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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by teel, Jul 23, 2020.
the albies deal is so much worse tbh
They’re both horrendous
surprised the union signed off on it. they were bad at the time and keep getting worse
Preller is a lot of fun. And he's cute too. Big fan
Luis Robert’s is pretty awful too
Tatis' deal being 14 years kind of makes whatever the new CBA brings irrelevant, but I wonder what some of these extensions for players in their first 1-2 years will look like if there are significant changes to the arb system.
The most obvious and easy way to get more money for players in the current system is to do away with the 40/60/80 rule in arb and get them closer to their full value in years 4-6 of team control. I doubt the league will ever permit that, but it's obvious that's what should happen (on top of simplifying service time and eliminating the super 2/6 year clock as currently constructed). If that ever happens, the impetus for these deals and the discounts players give long term for buying them out of that goes away, and some of the deals made (especially the Robert/Jimenez/Acuna/Albies kind) would look much worse in hindsight.
Yeah. I know the Braves are poor, and it's good for the franchise but I feel really bad for him. Freeman got 8/135 after his 3rd season and Ron got 10/100 after his second... And the last fucking two years are team options
thoughts and prayers to the city of buffalo. absolutely devastating news for that city
Wonder if these long mega deals are the gonna be addressed in the cba or cause issues down the line. Eventually a few of them are gonna be stinkers.
That’s what screwed over the NHL. Too many career length contracts for players that didn’t live up to the value.
I can't see that ever happening unless the PA agrees to a cap, and I don't think that's ever happening at this point.
Bobby Bonilla and Fernando Tatis contact will both be up in 2035
Seems like there was a time when the smart organizations were the ones who didn't pay for bullpen arms. Now the A's are giving Trevor Rosenthal $11M for one year and I'm confused.
getting Rosenthal for one year is a great move for the As. Can always pay for a reliever if he is coming off the books the following year.
its as impressive as it is totally expected
If you're the A's, $11M a lot of money. And if I'm spending that kind of money in that market, even on a one-year deal, Rosenthal is such a wild card that I'm looking elsewhere.
Fernando Tatis Jr. will not get the entire $340 million.
Taxes will cut into his new 14-year agreement with the Padres, of course. But Tatis also must pay off a previous obligation, a deal he made during the 2017-18 offseason, when he was turning 19 years old and preparing for his first full season at Double A.
It was then that Tatis entered into a contract with Big League Advance (BLA), a company that offers select minor leaguers upfront payments in exchange for a percentage of their future earnings in Major League Baseball. Neither Tatis nor BLA has revealed the exact percentage he owes the company.
The company’s president and CEO, former major-league pitcher Michael Schwimer, told The Athletic in April 2018 that BLA uses a proprietary algorithm to value every player in the minors. Players who receive offers can accept a base-level payout in return for 1 percent of their earnings, with the chance to receive greater incremental payouts and pay back a maximum of 10 percent. If a player never reaches the majors, he keeps the cash advance, with no obligation to pay it back.
As the company explains on its website, “Players choose what percentage of their future career earnings they want to give Big League Advance. For example, BLA may offer a player $50,000 for every 1 percent of his future professional earnings. If players wanted to sign a deal for 5 percent, he would receive $250,000, or if he wanted to sign a deal for 10 percent, he would receive $500,000.”
If Tatis, 22, chose 10 percent, he would owe the company $34 million over the course of his contract; if he chose 5 percent, the number would be $17 million. He said after signing with BLA that he wanted to hire a personal trainer, eat better food and get a better apartment. He used the money to upgrade not only his training regimen in the U.S., but also his offseason practice field in his native Dominican Republic.
The Major League Baseball Players Association, however, made it clear in a January 2016 memo to player agents that it did not approve of BLA. The memo said the union “categorically” did not endorse or approve of BLA and its products and warned the future earnings the company sought from players were “significant.”
Schwimer, in contrast, believes he is providing a service to minor leaguers while they are still underpaid. He called Tatis’ decision to accept the third-largest contract in baseball history after appearing in only 143 major-league games a “big win for all parties involved.”
Tatis, the son of former major-leaguer Fernando Tatis, signed with the Chicago White Sox for $700,000 in July 2015, then was sent to the Padres as part of the James Shields trade in June 2016. Prior to agreeing to his extension, he had earned less than $800,000 in the majors, including his pro-rated pay in the 60-game 2020 season.
“One of the scariest things I did was make Fernando Tatis Jr. an offer,” Schwimer said. “At the time we made him an offer, he was in A ball. He wasn’t a top-40 prospect on anybody’s list (in 2017).
“The baseball market showed what they thought of him. He was traded for James Shields. Twenty-nine teams couldn’t do better than James Shields. And I’m looking at my model, and we’ve got this as the second-best player to come out in baseball in the last 15 years, including Mike Trout, Bryce Harper. And we’re going to offer this kid an insane, gigantic amount of money, a very large portion of our portfolio. It was scary, for a guy in A ball. But we trusted the model, trusted the process. It’s great that it’s proving out.”
Tatis, when interviewed by The Athletic in 2018, said he was “not afraid” his deal with BLA might cost him a considerable chunk of his future earnings.
“If I’m a successful player and make big money, I’m not going to care about giving that money away,” he said. “That will be nothing if I make all that big money.”
That big money is coming his way now, and BLA will get its share, too.
Maybe I should quit bitching
let's be nice
their top ten was....
6: Tatis Jr
It makes sense for them to play 80 games and figure out what they need. They have the ammo to improve and are good enough to at worst be competitive with the Twins
Is there a consensus to how this is all going to go or is it all going to depend locally?
Everything I've seen is local rules will dictate
So many awesome players in this era, and many of them are really young.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see 50% attendance at some parks to start
I can’t fucking wait to go to a game this year
WSJ had a similar article today. They say it's 10%. So after this and taxes, he'll make about $140 mil
Still a whole lot of money but damn that really really sucks
Oh for sure. I think prior to the money advance he was projected to make $169 million of the $340
acuna doesnt have to pay nearly as much money in taxes as tatis will have to. sounds like his deal was a success. find a new slant
Taijuan Walker got 2/$20M from the Mets. Good for him to get that second year.
teel Your boy Pete Alonzo is on an episode of MeatEater this season.
As a meat eater yourself, thanks for the notice bud
The host said ‘I usually don’t hang out w people that fist bump, but I’m glad I made an exception for you”
Big fan of Rinella despite never having gone hunting in my life.
He's the sole the reason why I have gone hunting. Never had any interest until I heard him on Joe Rogan (when it wasnt all awful) and read his book
Congrats on having no fans all year
I'm as covid conscious as anyone I know, but man do I want to go to a game at Coors ASAP. Space it the fuck out, police it heavily. Just let me go watch some dingers and NL West action.
This made me smile.
Cressey works with all the top New England kids
dude I’m dying for baseball, I’m going to be chilling at Tuesday night Reds/Pirates game first chance
Beer, nachos, dog, LFG