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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jack Parkman, Apr 29, 2019.
Lol classic heesu
Chase young needs to do this, then I’ll buy in
Only a former 5* senior
Think JK Dobbins will have a monster year but no clue how you can have him as RB1 after last year, he wasn't good
So how's the top of the draft looking?
Reich and your OL is too good to tank
this isnt a Suck for Luck roster
You mean being completely turned loose by a shitty Michigan ol? He will get his shot
When we gonna fire up the 2021 draft thread? Looking forward to the Trevor Lawrence not going #1 overall takes
After the 2020 draft....DUH
agree. About as realistic as taking Burrow over Tua
Burrow over Tua is a no brainer at this point. He does everything Tua does but does it better.
Nobody does that better than Mr. Checkdown himself, amirite?
there is no way that burrow is more talented at throwing checkdowns than checkdown tua. its like saying a poster is more talented at the art of shit posting than congressman. impossible feat
Imagine wanting Dwayne Haskins and Justin Fields over Joe Burrow lmao idiots
That doesn’t stop Boo MFer! from trying though!
What can I say, I’m good at my craft.
Maybe not everything
Hey you wouldn't have beaten Georgia if we didn't take Justin Fields
His sideline to sideline speed was ridiculous in that Texas game.
it’s amazing what a little coaching can do
I think we can cover fake punts just fine, buddy
He might, but he’s standing behind a wall
Would love to see a Chase Young/Penei Sewell matchup in the playoffs
where we get our asses kicked, again
Sewell is worthy of number 1 overall pick this year or next. He is that Ogden, Roaf level of prospect
To be this good as a true sophomore who missed half of his true freshman season is pretty amazing (he was their highest graded true freshman OL ever as well).
Herbert is gonna get someone fired
Klatt was on local radio today & pretty much said Herbert will win a Super Bowl. Equated him to Brad Johnson
The hell kind of compliment is that?
“I project that he will be a below average QB that only succeeds if he is on an all-time defense.”
You should probably take a closer look at BJ’s stats around that time frame.
Ive seen them, point stands
Considering other high Oregon QB draft picks, Akili, Joey, MM...this should be a win for you guys
herbert is gonna get someone killed
It's too bad the Skins drafted a QB last year
2019 and we get an Akili Smith reference and it wasn’t even in a Bengals thread.
I thought kellen Clemens would be good. Hard to believe in an Oregon qb after that tragedy
Kiper's 2020 NFL draft Big Board and position rankings: How good is this QB class?
1. Chase Young, DE, Ohio State*
HT: 6-foot-5 | WT: 265 | Previously: 2
Todd McShay and I discussed Young after his last game, when he had four sacks and two forced fumbles against Wisconsin. With 13.5 sacks and five forced fumbles, Young has proved he is the best pass-rusher in the 2020 class, and it's not close at this point. His numbers don't show his full dominance. Just watch the tape from Ohio State's big win over Miami (Ohio), in which he had two strip sacks and the RedHawks' offensive tackles had no chance to stop him. The NFL loves twitchy edge rushers who can get after quarterbacks, and that's Young. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go off the board first in April. He caught my eye as a true freshman in 2017, and he really came on last season, picking up the production with Nick Bosa sidelined. Young finished with 9.5 sacks and 14.5 total tackles for loss in 2018.
2. Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama*
HT: 6-foot-1 | WT: 218 | Previously: 1
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Are we going to see Tagovailoa against LSU this weekend? The lefty had surgery to repair a high ankle sprain on Oct. 20, and Nick Saban says he's a game-time decision. I'd really like to see how Tagovailoa plays against a stellar Tigers secondary, but his long-term health is important too. He is completing 74.7% of his passes -- up from 69% last season -- with 27 touchdowns and just two interceptions. He's averaging 11.2 yards per attempt, and his 95.8 Total QBR ranks first in the FBS. He has been tremendous and even more efficient than in his stellar 2018. Tagovailoa has elite accuracy and great footwork, and his arm strength looks improved in his second season as the full-time starter.
3. Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama*
HT: 6-foot-1 | WT: 192 | Previously: 3
Jeudy is a special talent, a true No. 1 receiver the minute he gets drafted. Just watch him run past the Arkansas secondary for one of his two touchdowns from the Crimson Tide's last game. He's unguardable at the college level. Jeudy is up to 52 catches for 682 yards and eight touchdowns this season. I said in May that he's the most talented receiver to enter the NFL since the duo of Julio Jones and A.J. Green went in Round 1 in 2011. Jeudy can run every route and has elite ball skills, and he runs by SEC defensive backs every week. He's the best wideout in what could be a special 2020 class.
4. Jeff Okudah, CB, Ohio State*
HT: 6-foot-1 | WT: 200 | Previously: 4
Credit McShay here -- he had Okudah at No. 4 overall in his preseason rankings. When I went back through the 2018 tape, I saw why Todd was so fired up. This is a potential top-five pick with a high ceiling based on talent alone. The problem? Okudah hadn't picked off a single pass in his two seasons for the Buckeyes. He has three interceptions this season, though, including two picks in the blowout of Nebraska. While Young gets all of the attention for the Ohio State defense, Okudah is a true shutdown corner in the secondary.
5. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
HT: 6-foot-6 | WT: 237 | Previously: 6
As I wrote in May, Herbert just looks like a potential No. 1 pick -- great size, a powerful arm to make every throw, limited interceptions, good athleticism. Yet he took a step back in consistency in 2018, and that's why I thought he made a good decision to return to Oregon for his senior season. What I wanted to see this season was improved accuracy, better decision-making and him going through his reads to find open passers. So far, so good for Herbert, who has completed 69.4% of his passes with 24 touchdowns and two interceptions. He got off to a slow start in the win over USC, but he finished strong, completing all 10 of his throws off play-action for 128 yards and three touchdowns. That's the improvement in efficiency that I wanted to see.
6. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
HT: 6-foot-3 | WT: 215 | Previously: 14
McShay and I wrote about Burrow's rise a few weeks ago -- he has been so improved. With 30 touchdown passes and four interceptions, he doesn't look like the same guy from last season. He leads the country in completion percentage at 78.6%. With a great release, much better accuracy at all levels of the field and enough athleticism to maneuver the pocket to evade rushers, Burrow reminds me of Tony Romo. Coaches rave about his leadership and toughness too. I said a few weeks ago that Burrow is playing like a top-15 pick, but he keeps rising, and people I've talked to are extremely impressed. I can't wait to see how he plays against Alabama on Saturday.
7. Isaiah Simmons, OLB, Clemson*
HT: 6-foot-4 | WT: 225 | Previously: 7
A converted safety who had 89 tackles and 9.5 tackles for loss last season, Simmons is exactly what NFL teams look for in three-down linebackers in today's game. He has the size and speed to run sideline to sideline to chase down tailbacks, and he has the athletic ability to cover tight ends in the slot. He could even flip his hips and play some safety. Simmons is a combo player in the mold of Keanu Neal. He has 64 tackles, 6 sacks, 1 interception and 11.5 total tackles for loss this season.
8. Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia*
HT: 6-foot-5 | WT: 320 | Previously: 11
There haven't been many top-tier offensive tackle talents lately -- the last time a tackle was picked in the top five was 2015 (Brandon Scherff). Could 2020 be the year of the tackle resurgence? I'm not going to go that far just yet, but there are some talented big men to watch, such as Tristan Wirfs and Thomas. After the Bulldogs' win over Florida last week, I'm ready to cement Thomas as the best tackle in the 2020 class. The left tackle, who started on the right side as a true freshman in 2017, was flawless in pass protection against the Gators, showing his great footwork, strong hands and excellent technique. He had several nice drive blocks in the run game too.
9. Grant Delpit, S, LSU*
HT: 6-foot-3 | WT: 203 | Previously: 5
Going through the 2018 LSU tape again, it's easy to see why NFL scouts raved about Delpit. He made plays everywhere for this defense, picking up 74 tackles, 5 interceptions and 5 sacks. Delpit is a complete safety in the mold of former LSU star Jamal Adams. Both can stick running backs in the hole on one play, cover the slot receiver on the next and play the deep middle of the field on the same drive. I really like watching Delpit play. He has 43 tackles, 1 interception and 4 pass breakups this season.
10. Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn
HT: 6-foot-5 | WT: 318 | Previously: 10
I wrote about Brown last month, when he had two sacks and a forced fumble in the Tigers' win at Texas A&M. He had another sack and forced fumble -- plus two fumble recoveries -- in Auburn's loss at Florida. Brown is starting to come on and show production -- that's what he needed to do this season. NFL teams want interior disruptors who can knock down quarterbacks, and Brown hasn't shown that he can consistently do that. Yet. He's still raw, but he has top-five talent in a massive frame.
11. CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma*
HT: 6-foot-2 | WT: 191 | Previously: 9
Lamb showed how special he can be in the Sooners' win over Texas, catching 10 passes for 171 yards and three touchdowns. But you should really watch the highlights because the overall numbers don't quite capture his dominance. He couldn't be tackled. Lamb had 65 catches for 1,158 yards and 11 touchdowns last season, and that was as the Sooners' No. 2 target. With Marquise Brown off to the NFL, he has become the top target for Jalen Hurts. He is an advanced route runner, has outstanding hands and can get open against any defender. He doesn't have elite speed, but he'll test well athletically. Lamb ranks fourth in the FBS in yards per catch (22.7), and he has 11 receiving touchdowns.
12. Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama*
HT: 6-foot | WT: 190 | Previously: 8
As Tagovailoa's other favorite target, Ruggs has a game that is all about speed, though he improved as a route runner last season, when he had 46 catches for 741 yards and 11 touchdowns. He's averaging 19.7 yards per catch this season, and he has six touchdowns, though he doesn't get much target volume in a stacked Bama offense. Check out this route on a 74-yard TD catch on which he almost outruns the throw. Ruggs is the early favorite to be the fastest prospect in the 2020 class, and he's perfect for today's NFL.
13. Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama*
HT: 6-foot-6 | WT: 310 | Previously: 20
After starting at guard as a sophomore in 2018, Leatherwood replaced first-round pick Jonah Williams as Bama's left tackle this season. The former five-star high school prospect has been a rock this season. With a massive frame and great athleticism for the position, Leatherwood also packs a punch in the run game.
14. Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson*
HT: 6-foot-4 | WT: 205 | Previously: 12
It's the size that sticks out with Higgins -- he has a huge frame to create mismatches. But he's also a better-than-expected route runner, and he can stretch the field for quarterback Trevor Lawrence. He can box out smaller cornerbacks in the red zone, and he can high-point the ball on sideline throws. Check out this catch-and-run from last season. Higgins was a touchdown machine in 2018, scoring 12 times on 59 catches, and he's averaging 20.7 yards per catch on his 32 receptions this season, with four TDs.
15. Terrell Lewis, OLB, Alabama*
HT: 6-foot-5 | WT: 250 | Previously: 22
I had Lewis in my way-too-early Big Board back in May, and I noted that it was all about projection because Lewis hadn't gotten to play much in his career. After hurting his elbow in 2017 and playing in only four games, he tore his ACL before the 2018 season and missed the entire year. Lewis, though, has come back strong, showing upside as an edge rusher. He has six sacks and 12 total QB hurries this season. After Chase Young, there's no clear-cut No. 2 edge rusher in this class. Lewis has a chance to be that guy.
16. Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado*
HT: 6-foot-2 | WT: 220 | Previously: 24
Shenault is such a fun prospect. He plays wide receiver like a running back, as he's phenomenal after the catch. The Colorado staff has been smart in moving him up all over the field to get the ball in his hands, even playing him as a Wildcat quarterback at times. Shenault had 86 catches for 1,011 yards and 11 total touchdowns (five rushing) in 2018, and he has three receiving TDs and two rushing scores this season. Although he isn't as developed of a route runner as the other receivers in my top 25, that should come with more reps. He has the versatility and traits that will have NFL teams interested.
17. Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford*
HT: 6-foot-1 | WT: 190 | Previously: NR
A new addition to my Big Board, Adebo is a ball hawk. He had four interceptions and a whopping 19 pass breakups last season, and he already has four picks and another 10 breakups in 2019. Check out this one-handed interception from last season. Adebo has hands like a wide receiver (and a few schools recruited him at that position). Stanford has been disappointing this season, but Adebo is a legit first-round talent.
18. D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia*
HT: 5-foot-9 | WT: 215 | Previously: 15
Just watch Swift on this 48-yard screen against Arkansas State. He runs through and by defenders, showing off what has scouts so excited about his potential. It starts with speed, as Swift is one of the fastest running backs in the country. But he also has a physical side, and he makes tacklers miss. After running for 1,049 yards as part of a rotation last season, Swift is the Bulldogs' clear No. 1 back. He's averaging 6.2 yards per carry with six total touchdowns. He caught 32 passes last season, so he is already a third-down threat. That versatility will be important for his future.
19. Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
HT: 6-foot | WT: 200 | Previously: NR
It's hard to watch LSU and not focus on its defensive backs, as Delpit and Fulton were spectacular in 2018. Because of an NCAA suspension that wiped out his 2017 season, Fulton really didn't get playing time for two years before standing out a year ago, when he had nine pass breakups and an interception. He has eight pass breakups and an interception this season too. This is a gifted corner, and I expect him to test extremely well once he enters the NFL. Fulton will have his hands full on Saturday against a deep and talented Alabama offense.
20. CJ Henderson, CB, Florida*
HT: 6-foot-1 | WT: 202 | Previously: 18
Henderson has dealt with an ankle injury this season, and he sat out a few games. He returned for the two tough matchups with Auburn and LSU, and he had three pass breakups in each of those games. Henderson is a lockdown cover corner who needs to improve on the little things to make his all-around game better. With six interceptions combined in 2017 and 2018, Henderson has tremendous ball skills, and he has the athletic traits to be a No. 1 corner in the NFL.
21. Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
HT: 6-foot-6 | WT: 310 | Previously: 21
With a massive frame and great athleticism for his size, Kinlaw is physically gifted. And we know NFL teams are looking for interior pass-rushers, which is what Kinlaw can bring. After putting up 4.5 sacks all of last season, he has five in 2019. And he's getting to quarterbacks with quickness and power. Kinlaw moves really well for his size, and he can eat up blockers in the run game.
22. Jacob Eason, QB, Washington*
HT: 6-foot-6 | WT: 225 | Previously: 19
I love the upside here. I mentioned him before the season as a potential riser, as he was getting some buzz. He has a huge 6-6 frame and the arm to match it, but he has, frankly, looked a little rusty this season. Eason, if you recall, started 12 games for Georgia in 2016 and showed some flashes. There were a few throws that made me inch closer to the screen. But he was injured in 2017, lost his job to Jake Fromm, then transferred back to his home state and has waited two years to be able to start again. McShay and I hit on Eason's season a few weeks ago, and I think he could use another year at Washington in 2020. He needs more time, but he has the "wow" factor.
23. Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin*
HT: 5-foot-11 | WT: 220 | Previously: 13
This is an interesting running back class, and there's no first-round lock. Combine workouts are going to be extremely important for all of these guys to show true top-end speed. Taylor, though, had made his case to be that guy. After rushing for 4,171 yards and 29 touchdowns over the past two seasons -- seriously, those are ridiculous numbers -- Taylor is the Badgers' workhorse back, averaging 5.7 yards per carry with 19 total touchdowns. He has the size, athleticism and ability to be the first back off the board in April. Wisconsin has gotten him involved in the receiving game more this season too -- he has 17 catches for 143 yards.
24. J.K. Dobbins, RB, Ohio State*
HT: 5-foot-10 | WT: 215 | Previously: 25
Dobbins is a home run hitter. He looked like a future first-rounder as a freshman in 2017 before taking a step back last season. He looks much quicker and more explosive this season, as he ranks third in the FBS with 1,110 rushing yards while averaging 7.2 yards per carry. He also has 11 total touchdowns. The 40-yard dash will be extremely important for Dobbins if he enters the 2020 draft, but he could be in the first-round mix.
Marvin Wilson, DT, Florida State*[/paste:font]
HT: 6-foot-5 | WT: 311 | Previously: 23
A five-star prospect in the 2017 class, Wilson took some time to come into his own. He was good as a sophomore last season, but he had a phenomenal start to 2019, dominating Louisville in September with two sacks and recovering a fumble. He's quick off the ball, is stellar against the run and has shown the ability to penetrate past guards and centers. Wilson also had two sacks against Syracuse. And he has stepped up as a leader this season.
Top 10 prospects at each position
An asterisk denotes that the prospect is an underclassman:
1. *Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama
2. Justin Herbert, Oregon
3. Joe Burrow, LSU
4. *Jacob Eason, Washington
5. *Jake Fromm, Georgia
6. *K.J. Costello, Stanford
7. *Jordan Love, Utah State
8. Jake Luton, Oregon State
9. Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma
10. Anthony Gordon, Washington State
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1. *D'Andre Swift, Georgia
2. *Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin
3. *J.K. Dobbins, Ohio State
4. *Travis Etienne, Clemson
5. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, Vanderbilt
6. *Chuba Hubbard, Oklahoma State
7. *Cam Akers, Florida State
8. Zack Moss, Utah
9. *Clyde Edwards-Helaire, LSU
10. Lamical Perine, Florida
1. *Jerry Jeudy, Alabama
2. *CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma
3. *Henry Ruggs III, Alabama
4. *Tee Higgins, Clemson
5. *Laviska Shenault Jr., Colorado
6. *DeVonta Smith, Alabama
7. *Jalen Reagor, TCU
8. *Justin Jefferson, LSU
9. Michael Pittman Jr., USC
10. *Lynn Bowden Jr., Kentucky
1. Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt
2. *Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri
3. Adam Trautman, Dayton
4. Brycen Hopkins, Purdue
5. Harrison Bryant, Florida Atlantic
6. *Cole Kmet, Notre Dame
7. *Colby Parkinson, Stanford
8. *Hunter Bryant, Washington
9. C.J. O'Grady, Arkansas (Note: Coach Chad Morris announced Tuesday that O'Grady has left the team.)
10. Josiah Deguara, Cincinnati
Note: Oregon's Jacob Breeland, who would have been on this list, is out for the season after suffering a leg injury.
1. *Andrew Thomas, Georgia
2. *Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
3. Matt Peart, Connecticut
4. *Tristan Wirfs, Iowa
5. Josh Jones, Houston
6. Trey Adams, Washington
7. *Jedrick Wills, Alabama
8. *Samuel Cosmi, Texas
9. *Saahdiq Charles, LSU
10. Prince Tega Wanogho, Auburn
Note: Stanford's Walker Little and TCU's Lucas Niang would have been on this list, but they are out for the season with injuries.
1. Ben Bredeson, Michigan
2. John Simpson, Clemson
3. Robert Hunt, Louisiana-Lafayette
4. Logan Stenberg, Kentucky
5. *Jack Anderson, Texas Tech
6. *Trey Smith, Tennessee
7. Tremayne Anchrum, Clemson
8. *Solomon Kindley, Georgia
9. Gage Cervenka, Clemson
10. Daishawn Dixon, San Diego State
Note: Fresno State's Netane Muti, who would have been on this list, is out for the season with a foot injury.
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1. *Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin
2. *Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
3. *Matt Hennessy, Temple
4. Nick Harris, Washington
5. *Keith Ismael, San Diego State
6. *Lloyd Cushenberry III, LSU
7. Luke Juriga, Western Michigan
8. Cohl Cabral, Arizona State
9. Darryl Williams, Mississippi State
10. Frederick Mauigoa, Washington State
1. *Chase Young, Ohio State
2. *Yetur Gross-Matos, Penn State
3. *A.J. Epenesa, Iowa
4. Jabari Zuniga, Florida
5. Carlos "Boogie" Basham, Wake Forest
6. *James Lynch, Baylor
7. Marlon Davidson, Auburn
8. Bradlee Anae, Utah
9. Khalid Kareem, Notre Dame
10. D.J. Wonnum, South Carolina
1. Derrick Brown, Auburn
2. Javon Kinlaw, South Carolina
3. *Marvin Wilson, Florida State
4. Raekwon Davis, Alabama
5. Neville Gallimore, Oklahoma
6. *Jordan Elliott, Missouri
7. *Justin Madubuike, Texas A&M
8. Davon Hamilton, Ohio State
9. Leki Fotu, Utah
10. Jashon Cornell, Ohio State
1. Jordyn Brooks, Texas Tech
2. *Kenneth Murray, Oklahoma
3. Evan Weaver, California
4. Malik Harrison, Ohio State
5. Troy Dye, Oregon
6. Kamal Martin, Minnesota
7. Shaq Quarterman, Miami (Fla.)
8. Shaun Bradley, Temple
9. *K.J. Britt, Auburn
10. Logan Wilson, Wyoming
Note: Alabama's Dylan Moses, who would have been on this list, suffered a knee injury and is out for the season.
1. *Isaiah Simmons, Clemson
2. *Terrell Lewis, Alabama
3. *Curtis Weaver, Boise State
4. Zack Baun, Wisconsin
5. Alex Highsmith, Charlotte
6. Julian Okwara, Notre Dame
7. Anfernee Jennings, Alabama
8. *K'Lavon Chaisson, LSU
9. Josh Uche, Michigan
10. Darrell Taylor, Tennessee
Note: Wake Forest's Justin Strnad, who would have been on this list, is out for the season with a biceps injury.
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1. *Jeff Okudah, Ohio State
2. *Paulson Adebo, Stanford
3. Kristian Fulton, LSU
4. *CJ Henderson, Florida
5. Jeff Gladney, TCU
6. Trevon Diggs, Alabama
7. *Shaun Wade, Ohio State
8. Damon Arnette, Ohio State
9. *A.J. Terrell, Clemson
10. Troy Pride Jr., Notre Dame
Note: Virginia's Bryce Hall, who would have been on this list, suffered a leg injury and is out for the season.
1. *Grant Delpit, LSU
2. *Xavier McKinney, Alabama
3. Ashtyn Davis, California
4. Shyheim Carter, Alabama
5. Brandon Jones, Texas
6. Kyle Dugger, Lenoir-Rhyne
7. Davion Taylor, Colorado
8. Jeremy Chinn, So. Illinois
9. Chris Miller, Baylor
10. Brian Cole II, Mississippi State
Kickers and punters
1. Braden Mann, Texas A&M (P)
2. Alex Pechin, Bucknell (P)
3. Joseph Charlton, South Carolina (P)
4. Sterling Hofrichter, Syracuse (P)
5. *Blake Haubeil, Ohio State (K)
6. *Max Duffy, Kentucky (P)
7. *Oscar Bradburn, Virginia Tech (P)
8. Rodrigo Blankenship, Georgia (K)
9. *Drue Chrisman, Ohio State (P)
10. Connor Limpert, Arkansas (K)
1. Blake Ferguson, LSU
2. Steve Wirtel, Iowa State
3. Rex Sunahara, West Virginia
4. *John Shannon, Notre Dame
5. A.J. Carty, Washington
6. Matt Beardall, Marshall
7. Geron Eatherly, Tulane
Rodrigo Blankenship as the 8th best punter/kicker? I thought he was regarded as the best
Solid game for check down Tua
#Cincinnati Bengals officially clinch the #1 pick
very well deserved fellas as you are the worst team I’ve seen this year and I watch the Miami dolphins every week
Can't wait to take Jalen Hurts.
Redskins, what the fuck are you doing?
Corch on draft day will always be my favorite but Pelican is a close second