2020 Democratic Candidate Thread

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by NilesIrish, Mar 4, 2019.

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Who do you support

  1. Bernie Sanders

    18.8%
  2. Elizabeth Warren

    78.8%
  3. Kamala Harris

    1.3%
  4. Pete Buttigieg

    28.8%
  5. Corey Booker

    1.3%
  6. Beto O'Rourke

    1.3%
  7. Julian Casto

    1.3%
  8. Andrew Yang.

    8.8%
  9. Joe Biden

    2.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. dump

    dump #YangGang2020
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    nothing wrong with a dictatorship

    it just needs a good leader
     
  2. steamengine

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  3. steamengine

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  4. NilesIrish

    NilesIrish Not a master fisher but I know bait when I see it
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    He raked in 72k yesterday on $25 dollar tickets in Seattle and San Fran if crowd reporting is accurate.
     
  5. Goose

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    I think Pete would do a great job as DNC chairman
     
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  6. NilesIrish

    NilesIrish Not a master fisher but I know bait when I see it
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    They fucked up when they went Perez over him last cycle.
     
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  7. Goose

    Goose Hi
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    Agreed

    Everyone was hell bent on a minority
     
  8. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
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    Pete didn't have a shot, he knew that and was using it to build up his name, it was Ellison or Perez with the progressive wing behind Ellison and the establishment behind Perez.
     
  9. Goose

    Goose Hi
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  10. dump

    dump #YangGang2020
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    woooooo more centrists at the DNC!!!
     
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  11. dump

    dump #YangGang2020
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    cliffs: Ohio is dumb
     
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  12. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    also breaking: no candidate beats Trump in Alabama
     
  13. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
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    Silver and Cohn both critiquing this poll since its built on Trumps approval being largely negative which doesn't fit with what real election results have shown in '16 and '18 for Ohio.

    but Biden and often Bernie in head to heads come out the best (old whitesssssss)
     
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  14. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    Biden is also up 15% in Ohio. Nothing about this is shocking.
     
  15. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
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    You don't say...

    Now do Michigan (and Wisconsin and Minnesota)
     
  16. Goose

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    Guys just sharing something I saw on twitter. No need to get all up in arms
     
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  17. PeterGriffin

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    Honestly, the rest of the results aren't super great for Trump. Every other candidate they polled (and even third-tier Booker) is either even or only -1 to Trump. I thought OH was blood red.
     
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  18. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    an e-mail I got this AM:

    I’ll be honest with you right now: I’m worried.

    During the last Democratic debate, Kamala broke through the noise, and the energy we felt afterward was electric. We rose in the polls nationwide -- including in critical states like Iowa, New Hampshire, and California -- and together we raised $2 million in the 24 hours after the debate.

    But our fundraising has slowed down since then -- and I’m worried about our momentum.

    We’ve set a goal of raising $500,000 online before Kamala sets foot on the debate stage next Wednesday. No matter what happens, we can’t afford to fall short. Can you add another gift to our campaign right now to boost our fundraising before we head into the second debate?
     
  19. Bo Pelinis

    Bo Pelinis WE GO HARD ON EARTH
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    This is me being optimistic but Trump's a real big piece of shit dummy and he barely won the Presidency in 2016 because of the electoral college whilst losing the popular vote to somebody that wasn't well liked by a good portion of Americans.
     
  20. Tobias

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  21. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
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    You neglect all the socialisms to be committed by Generic D
     
  22. PeterGriffin

    PeterGriffin Iced and/or sweet tea is for dirty rednecks.
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    Trump did pretty much what I did on Monday night playing Monopoly on PS4 with my friends across the country. My oldest friend had everything from Park Place to St James Place (minus the railroads that I owned) with houses/hotels on most of that. I only had the reds and yellows with a couple of houses on them and I ducked and dodged through half an hour of rolls, and every time I landed on a Chance/Community Chest, it sent me to jail rather than to Boardwalk. And I won. It was literally a miracle. That's what Trump did in 2016.
     
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  23. Bo Pelinis

    Bo Pelinis WE GO HARD ON EARTH
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    I really really really don't want to make the same mistake as 2016 and actually put faith in the American public but a tiny portion of me still remembers that his win was pretty much a fluke and that perhaps maybe possibly it won't be as easy of a reelection in 2020 as a lot of people seem to think/are despondent about.
     
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  24. herb.burdette

    herb.burdette Meet me at the corner of 8th and Worthington
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    Don’t worry Goose I’m here to talk about Ohio with you.
     
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  25. herb.burdette

    herb.burdette Meet me at the corner of 8th and Worthington
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    Ohio has seen a 2-4% spread between R and D in the four Presidential elections from 2000-2012. It went to 8% in 2016, which is the largest spread since 11% in 1988.

    I’m required to tell you Ohio has voted the winner in the last 14 straight presential elections.

    Everyone here likes to freak out about that 8% because the 2018 midterms didn’t yield any flips in Ohio’s grossly gerrymandered districts, which have a 12-4 R advantage despite only a 4% difference in R/D aggregate votes in all 2018 congressional races. The D races were blowouts. The overall vote was 4%.

    The Rs also won all four statewide offices in 2018, but the spread in each of those races was between 2-4%.

    Based upon this 2-4% spread, this board views Ohio like Mississippi.
     
  26. Bo Pelinis

    Bo Pelinis WE GO HARD ON EARTH
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    Wait Ohio isn't Mississippi I thought they were the same ha burn I'm burning you here
     
  27. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    Obviously, I could be very wrong.

    I assume it will be very close.

    But I assume that the last map went pretty awfully for Democrats and that returning a few states to blue (PA, Michigan) and/or getting a few unexpected flips like NC/Iowa lead to a win. Just need the right candidate to run a fairly solid campaign on the issues and work his/her ass off
     
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  28. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    getting the Ohio posters mad about Ohio has been a pleasant joy in this otherwise awful year
     
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  29. herb.burdette

    herb.burdette Meet me at the corner of 8th and Worthington
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    There is only one Ohio poster here. You can respond directly if you like.
     
  30. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    I was talking about Goose, herb.

    stop being so self-centered
     
  31. herb.burdette

    herb.burdette Meet me at the corner of 8th and Worthington
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    Just posting the actual Quinnipiac numbers referenced in your article:

    All Ohio (bro)

    Biden +8 Trump
    Warren -1 Trump
    Sanders -1 Trump
    Harris even Trump
    Buttigieg even Trump
    Booker -1 Trump

    Overall Ohio nomination:

    Biden 31
    Sanders 14
    Harris 14
    Warren 13
    Buttigieg 6
     
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  32. Goose

    Goose Hi
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    Wasn’t aware I was upset
     
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  33. BWC

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    <3

    This is a bit much, don't ya think?
     
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  34. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
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    Added an extra turn to the screw with some more precision
     
  35. Goose

    Goose Hi
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    Who are you liking out of this group, herb?
     
  36. Fran Tarkenton

    Fran Tarkenton Well-Known Member
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    I dont view it like Mississippi, but I do view it like Montana (which has a Dem Governor and Dem Senator).
     
  37. herb.burdette

    herb.burdette Meet me at the corner of 8th and Worthington
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    None of them

    Buttigieg if I voted today, but I don’t think he can beat Trump. Not excited at all about Biden, but I think he has the best shot to beat Trump.

    Watching Harris to see how she handles this debate. This is her chance to make up ground.
     
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  38. Goose

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    This is exactly where I’m at. Long time until the primary so I’m expecting the choice will be easy by then

    Nobody has earned my well sought after donation yet
     
  39. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    picking a candidate using this logic is just awful. Not only does that not energize the base, you have no idea whether someone can or cannot win an election. Being from Ohio and hanging around right-leaning 45 year olds does not give you an enhanced knowledge of what beats Trump. And want Ohioans want is not necessarily what the rest of the electorate wants.
     
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  40. Goose

    Goose Hi
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    Sorry
     
  41. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    No need to apologize. You've been an awful poster for a near decade. It is herb that is disappointing.
     
  42. Goose

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    I think you guys need to get a little less worked up about all of this
     
  43. herb.burdette

    herb.burdette Meet me at the corner of 8th and Worthington
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    I tend to think that shrieking about impeachment for another four years is awful. I would rather win with a good candidate than lose with a perfect one.

    No matter who it is, I’m voting D. I want to see the candidate most capable of beating Trump.

    I don’t see the House flipping in 2020. I think there is a very real chance the Senate flips.

    If you want to see real change, that’s what we need. We need a 2008-2010 window again.
     
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  44. BWC

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    Would you rather win Ohio with a good candidate or the Presidency with a better candidate?
     
  45. herb.burdette

    herb.burdette Meet me at the corner of 8th and Worthington
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    Why don’t you try harder to avoid going off the rails with personal attacks every time someone disagrees with you?
     
  46. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    literally no one suggested that



    which is something you are assuming. You think the electorate wants some middle of the road candidate who can win the rust belt without risking getting called a Socialist at every turn. Yet you have no idea how that alters the big cities in MI and PA, or NC, or Iowa, or Arizona.


    if you think the Senate might flip, then you need an energizing candidate who can get the vote out in states like Colorado, Maine, etc.. and not pander to the rust belt's old and white electorate
     
  47. Goose

    Goose Hi
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    Bro got his first real job about a year ago. Take it easy on him. He’ll grow up one day

    It was just a few years ago he was ratting out TMB for posting info that was behind a paywall
     
  48. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    winning Ohio amounts to winning the Presidency, duh. Have you not seen the stat about 1960!
     
  49. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
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    so you've had a "real job" for years and still post like Farva in 2010?
     
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