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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by teel, Jul 23, 2020.
Really thought we might pull that out even though we had no business winning that one tonight
Just glad to be leaving SD with the nl west lead, regardless of tomorrow
Senzatela had a CG for the Rockies tonight. Only 3 Ks but got 14 groundball outs. Watching the A's without Chapman gives a totally different feeling
Lol Fletcher loves swinging at pitches at eye level
Guess he had to with Simmons getting a bad jump
16 team playoffs long term. Just such a dumb idea.
This is absolutely disgusting. How in the fuck?
You’re more sensible than dbl. Sit down, relax, Cornelius talks about a lot of players ITT.
This 16 team playoff as a permanent thing is so fucking stupid. Of course owners would be for it, but that’s an awful reason to implement it. It’s fine for this season bc of how weird everything is and how short the regular season is. But fuck that for a 162 game season
I can’t wait to watch the M’s miss the 16 team playoffs!
But seriously, how long is this shit going to take? Are we signing up for November games every year with this now?
I’m all for more baseball and player movement. I’m also positive the way the implement it will be flawless.
Hard pass on 16 team playoff
So happy to be baseball’s last legitimate champion
MLBPA is our only hope to stop this.
So Manfred never alerted teams there wouldn't be off days for the division and championship series? What a fuck up
Feels like baseball would want to spread these games out over Wednesday to Sunday but baseball is fucking stupid. They will probably have every game start at the same time and black out 90% of the country from watching
So... we shouldnt be hopeful
No off days is extreme but I prefer that to so many off days that teams can go from a 5 man rotation for 162 games to a 3 man rotation and starters in the pen for the playoffs. Not notifying teams of that in advance is ridiculous though. Its a huge change and teams should have been able to prepare.
Not that much longer, really. All it would do is replace the WC games with eight best of 3 series. That's maybe adding one day to postseason schedule.
They didn't have an agreement for the bubble, yet. I guess you can say that's on Manfred, but if there wasn't a bubble they would still have travel days. Not really a point in travel days in a playoff series if no one is traveling (although they are doing that in the WS for some reason).
players better fight tooth and nail for concessions in free agency and arbitration if a 16 team playoff is on the table long term, that will be a giant, massive, drag on salaries.
Better negotiate a bigger piece of that playoff TV money, too.
honestly I’m wondering if this is even a net revenue-positive move. It’s just dumb.
The reporting has been "more elimination games = more money in TV deals". So, if doing this means they negotiate more TV deals while also keeping fan engagement up for teams in the middle, that's probably a win.
Of course, that kind of goes up in flames if/when your World Series rates a 5.0 because no one wanted to watch 83-79 Cincinatti play 85-77 Toronto.
Owners care about more money from expanded playoffs
Right, but aren’t they also running a huge risk of deflating regular season TV contracts? Maybe more teams in contention adds to gate revenue?
more teams in contention means more RSNs with good ratings too, I'd imagine.
might help September numbers, but I have to think it would be an anchor on May-July
maybe, but I think a lot of fans are willing to watch until their team is out of it.
Why would people be less likely to watch in May-July because of expanded playoffs? I guess I don't see that logic.
You’ll keep the people who watch baseball because they always watch baseball, you’ll keep the gamblers, but what’s the return for the casual fan? It’s exacerbating complaints people already make about the length of the regular season and the lack of import of any game.
I’d probably need some comparison data between regular season college football/the CFP and regular season college basketball/March Madness to better make my point.
I don't know the data on the prime time games for ESPN and FOX on Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday, but everything I've seen is those casual fans are already not watching those games, and I would think there's a decent chance the casual fans who are watching would continue to watch for the reason they do now: there's nothing else on TV in May-August.
I get what you're saying now. I just think it applies more to the overall interest in sport in terms of regular season storylines on a national scale than it does to TV ratings for games that already don't seem like they rate very well compared to other pro sports in the regular season.
I mean, ESPN has basically given up covering baseball for the most part on TV. They still air games during the week, but BBTN went from being huge to being over once MLBN came around. Their radio people openly say on the air (or at least they did several years ago) that their bosses tell them not to talk about baseball because no one listens to it. And that's when MLB had the smallest number of playoff teams.
National baseball during the regular season is basically non-existent in the sports landscape outside of MLBN and a couple highlight segments in the C/D blocks of SVP's SC show.
yeah, it's become hyper-regional which was kind of my point about the RSNs.
Graterol is such a joy to watch
i thought dustin may was starting today?
2019 NL MVP rocking a .699 OPS
i can't believe you would ruin bro's afternoon with a personal attack like this you monster
DBL was at this game in 2005
i had forgot about that hilarious lie
If he were providing some value playing good defense in the OF it'd be one thing. A MLB 1B with a .695 OPS though, woof