2020 NFL Thread

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  1. Jack Parkman

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  3. Louis Holth

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    Ain’t getting beat on this thread. Appreciate the hustle.
     
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    Tom Brady to 49ers, Jimmy G sad. Niners win SB.
     
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  6. Hatfield

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    Anyone think there’s a chance AB plays next year? I honestly don’t see it happening.
     
  7. Sir Phobos

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    AB is mentally unwell and shouldn't be anywhere near a football field before receiving proper psychiatric care.

    so, like, 5:2 odds.
     
  8. Saul Shabazz

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    :nomnom:
     
  9. Jax Teller

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    Henry said Zeke's number is the floor. That seems aggressive.
     
  10. Andy Reocho

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    He’s carried the ball a lot, needs to get his now, as RBs don’t get taken care of
     
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    At this point the pats and Brady both need each other
     
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    Big fan of the icon.
     
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  14. Doc Louis

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    Feels like 2019 thread was just yesterday
     
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    Well yea but I just mean that seems like pricing himself out of the Titans. Especially since Tannehill is a FA as well. What's the last RB to really earn that big contract after it was signed?
     
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  17. DUCKMOUTH

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    Fucking Zeke contract going to fuck a lot of teams up. I love Kamara, but he going to demand more now too. I don’t believe any RB is worth that Zeke contract.
     
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    you don't pay running backs. draft them (not in the top 10), use them on their rookie deals and get a new one

    its pretty simple but the dumb teams continue to ignore it
     
  20. racer

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    Yeah, but what if you combine them with a top ten QB pick?

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    Very unfortunate but that’s where the Titans are. I think it would be a massive fuck up to overpay Henry, who has said he wants Zeke money.
     
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    This is all so dumb.
     
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  24. snowfx2

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    CBA expires after 2020 season.

     
  25. Corch

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    I'm curious what the players are going to ask for in return other than an increase in the revenue.

    I'd guess a second bye week is a no brained
     
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    They should just fold the jaguars.
     
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    Sheil Kapadia's 20 bold and not so bold predictions for 2020

    The 2019 season ended Sunday night with the Chiefs coming back to beat the 49ers 31-20 in Super Bowl 54. Now it’s time to turn the page to next season: free-agency buzz, mock drafts, organized team activities and 32 fan bases convinced that 2020 will be their year.

    What you’ll find below are 20 predictions for 2020. Some have to do with free agency and player movement. Others deal with the actual season. The predictions range from bold to not so bold. You will likely agree with every single one. Numbers are courtesy of Sportradar unless otherwise noted.

    1. Tom Brady signs with the Raiders
    Let’s get two things straight. One, the most likely scenario is that Brady remains with the Patriots. They can sell him on having a great defense and a coaching staff he’s familiar with. With an upgrade in offensive talent, they’ll be competing for another Lombardi Trophy. And two, every report about Brady heading elsewhere should be viewed as a leverage play. That’s the way things work this time of year. Having said that, I think there’s a legit scenario in which the Raiders could make sense. Let’s say Bill Belichick meets with Brady and they disagree about which moves are necessary to get the Patriots back on track. Brady wants more weapons — maybe even specific guys. Belichick may look at Brady’s age and declining performance and wonder if such moves would be in the best long-term interest of the franchise. So, Brady starts to explore all his options. The Raiders have an offensive line that produced the sixth-lowest sack rate last year. They’ve got a stud running back who can make plays in the passing game in Josh Jacobs and a dynamic tight end in Darren Waller. Hunter Renfrow had a promising rookie season in the slot. And the Raiders have the resources to add a dynamic wide receiver to pair with Tyrell Williams on the outside. Jon Gruden has an affinity for veteran quarterbacks and has said nothing to indicate he’s fully committed to Derek Carr going forward. Heading to Las Vegas (no state income tax!) could end up being an appealing option to Brady. Is the scenario I laid out likely? No. But is it possible? I think so.

    2. The Vikings trade Stefon Diggs to the Raiders
    The only scenario in which Brady leaves is if he finds a better situation elsewhere. That means significantly better weapons than he had with the Patriots in 2019. Adding Diggs to the names mentioned above would give the Raiders an impressive supporting cast around Brady. Would Mike Mayock be hesitant to part with draft capital after what happened with Antonio Brown last year? Yes. But this would be a different scenario. Diggs is 26 and has a reasonable contract through 2023. Even if things don’t work out with Brady, he’d still be an asset for the next Raiders quarterback. The Athletic’s Jon Krawczynski went over the possibilities of Diggs being dealt last month, and it doesn’t seem like a given he’ll be back in Minnesota. The Raiders have two first-round picks. They can send the No. 19 selection and something else to the Vikings in exchange for Diggs and still draft a quality player at No. 12. The Vikings can use the additional resources to address multiple weaknesses.

    3. The Bengals make the playoffs
    Don’t stop reading — at least let me make the case! They draft Joe Burrow with the first pick. Given his excellent pocket feel, outstanding mental processing and uncanny accuracy, he steps in and looks better than most rookie QBs do. The Bengals bring back A.J. Green and already have Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon. They get 2019 first-round pick Jonah Williams, who was injured last season, back on the offensive line and make other upgrades there in the draft. Plus, Zac Taylor figures some things out in his second season as head coach. The offense is set up for success. And remember, the Bengals weren’t quite as bad as their 2-14 record indicated. They went 0-8 in one-possession games. If they win half of those, they’re 6-10 and a respectable team. So, did I convince you? No? OK, let’s just move on.

    4. The Buccaneers sign Philip Rivers
    The rumors started shortly after ESPN reported that Rivers and his family were moving to Florida to be closer to family. Maybe that’s nothing, or maybe it’s something. Rivers would be surrounded by one of the best wide receiver tandems in Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. He knows how to get rid of the ball quickly behind mediocre offensive lines. And look at what Bruce Arians has said about Rivers in the past. It would instantly become one of the most fun coach-and-quarterback pairings. Rivers yelling at defenders. Arians yelling at the refs. Both of them yelling at each other after interceptions and failed third-down conversions. They’d probably go 8-8 but would have the upside to be the most entertaining 8-8 team of all time.

    5. Cam Newton lands in Los Angeles
    We’ll see whether Matt Rhule wants Newton back, but at this point, it seems likely he’s played his last game in Carolina. If Newton is available, and the Chargers move on from Rivers, he could make a lot of sense as their next quarterback. The Chargers were not as bad as their 5-11 record last year suggests. They were 2-9 in one-possession games. They’ve got a talented defense and can open their new stadium with the promise of Newton firing lasers to Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. Newton’s health is obviously a huge question, but the Chargers with him at quarterback could be a fun, entertaining team.

    6. The Packers trade for Odell Beckham Jr.
    General manager Brian Gutekunst was aggressive last offseason, signing Za’Darius Smith, Preston Smith and Adrian Amos to bolster the Packers’ defense. Those moves helped get Green Bay to the NFC Championship Game. But Aaron Rodgers will be another year older — he turns 37 in December — and the Packers have to continue to take big swings while he’s still their starter. Gutekunst told reporters after the season that the Packers looked into trading for an “explosive offensive player” at the trade deadline, but it didn’t work out. This offseason is time to revisit those talks and see if they can pair Beckham with Davante Adams. The Beckham experiment in Cleveland was a massive failure, but new GM Andrew Berry can at least get quality draft picks (maybe a first and a player or a first and a fifth?) in return for him with the focus being on building a consistently competitive team for the long term.

    7. The Titans don’t return to the playoffs
    They had a great run down the stretch behind Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannehill. Mike Vrabel deserves a ton of credit for getting them to the AFC Championship Game after road wins in New England and Baltimore. But how sustainable is their formula going into 2020? Tannehill and Henry are pending free agents. The Titans will likely find a way to bring them back — whether through multi-year extensions or the franchise or transition tags. Henry is coming off a season (the playoffs included) in which he had 409 touches. That’s 179 more than he’s ever had before. Tannehill is coming off a season in which he became the second quarterback in NFL history to complete over 70 percent of his passes and average better than 9.0 yards per attempt. Do we really think he can keep up that pace? Given how well the season ended, the Titans pretty much have to bring Tannehill and Henry back. But they’d be wise to try to maintain long-term flexibility with both players.

    8. The Ravens win Super Bowl LV
    The case for the Ravens is straightforward. They were young on offense with Lamar Jackson, Marquise Brown, Miles Boykin, Mark Andrews and others. Those guys can use their playoff loss as a learning experience and motivation for next season. John Harbaugh will stay committed to process over results. And the Ravens return both coordinators — Greg Roman and ‘Wink’ Martindale — from a year ago. They need to add more to their pass rush and can’t expect older players like Mark Ingram and Earl Thomas to perform at quite the same level. But the Ravens have five picks in the first four rounds (and could have as many as seven with compensatory picks) and are positioned to come back strong. Be cautious with your Jackson takes this offseason or risk getting hit by Old Takes Exposed next offseason.

    9. The Falcons are next year’s version of the 49ers
    I’m not saying it will be the same, but it could be close. The 49ers went from 4-12 in 2018 to the Super Bowl. The Falcons were 7-9 in 2019 and it seemed like a given that Dan Quinn would be fired. But Atlanta rallied in the second half of the season and decided to give Quinn another shot. The Falcons have three draft picks in the top 55 and four in the top 100. The plan should be to shore up their offensive line. If Atlanta can do that, Matt Ryan has a chance to get back to MVP form and the Falcons can position themselves for a deep playoff run.

    10. The Bears trade for Nick Foles
    Publicly, they’ve said they’re committed to Mitch Trubisky. What else are they going to say? Trubisky had the third-worst Total QBR last season and finished 30th in adjusted net yards per attempt. Counting on him to bounce back in 2020 with no other viable option on the team would be front-office malpractice. The Bears are in a tricky spot. They don’t want to admit their mistake with Trubisky and add someone to be the unquestioned starter. But they also don’t want to put all their eggs in Trubisky’s basket. Enter Foles. The Jaguars will have to take a financial hit, but they can at least get something in return for him as they move forward with Gardner Minshew. Matt Nagy coached Foles in Kansas City. New Bears offensive coordinator Bill Lazor was Foles’ quarterbacks coach when he threw 27 touchdown passes and two interceptions in 2013. New Bears quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo was Foles’ coach when he won a Super Bowl with the Eagles and also coached him last year in Jacksonville. The coaching staff should know his strengths and weaknesses. Foles is an elite teammate with great veteran perspective. He will support Trubisky until (unless?) it doesn’t work out and then can step in and give the Bears a level of competence with intriguing upside.

    11. The Patriots turn to Teddy Bridgewater
    When’s the last time the Patriots were in the market for a starting quarterback? They had Drew Bledsoe from 1993 to 2000 and then Brady took over. They have a young quarterback in Jarrett Stidham. Perhaps Belichick turns to him if Brady leaves. Or he could pursue a quarterback in free agency. In Bridgewater, the Patriots could land a starting option who would not break the bank. Bridgewater has the intangibles in terms of leadership and work ethic that Belichick may find appealing. And he’s not the type of quarterback that will lose the game with mistakes. In five starts with the Saints last season, Bridgewater posted a 1.0 percent interception rate and he fumbled just once. It doesn’t have to be an either/or situation. The Patriots can bring Bridgewater in and let him compete with Stidham. If they see someone they like in the draft, they can take another swing there. Bridgewater is hitting free agency in a year when teams have a lot of quarterback options. New England could be one of his best chances to start.

    12. Jameis Winston doesn’t find the market he’s looking for
    If Tampa Bay decides to move on from Winston, I’m curious to see if any team will be willing to commit to him long term. On one hand, he’s only 26 and threw for 5,109 yards and 33 touchdowns last season. On the other hand, Winston was first with a 4.8 percent interception rate (30 picks total), and let’s not forget that he also had 12 fumbles, the sixth most. Plus, there are the off-field issues. If I were a coach whose general manager wanted to sign Winston, I would just be emailing him the “Eat a W” video clip on a daily basis until he decided to go in a different direction. Put more simply: If you’re a GM, will signing Winston bring you closer to a title or closer to getting fired? As always, it only takes one. But I don’t think Winston is going to have the market he’s expecting.

    13. Byron Jones becomes the highest-paid CB in the NFL
    That title belongs to Miami’s Xavien Howard, who’s earning more than $15 million annually. The Cowboys have to figure out how to proceed with Dak Prescott, Amari Cooper and Jones this offseason. Prescott and Cooper figure to be higher priorities, and if Jones hits the market, he’s likely to see a big payday. He’ll turn 28 next season, has cornerback/safety versatility (which coaches love), has missed just one game due to injury in five seasons and has played at a high level. Marcus Peters recently re-signed with the Ravens on a deal that will pay him $14 million annually. That’s the floor for Jones. But he could easily reset the market at $16 million or $17 million.

    14. The Texans trade for O.J. Howard
    Bill O’Brien named Bill O’Brien the GM last week. I don’t think he’s overly concerned with long-term planning or accumulating draft capital. I think his goal will be to put together a team that can win as many games as possible in 2020. That means aggressive moves in free agency (after extending the contracts of DeShaun Watson and Laremy Tunsil, of course) and aggressive trades. One issue the Texans have had is finding a secondary target behind DeAndre Hopkins when Will Fuller is injured. They should look to add a wide receiver in the draft, but they can address tight end via a trade with the Bucs. Arians got very little last season out of Howard, who had 34 catches for 459 yards and one touchdown. Howard is signed through the season and could get his contract extended another year via a fifth-year option. He would be a nice addition to Houston’s offense and a midround pick or another player could get it done.

    15. Devin Singletary will win the rushing title
    Singletary was a lot of fun to watch in his rookie season, rushing 151 times for 775 yards, or 5.1 yards per carry. But he battled through some injuries, and it took a while before the Bills really started feeding him the ball. In the second half of the season, Singletary was tied for ninth with 131 rushing attempts and eighth with 603 rushing yards. With Frank Gore (likely) out of the picture, Singletary should be the unquestioned feature back for the Bills. He has great vision and consistently makes defenders miss. Draft him in fantasy and don’t be surprised if he leads the league in rushing yards in 2020.

    16. Courtland Sutton will lead the NFL in receiving yards
    The Broncos were largely irrelevant in 2019 so you’re forgiven if you weren’t paying much attention to him, but Sutton was one of the best wide receivers. He showed up every week and finished the season with 72 catches for 1,112 yards and six touchdowns. That was with Joe Flacco, Brandon Allen and Drew Lock playing quarterback. The Broncos’ quarterback situation is still unsettled going into 2020, but if Lock can develop or if Denver can add a competent veteran, Sutton can have a monster year. He has the look of one of the next great wide receivers.

    17. Minkah Fitzpatrick wins Defensive Player of the Year
    I will happily admit I was wrong about this trade. I thought the Steelers had a chance to be one of the worst six or seven teams without Ben Roethlisberger and that giving up a first-round pick for Fitzpatrick was risky. Instead, the Steelers finished 8-8 and Fitzpatrick turned in an All-Pro season. Now, Pittsburgh gets an entire offseason to come up with creative ways for how to use Fitzpatrick other than in his usual free safety role. By the way, he will be just 23 at the start of the season. The last safety to win Defensive Player of the Year was Troy Polamalu in 2010. Fitzpatrick could be the next in 2020.

    18. Washington produces a top-five defense
    Washington has Ron Rivera running the show, and it’s not like the cupboard on defense is bare. It has invested resources in Montez Sweat, Jonathan Allen, Ryan Kerrigan, Daron Payne and Matt Ioannidis. Plus, there’s a good chance they add Ohio State defensive end Chase Young with the second pick. Washington still needs to make moves on the back end, especially at cornerback, but analytical research tells us that defensive efficiency isn’t sticky year to year and new units rise each season. Under Rivera, Washington could have one of the defenses that makes the leap.

    19. The Cardinals produce a top-five offense
    The first year of the Kliff Kingsbury/Kyler Murray era was exciting. Arizona’s offense went from 32nd in 2018 to 13th in 2019 in Football Outsiders’ DVOA efficiency metric. In weighted DVOA, which puts more stock into late-season games and less stock into early-season games, the Cardinals ranked seventh in offensive DVOA. Kingsbury figured things out with his scheme and with game management as the season went on. Murray got a better handle on knowing when he could outrun defenders and when he couldn’t. And his downfield passes were a thing of beauty. Arizona needs to shore up its offensive line and maybe add a pass-catcher (depending on how it feels about its young guys). But the Cardinals should be really fun in 2020.

    20. Chris Jones has a Za’Darius Smith-like impact … for the Colts
    The Super Bowl 54 box score shows one tackle, no sacks and no quarterback hits for Jones. That serves as a great reminder of why we have to actually watch the games. Jones was terrific for the Chiefs, providing consistent pressure up the middle and batting down three passes by Jimmy Garoppolo. He told reporters after the game that he wants to be in Kansas City for a long time, but he will be a free agent and he should be looking for a huge payday. He’ll be just 26 at the start of next season and has had 31 sacks since 2017. It’s entirely possible the Chiefs use the franchise tag on Jones, but if the two sides can’t come to an agreement, perhaps that leads to a tag and trade. The Athletic’s Stephen Holder advised Colts fans not to get their hopes up, but Jones could be the type of young impact player Indianapolis looks to splurge on. Smith had a huge impact as a free-agent signing for the Packers. Jones might be able to do the same for the Colts.
     
  29. Tobias

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    brilliant stuff mara



    we are going to suck again next year but sure let's let a lameduck GM spend $60m in free agency and run another draft all while burning through another year of DJ and saquon on their rookie deals any GM candidate will have a coach they didnt pick foisted on them next offseason

    recklessly incompentent
     
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    Good luck with that
     
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    That's nice of them to pay for season ticket holders to have a free two week vacation all expenses paid in London though
     
  34. Tony Ray Bans

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    Man if Byron Jones really becomes the highest paid CB in the league 1) thats bonkers and 2) I desperately hope its not in Dallas. Dude has 2 career picks
     
  35. teel

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    He’s so good he’s never thrown at. Pay that man.
     
  36. Tobias

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    we could use him
     
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  38. Doug

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    Would love to see the players hold firm for 3 things.

    2nd BYE week before all Thursday night games.
    An expanded roster, can leave the game day the same and just increase inactives so banged up players can actually heal up and not force every UDFA to go to IR with a sprained ankle. Would love to see 60 on the roster.
    No more weed tests.
     
  39. Corch

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    Great point on the roster. There's no reason the rosters can't be at 60 and everyone can be active on game day
     
  40. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    So you think players want their pool of money spread out over an additional 250 roster spots?
     
  41. Doug

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    If you mean cap space, keep it how it currently is where the top 51 count against the cap only
     
  42. racer

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    Nah he means that every player’s revenue share gets smaller with more players in the pool. Math and stuff.
     
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  44. Jimmy Mac

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    Maybe I’m way off base here but I’m pretty surprised there’s a market for Olsen. After a 13 year career, injuries, and he’s looked pretty washed from the games I’ve watched.
     
  45. lfriend

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    I think half of Weddle's career INTs were due to Matt Cassel.
     
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    I think you are way off base, as you said. Olsen is certainly past his prime but have you looked around at what some teams TE situations are? Its pretty dreadful, Olsen missed two games and still put up top 12 TE numbers.
     
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  48. teel

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  49. Jimmy Mac

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    Yeah you’re probably right, I guess I wouldn’t feel comfortable with Olsen being my big TE signing for an offseason. Maybe a team that could pair him with another starting caliber TE and cut down his snap count would be a great fit for him.