desperate for switching plainly for optics.
it is a good thing that words have no meaning anymore or else donnie would look pretty fucking stupid saying biden is to the left of bernie (who's supporters love president t btw)
Trump people have used the argument that changing leadership in an emergency would only make the pandemic worse, so it is certainly possible they can the head of the pandemic task force.
Um, speaking of words and meaning, you should probably read that tweet again
his all caps CRAZY BERNIE threw me off and i blacked out
in this scenario do pence and his people just go quietly? I’d imagine that pence wouldn’t want this and he has enough dirt to bury trump. This isn’t Brad paracale who is a nobody without trump. I think a normal politician in trouble like trump could do this but I just don’t see the upside for pence falling on the sword.
The only upside to an empty husk with no convictions like Kamala is that populist postions like M4A, CJ/Weed reform etc. are only going to be more popular in 4 years when almost nothing gets done about them so she will be forced to embrace them if she wants to be POTUS
Pence is destined for conservative TV or radio after this, there is no upside to him taking down Trump who is as popular as ever with Rs
Kamala's problem is she has waaaaay too many convictions. She prides herself on all her drug convictions
There's a lot of common sense in your reply on why he shouldn't which is exactly why he will. At any point has he done anything that wasn't for optics?
"up much higher in our internal polls" = he finally convinced someone to poll the boaters.
Further left than Bernie ever thought possible
Further left than Bernie
just piling on to lol @ tobias, learn to read my dude lmao lmbo lolwtf
that tweet is so easy to understand. Only a true moron would fail to grasp it.
Tobias you dumb son of a bitch
i very clearly said words don't matter anymore, you idiots
I suggest you whip everyone of their asses in a Publix parking lot.
Weed delayed is weed denied
Gotta love these people, a strong 25k votes
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I have questions about whether firm policy positions matter as much as rhetorical ability when you’re basically picking one or the other. I think Biden and Kamala are more interested in doing what people want, as opposed to taking a stand against progressive policy.
For that reason, Kamala would be my choice.
Pence is a schmuck. He'll tow the line like a good soldier. He doesn't have enough of a spine to make waves.
Welp, cross her off the list
Put me down for oppressing Scientology
You can only laugh at this point. Knowing our luck a week after we name Harris a leaked video of her advocating the internment of all black men will probably drop...
how did it take that long to get that part of the Bass story?
how old would BaeOC be?
I think she’s 29 now. So 33?
edit - shes 30. Still not old enough.
that’s the risk with someone who hasn’t been vetted fully
I've got no idea where Susan Rice stands on any particular issue within the general democratic range of policy ideas.
If Rice were the pick, I do think that republicans trying to attack her about Benghazi would be a massive mistake on their part. Same with the October surprise they got planned with the Durham report about Burisma. Talking about that warmed over shit amidst an out of control pandemic when people are suffering economically will only help Biden in my book.
Kamala series again
If Joe Biden weren't a thousand years old with a baked in belief that marijuana was the devil's lettuce, Biden could just pick Harris and put decriminalizing weed in the platform and most progressives would be happy as hell with that trade.
Goddamn old people and their foolishness.
Unfortunately, I feel the Biden camp thinks warren will overshadow him and provide a weak point in diamond joe’s armor. When in reality, Kamala would do worse. I do agree that Warren would do WORK in a progressive inspired democratic senate.
Taken by itself, seems like Rice would strengthen the ticket by virtue of serving in administrations that were normal and functional. She hasn't held office before like some past VPs, but she's served in DC politics for almost 30 years.
Warren as Senate majority leader, or AG would be better than her as Vice. Assuming Biden doesn't kick the bucket 100 days in.
Course democracy depends on RBG holding out 6 months so yolo
RBG kicking the bucket and Trump/Turtle getting another justice will merely prompt a Dem expansion of the SC, or some other form of limiting the damage that shit justices can do in the future
You have more faith in them than I do. Though, at that point, they'd have to realize that anything they passed would be overruled in the court and that would force their hand.
Even if she doesn't, if the dems don't have the senate mitch is going to pull the e brake and do absolutely nothing for 4 years
If the dems don't take the senate, Trump has been reelected. And we all better scrub our post history.
Google said i was fine
Edit: Actually Google corrected me. I was wrong
Certainly feels like Warren might have more influence over Joe than the Lincoln Project guys.
Idk is that actually a given? With Hillarys map + Pennsylvania and the great lakes states doesn't Joe win without the senate?