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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by teel, Jul 23, 2020.
he never had a committable offer
Who exactly is pursuing JT? Phillies owner said they lost a billion dollars last yr so couldn’t be them
I have no clue what the chances are of this lawsuit working, but the shit storm that would come if the league recoups its losses while crying poor this entire offseason would be incredible.
MLBPA would love for this case to go forward
This is the dorkiest thing I've ever said in my life, but I'd love to read their insurance policy. I would be surprised if a global pandemic was a covered event, unless it was specifically named in a force majeure clause.
I also wonder what will happen if the teams end up reaching a confidential settlement.
Do the terms of the collective bargaining agreement require disclosure of something like that? Lots of really interesting questions.
I have to admit I don't visit very often since the majority of the subjects of this piece left
This is neat.
I still go to Fangraphs constantly. I rarely read the articles, but I go to Fangraphs any time I want to look up any stats on pretty much anyone who ever gets traded. I just don't like the Baseball-Reference site and hate how they do their leader boards and stuff. And ESPN has completely destroyed their player profile pages in pretty much every sport over the years so I never even think about going there any more.
The number of talented writers they've lost over the years is remarkable. Story didn't even get into guys like Mike Petriello, who runs MLB's StatCast stuff with Tango now. Or people like Eno Sarris, who left for The Athletic.
fangraphs has the best UI by far
I got a membership back in the spring when they started publicizing the struggles that article talked about, and given the amount of time I spend on there I'm happy just for the lack of ads I no longer have to deal with that slowed the site down significantly.
It's from a few years ago but this former Japanese player tried to hit a 186 mph fastball. Can't imagine it would've gone well if he'd somehow timed it right and connected.
This Philly GM thing is confusing and weird. I can't tell if they're actually looking at some of these guys, or if they're just wasting time without a GM as an excuse so they don't have to spend anything before punting until next winter.
I probably consume Eno and Petriello most now for baseball content (aside from the Rosenthal type stuff). I'm with you in that I end up there mostly for reference/leaderboards. I probably should pay more attention to the Fantasy section there but the Rates and Barrels pod on Athletic is about all I do.
I think the guy they are hiring will be a Prez role to replace McPhail who will then hire his own GM next year when Klentak’s contract ends.
Why is my Twitter feed weird potential Phillies trades?
Y’all blowing this up #Philadelphia Phillies ?
If the reports over the last few weeks are true, seems like COVID really punished Philly and Cincinnati for issues they had coming out of their rebuilds. Both orgs failed to get enough out of their systems and jumped deep into the pool in FA and trades for big names to help them compete, and now it seems like they have no money and/or need to dump a lot of the salaries they added in order to do other stuff.
Cincinnati, especially, kind of feels like a train wreck right now if they're really shopping Sonny to this degree after spending that $$ in FA last winter, and almost certainly losing Bauer this winter.
Yea the Reds are in bad shape. Best case is they want to trade Gray for money to spend on a SS because there is nothing in the system. Garcia never played about A til debuting last year.
They believe they have pitching depth to overcome Gray loss. No chance on that after losing Bauer and Gray.
Completely agree on rebuild mess up. They waited to long because they wanted to be competitive for the All Star game the hosted and kept cueto, Bruce and Frazier way to long.
seems like John Middleton just decided he doesn’t need to spend money to make money.
That weird deal with the Dodgers where they traded Downs and Gray to save money off Homer Bailey's deal was bizarre and backfired, as well.
Just a lot of weird deals that ultimately would have made it harder for them to compete long term even if COVID wasn't a factor. Now you throw that into the mix and it seems like it just completely shrunk (if not closed) that window.
The Phillies Owner is a cheapskate and apparently doesn’t like spending money.
He needs to sell the team if all the reports are true, especially after firing 80 employees before thanksgiving
Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that COVID is the only thing stopping them from spending. Clearly there's other stuff going on there with ownership.
Could kind of see this coming a few years ago with Philly, unfortunately. Dan O'Dowd talked a lot about it two years ago when they were in on Machado and Harper, and how they were basically forced to do it because the rebuild just didn't get them enough difference makers.
enjoyed this read. some bad luck for sure
As a Tigers' fan, I watched us follow the Phillies as the expensive team that ran into a brick wall trying to compete earlier this decade, and I'm generally convinced we're following them again in the rebuilding problems department.
Thank god, I can enjoy baseball again!
You find a different team than the Pirates?
i was getting nervous about how i would spin a braves title knowing it came in a meme season. thank god we didnt waste our one title this century on a gimmick set up. crisis averted
baseball is back
Our roster was built on using a pitcher in the 9 spot, tough to say how good we actually were last season
Oh wow, I can’t wait to watch more sacrifice bunts and three-pitch strikeouts! Thrilling!
as a fan of a team that has 73 great hitters on its roster, this displeases me
This is a bad decision
Manfred actually made a good decision?? I'm shocked!
No universal DH would be another bad sign for where we're headed, even if you hate the DH. The players clearly want it. The league (Manfred, especially) wants it. But they'll ignore that and go back to the status quo because they're incapable of coming to an agreement even on things they actually agree about.
i am hearing from my sources that the players are pushing for the abolition of the DH in the american league too
Players, Commish and Fans universally love the idea of DH for both leagues... and yet here we are.
I miss the winter meetings. I'm assuming the at home version we're getting this week is going to lead to nothing but a Rule 5 draft at the of the week. Last year we got Cole, Rendon and Strasburg deals during the meetings.
A second rebuild in the works?
Owners changing course out of nowhere tends to end very poorly for organizations no matter where they are on the win curve.
complete salary dump.
The player to be named later is trout
Or buy dumping Iglesias we don’t need to dump Gray
RIP Dick Allen
Joel Sherman is on tv just an obscene amount, what did we do to deserve this
I like Sherman the most of the insider types, although that's not always saying much.
I used to like him more until he spent the last year pronouncing Fernando Tatis Jr.'s last name "Tatee," which just confuses the hell out of me. He's the only person I've ever heard pronounce it like that. Has no one at the network ever correct him?
Maybe it’s a speech impediment