I apologize if this was posted here, but I saw a tweet last night referencing that in the NFL a $60 million contract only guarantees a player like $15 million, only in MLB does a player sign a $39 million contract that guarantees the player $54 million
RELIEVERS 1) Liam Hendriks, free agent (Last year: 4) 2) Drew Pomeranz, SD (Not ranked) 3) Devin Williams, MIL (NR) 4) Nick Anderson, TB (NR) 5) James Karinchak, CLE (NR) 6) Brad Hand, free agent (NR) 7) Aroldis Chapman, NYY (2) 8) Aaron Bummer, CWS (NR) 9) Tyler Duffey, MIN (NR) 10) Josh Hader, MIL (3)
Belief now that White Sox have a log jam of depth type AAAA players might see some trades here to get some 40 man relief shortly
Still can't believe no one claimed Hand. Especially when the White Sox gave Hendriks all that money a few months later.
One of our fan sites dig a deep dive on Hand vs Hendriks- it was kind of eye opening. Hand had like .75 era vs 29 teams and like a 7 era vs the White Sox. Everyone says “declining” peripherals with Hand but he’s been rock solid, really weird no one took him for 10 million on a one year deal
I'm a huge Benintendi fan and what he's capable of being and would love the Tigers to trade for him, but Avila doesn't have that kind of move in him. I have no clue how to value him coming off the last 1.5 years. Trading him at an all-time low point seems dumb to me, though.
man, realmuto is going to get paid so much drop off after him is steep CATCHERS 1) J.T. Realmuto, free agent (Last year: 2) 2) Yasmani Grandal, CWS (1) 3) Will Smith, LAD (Not ranked) 4) Willson Contreras, CHC (3) 5) Sean Murphy, OAK (NR) 6) Austin Nola, SD (NR) 7) Salvador Perez, KC (NR) 8) Travis d'Arnaud, ATL (NR) 9) Mitch Garver, MIN (4) 10) James McCann, NYM (NR)
Yeah agree. Only deal that has been floated is this one by a Sox reporter: Would fit with Dombrowski’s MO.
White Sox have been talking to Nelson Cruz about DH sure why not a 40 yr old DH to fix this problem? I’d like to pass
Depending on the arm, I'd do that if I'm Philly. If they're trying to win but the owner won't open up the checkbook to do it, Benintendi is a pretty significant upside play that might be the difference between a WC or out of the playoffs. I'm not that high on Moniak, either, but who knows with any prospect we basically haven't seen for 18 months. The Dombrowski moves to this point trying to find bullpen help have been weird, though, and those feel more like the bad version of "vintage Dombrowski" stuff than this would be.
Yeah I meant dealing from 'named' prospects who he has a pretty good track record of selling high relatively.
Good call on that. I get a little defensive about Dombrowski's rep on some level because I think the "he trades all prospects" thing in the media is a little overblown and unfair. He can get a little overboard and overpay at times, but generally speaking the deals that get him in trouble seem to be more along the lines of the bullpen moves he's making now rather than trading for guys who have been 3+ win players. His record on those kinds of deals is pretty fucking good considering how long he's been doing this.
CENTER FIELDERS 1) Mike Trout, LAA (Last year: 1) 2) Cody Bellinger, LAD (2) 3) George Springer, free agent (3) 4) Alex Verdugo, BOS (not ranked) 5) Brandon Nimmo, NYM (9) 6) Kyle Lewis, SEA (NR) 7) Ramón Laureano, OAK (4) 8) Trent Grisham, SD (NR) 9) Starling Marte, MIA (6) 10) Byron Buxton, MIN (NR)
Do you mean combined for all those season, or 3 million each season? EDIT: I initially thought 3 million was a way too high # but checked the record book and they drew 2.9 million in '06, so ignore.
each season, 3 million was probably high. But 2.5 shouldn’t be an issue when you factor: massive rebound in Chicago tourism Interest in attending events by even casual fans post pandemic First place team, maybe even best in baseball Young fun players Starved fanbase Cubs in full rebuild Still relatively cheap to go to White Sox games compared to other major market teams fans should roll in, if they don’t the Sox have extreme marketing/ticketing issues
I think it'll take a while for people start doing a lot of large crowds. I don't think most will be running out to get into a large crowd right away.
You have to factor in the economy too. A lot of people that used to go to a few games a year now can't afford it.
We’re averaging 250,000 cases a day over the last week. Some people will be dissuaded, many many others will lick a turnstile to be in a crowd again.
Yeah, i think 2.5 million per season is a perfectly reasonable goal based on history, and we could see an even higher # in '22 depending on how much of a post-pandemic bump there is from starved baseball fans. Furthermore, if the Sox actually win the WS one of these seasons they could potentially hit 3 million the season after (the WS would drive ticket sales for the next season). But otherwise 3 million plus probably isn't realistic, even for all the reasons mentioned in your post.
man it’s seems like when I talk to people they cannot wait to be back to normal and would rush out to these types of events
Right, but there are also many people who haven't been economically impacted by the pandemic who have been saving money during this time so perhaps they attend more games than they otherwise would when full attendance is allowed again.
The demographics of the area should help the Sox too compared to 15 years ago. The South Loop has been built up a ton and so has Bridgeport for that matter. Back then the dust was still settling from the Robert Taylor Homes coming down
the gig, service, and tourism industries have been gutted- when I think core baseball fans I’m not sure what percentage those make up but I feel like it’s not high, not sure it’s even a decent size percentage of casual fans
I'm not sure either. One thing to note for the Sox is that Guaranteed Rate Field has a pretty diverse crowd (at least by baseball standards based on my observations from attending games at other parks) and since POC have been disproportionately impacted by the pandemic maybe that will have a negative impact on attendance that could limit any post-pandemic attendance bump.
I like it. In the before time it was nice to decide to shoot down the red line and go to a baseball game last minute w some friends
being able to get into a major-league ballpark for $7 and sit mostly wherever you want is one of life's simple pleasures that will be lost now that the team is out of the rebuild.
Rosentthal reported the Mets were close to signing Brad Hand to a 2-year deal, and then all the other insiders slapped him and said they were talking but a deal isn't close so he had to retract. Oops.