2020 NFL Thread

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  1. Tobias

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    i am sick of all these lower case j journalists hinting at this story. either drop the article or shut up until you have stuff confirmed and ready to go to press. its not some teaser for a blockbuster movie. they just want the attention of being in the know. "ooooo this story is so juicy wish i could tell you but i cant its sooooo good tho"

    need more capital J's
     
  2. Pelican Grove

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    Before the days of social media, reporters/news media in observance of their journalistic integrity would never tease the story like that. Just an unspoken rule.

    Now with Twitter they teeter on the edge or practically give you the cliff notes of what’s coming because they feel it’s an easier and direct path to getting verified and blue checked.
     
  3. Clown Baby

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    Love to go on a rant at midnight on a Wednesday. Big gubbs energy
     
  4. Tony Ray Bans

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    I have seen a lot of their big writers hinting at something big for a few days but being very cryptic. If that is really it thats wild
     
  5. lfriend

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    I remember a story already being published about the Washingtons holding cheerleaders passports hostage so that rich old men could perv. Hardly breaking news.
     
  6. joey jo-jo jr shabadoo

    joey jo-jo jr shabadoo you know for me, the action is the juice

    i know there are countless women that have been coerced, hoodwinked, and bamboozled into sticking a dick in their mouth in order to "advance their careers"

    but these instances involving scoops about the fighting dan snyders just might be the saddest
     
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  7. DeToxRox

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  8. DeToxRox

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    At first I wasn’t sure if this was about Covid or Mitch Trubisky’s ranking in comparison to other NFL QBs
     
  9. Saul Shabazz

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    "Myyyaaameee Dolphins....Myyyameee Dolphins"

    I hate this state
     
  10. Clown Baby

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    I think it’s Tobias who absolutely hates Dr. David Chao, so he must feel pretty good hearing the news that Chao is taking his malpractice talents to Clay Travis’ site
     
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  11. Tobias

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    he said ronnie would likely be out for a year after getting hurt and he was back 2 weeks later

    he is a fraud so that decision makes total sense.
     
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  12. Clown Baby

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    in Chao’s defense, he was likely shitfaced when he saw Ronnie’s injury on TV
     
  13. Cornelius Suttree

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    ESPN+ top 10 CB rankings:

    kinda shocked Hayward is only honorable mention

    Quick passing games, run-pass options and mobile quarterbacks have forced teams to improve their man coverage. Perhaps more than ever, general managers and coaches prioritize players with man-coverage traits, with the ability to shadow when needed.

    In the voting for the top 10 cornerbacks, tiebreakers usually went to the players with that ability, which complicates matters because the league has so many good corners in a variety of different systems and roles.

    Most of the players below can stand alone as true outside guys who bring balance to the back end of a defense.

    1. Stephon Gilmore, New England Patriots
    Age: 29 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 3

    Gilmore received some second- and third-place votes, but he was a steady presence atop the composite voting through the entire process.

    The only complaint I could find about Gilmore was that he's had moments of suspect tackling, but an NFL head coach debunked that in a hurry, stressing that tackling is one of his many strengths.

    "With New England's press man, you saw his traits come to life," said an NFL coordinator. "He's got it all in that area. Perfect marriage of system and player."

    Gilmore became the sixth defensive back to win NFL Defensive Player of the Year, and his new company is impressive: Charles Woodson, Deion Sanders, Rod Woodson, Lester Hayes, Mel Blount.

    Last season, Gilmore saw the most targets as the nearest defender (96) without allowing a single touchdown, according to NFL Next Gen Stats.

    One AFC exec called his athleticism "beyond rare" and added that he can run "all day."

    "What's amazing is he was still sort of raw out of college and switched to defensive back late in his football development, but he's got such a good blend of instincts, size and toughness," said one veteran NFL defensive coach. "He'll have a window of a few more years where he'll be premier."

    2. Jalen Ramsey, Los Angeles Rams
    Age: 25 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 7

    Easily No. 1 based on traits, Ramsey wasn't able to push Gilmore for the top spot but comfortably protected No. 2. Ramsey's combination of length, recovery speed, transition ability and ball skills are unmatched.

    "He's a one-of-a-kind," said an NFL offensive coach. "When he's cooking, he scares you on the game plan more than just about anyone. You have to find ways to throw away from or around him."

    Conversely, one veteran NFL quarterback said Ramsey is "the Amari Cooper of corners," a supreme talent who leaves you wanting more.

    "There are some inconsistencies you see on tape with footwork or freelancing a bit," the quarterback said. "But he's too talented not to put it all together this year."

    To be sure, Ramsey was thrust into the Rams' defense after a midseason trade from Jacksonville. He had to develop chemistry with safeties and coaches in short order.

    Some coaches expect the Rams to maximize Ramsey by matching him up in quarters coverage (zone defense inside, with Ramsey in man defense outside).

    "After one year in L.A. he'll be No. 1," an NFL defensive coach said.

    Coaches hope Ramsey settles into his role as the top corner -- with less negative emotion on the field. Ramsey got ejected from a game for fighting A.J. Green, who was also ejected, and clashed with Jaguars coach Doug Marrone on the sideline.

    "He can get mentally hijacked in a ballgame," said an NFL coordinator. "You have to keep your composure."

    3. Tre'Davious White, Buffalo Bills
    Age: 25 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 8

    White is coming off a huge season in Buffalo and has the league's attention in a big way.

    "He tackles, can play zone or man, can cover best guy, helps in run support -- the complete package," said one NFL passing game coordinator. "Only knock on him was turnovers, but he answered that this year."

    White tied Gilmore and Vikings safety Anthony Harris for the league lead with six interceptions. White also tied Gilmore and Steelers corner Joe Haden for third place in disrupted dropbacks -- sacks, interceptions, batted or tipped passes -- with 18.

    And if it wasn't obvious White likes to shadow the best player, he finished second to Gilmore in targets as the nearest defender without giving up a touchdown (84).

    White has the perfect setup in Buffalo, which is one of the league's most disciplined defenses with playmaking safeties Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer anchoring the middle.

    Playing in a bigger market such as New York City or Dallas would only amplify White's star wattage.

    "His technique is impressive," said an NFL defensive assistant coach. "He's arrived as a top-flight guy."

    4. Darius Slay, Philadelphia Eagles
    Age: 29 | Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 12

    Slay isn't coming off his best season in Detroit, but unrest existed between Slay and the Lions organization. Plus, Lions corners played consistent man despite the defense ranking next to last in sacks with 28, applying more pressure on downfield routes.

    "Slay is a guy you'll go into Sunday with all day," said one NFL coordinator. "He'll play man coverage all day -- he'll battle, not afraid to get in spaces, match up with anyone, and he can run."

    Over the last three seasons, Slay allowed the league's third-lowest completion percentage as the nearest defender, at 51.8.

    That's why the Eagles are elated to get Slay, who signed a $50 million extension with the team after Philadelphia swung a trade with Detroit. The Eagles held out for a lead corner for the last two years and got the deal they wanted.

    "He's got natural ball skills and awareness in the open field, which will help him age well," said an NFC defensive assistant coach.

    5. Marshon Lattimore, New Orleans Saints
    Age: 24 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 11

    Many voters liked Lattimore in the top five because of transition speed that allows him to close in a hurry and play the ball deep, mixed with the physicality to tackle well.

    "He's got everything, and he plays up to good competition," said an NFL passing game coordinator. "He thrives off the big matchup. The only issue with him is a little inconsistency week to week. He'll get up for the big games and then have a down game. A big part of the NFL transition is everyone can play [at a high level] in this league."

    Lattimore has been disruptive through three seasons, deflecting 44 passes since entering the league in 2017.

    "If he puts together another solid season then he might be top three next year," the coordinator said.

    6. Marlon Humphrey, Baltimore Ravens
    Age: 24 | Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: 10

    Many slot corners were deserving of consideration, but most play there exclusively. Humphrey impresses inside or out.

    To make room for Marcus Peters, who was traded from Los Angeles to Baltimore last season, Humphrey seamlessly slid into the slot.

    "Love that guy," said one NFL coordinator who played against him recently. "He's physical, he tackles, serious athlete, strong, moves fluidly. Easily one of my favorite corners."

    Added an NFC exec: "Humphrey is my favorite because he plays his ass off."

    Humphrey ranked second behind White in completion percentage allowed above expectation over the past three seasons, at -6.0% (from 55.2 to 49.2).

    Humphrey finished the year with three interceptions and 14 passes defended on 979 defensive snaps.

    "He's coming," said a veteran AFC scout. "He's improved so much from college [at Alabama]."

    7. Patrick Peterson, Arizona Cardinals
    Age: 30 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 11

    Most agree Peterson didn't have his best year in 2019. He missed the first six games due to a suspension for violating the league's performance-enhancing drugs policy, and his third game back, on Halloween, was a rough outing against the 49ers.

    "He's approaching the fringe, and this year there might be the drop-off," an NFL coordinator said.

    But most voters kept Peterson on their list because he's still one of the game's best athletes every time he steps on the field, and it wasn't long ago he was staking a claim as the game's best corner. His length-and-speed combination is still a problem. And as a different NFL coordinator pointed out, he can turn defense into offense, which is rare (i.e., he can catch and run).

    "He's still a prime example of what a corner should be -- total pro, tackles well," the coordinator said. "He's just getting older, he's playing on a bad defense and they have one pass-rusher. But still top 10, no doubt."

    8. Marcus Peters, Baltimore Ravens
    Age: 27 | Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: 11

    Most fascinating player on the list, and many voters think he's too low here.

    "Man the guy bothers me, but he does nothing but make plays, so you can't knock him," said one high-ranking league executive.

    There's no denying Peters is wildly productive. It took him five years to grab 27 interceptions, more than Gilmore's total in eight seasons (24) and Peterson's in nine seasons (25). He's got 77 pass deflections during that span, a pace that could push Champ Bailey's NFL record of 203.

    He's also the ultimate gambler, the quintessential boom-or-bust player, resulting in more than a few votes in the 10 and 11 range.

    "He guesses most of the time -- he gets beat, but he can embarrass you, too," said a veteran NFL quarterback. "You love and hate to play against him for that reason."

    Some evaluators say he's not an elite tackler and takes a lot of chances, but who cares because he's getting the offense the ball back every other game.

    "Put him in coverage and he can read and jump," said an NFL coordinator. "He gets greedy and overaggressive, but he's determined to change the game, and you have to respect it."

    9. Xavien Howard, Miami Dolphins
    Age: 27 | Highest ranking: 4 | Lowest ranking: Off the ballot

    Howard's injury-riddled 2019 resulted in five games played and December knee surgery, but voters prefer to remember the guy who picked off seven passes the year before.

    "Ball skills all day," one NFL coordinator said. "He's just got a knack for it. He's long and knows how to track it. When he's healthy, he's a top corner."

    Howard flashed his ability in limited action in Brian Flores' defense, which demands a lot from its man-coverage corners. The Dolphins trust him to shadow any receiver in the NFL.

    Howard enters the second year of a five-year, $76.5 million deal and will be eager to validate it in 2020.

    "He's still got some things to prove after last year, but I expect him to be firmly established after this year," said an AFC scout. "Really talented player."

    10. Byron Jones, Miami Dolphins
    Age: 27 | Highest ranking: 5 | Lowest ranking: Off the ballot

    A voting logjam at 10 made this difficult, but Jones separated from Richard Sherman and third-year corners Jaire Alexander and Denzel Ward. The former Dallas Cowboy's man-coverage traits are among the best.

    Jones can show physicality, too. His 64 stops against designed runs the last three years ranks second among cornerbacks, behind Logan Ryan.

    "If you're starting a team now, I would take B. Jones because with a bigger, faster corner with coverage ability like him, you believe you can get the ball skills out of him," said an NFL passing game coordinator. "He hasn't shown he has that, but I believe in Miami he will."

    The Dolphins signed Jones to a massive five-year, $82.5 million deal to help anchor their man coverage.

    The obvious issue with Jones is the lack of production on the ball. This dubious stat from the Dallas Morning News says it all: Jones is the only corner in NFL history without at least five picks in his first 70 starts. His six pass deflections in 15 games last year don't help his cause.

    Some voters were swayed by all this. That he's cracking the top 10 despite the numbers speaks to the talent.

    "He was an All-Pro two years ago," one NFL general manager said. "No doubt [he belongs]."

    Honorable mention
    Richard Sherman, San Francisco 49ers: "How smart he is makes up for the physical limitations at this stage. If he doesn't win at the line, he can struggle with instant separators, in-breaking stuff. Or if hit vertically, can be tough to recover. But from a ball skills standpoint and football instincts, toughness, tackling, still one of the best." -- NFC exec

    Jaire Alexander, Green Bay Packers: "He is a stud -- aggressive mentality, feel in coverage, speed to sustain coverage downfield and attacks the ball. Good eyes and instincts. Sticky." -- NFC exec

    Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns: "As far as movement skills and twitch and top-end speed, he's got all that. He's just a little on the slender side." -- NFL coordinator

    Casey Hayward, Los Angeles Chargers: "Really smart, savvy player who's been producing for a long time. Probably gets knocked for being in a zone-heavy scheme but he's really good." -- NFL defensive assistant coach

    Joe Haden, Pittsburgh Steelers: "Had one of his better years last year. He's held up really well and had a nice resurgence in Pittsburgh." -- NFL passing game coordinator

    Kyle Fuller, Chicago Bears: "He's another zone-heavy guy, but he's a good visual guy, pursues the ball and plays instinctively." -- NFL coordinator

    J.C. Jackson, New England Patriots: "A playmaker and an athlete. He's top 10 for me." -- AFC exec

    Steven Nelson, Pittsburgh Steelers: "I thought both [outside] Pittsburgh corners were good last year. He probably doesn't get enough credit." -- NFL coordinator
     
  14. bro

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    seems like some benefit of the doubt still being given to Ramsey. Just didn't seem dominant last year but maybe it was just a weird year.
     
  15. Andy Reocho

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  16. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Pretty sure on Fletch they teased his story a few days before it ran

    Clown Baby please confirm
     
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    There is a lot of angst in Green Bay about letting him go and not utilizing him properly when he was here, but then some of the connected beat guys suggest that it is not something they lose sleep over. His stats are terrific but maybe they think perhaps personnel guys see something different.
     
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  18. lfriend

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    He was really just a much better fit for the Chargers Cover 3 system than whatever the Packers were using.
     
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    Well that explanation wasn't of much comfort when everyone wanted Capers fired
     
  20. Cornelius Suttree

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    ESPN+ top 10 safeties rankings:

    Playing safety can seem like an eight-man job in today's NFL. Several of the top players can line up at either safety spot, slot corner, outside linebacker, inside linebacker and shoot T-shirt guns into the crowd in between snaps.

    Hybrid is a tired term in NFL vernacular, but it absolutely applies to the position.

    What complicates voting is style preference: Some execs and coaches prefer the traditional free safety who covers ground, others like the game-plan wrecker who attacks sideline to sideline from the line of scrimmage.

    We attempt to meld the two styles for a compelling top 10.

    1. Jamal Adams, New York Jets
    Age: 24 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 5

    This wasn't all that close for some.

    "He's the second-best defensive player in football," said an NFC exec, placing Adams behind Aaron Donald in the pantheon.

    But Adams didn't dominate the voting in all sectors, with Vikings safety Harrison Smith pushing him for No. 1 until Adams pulled away over the final few votes.

    As a total package, Adams is undeniable. His 12 sacks are the most by a defensive back through three NFL seasons since sacks were first recorded in 1982. Last season, Adams' 17 pressures were most by a defensive back by 10, according to Next Gen Stats.

    He plays everywhere. Just check his career snap percentages: 41% at safety, 39% at outside linebacker, 12% at slot corner, 5% at outside corner and 3% at inside linebacker.

    "Superb athlete, tough, intelligent," a separate NFC exec said. "He's so competitive and physical, and it's not like with some other players with similar styles where you wouldn't play them from depth. You can play Jamal from depth."

    Fair or not, some evaluators view Adams as a wonderful safety-linebacker who wouldn't be as good if dropped into deep coverage all day.

    "He can cover but wants to make the big hit all the time," said an NFL coordinator. "The scheme would matter for him."

    Added a passing game coordinator: "He's the type of player where you put a red jersey on the scout team guy and pretend that's Jamal during practice, because you have to know where he is at all times."

    2. Harrison Smith, Minnesota Vikings
    Age: 31 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 5

    Smith is the safety prototype fresh out of the lab.

    "I'd take him over everyone," an NFL passing game coordinator said. "Does it all. Cover, blitz, zone, man, smart, calls the defense, great leader."

    The knock on Smith is he's 31. But that hasn't stopped him from being able to drop into coverage or stop the run after eight seasons.

    Since 2017, Smith has allowed 54.3% completions as the nearest defender (to rank fourth), and he's second in ball-hawk rate at 22.5%. Minnesota routinely has a stout run defense with Smith crashing down. His 89.8 Pro Football Focus rating is exceptional.

    For his career, he's sitting on 114 games, 658 tackles, 23 interceptions, 13 sacks, seven forced fumbles, eight fumble recoveries and four touchdowns off interceptions.

    "He's the most complete player at the position and has been for a while," one NFC exec said.

    3. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Steelers
    Age: 23 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 8

    Fitzpatrick got multiple first-place votes thanks to the incredible range displayed in 2019, picking off five passes along with 130 interception return yards.

    If there's a passing window to be crashed, Fitzpatrick breaks the glass.

    The second-year safety was a catalyst for the Steelers' return to defensive dominance in 2019.

    "He has a really good feel for route combinations and attacking an opponent's game plan," an NFL passing game coordinator said. "He understands angles, space and recognizing tendencies. He's a master craftsman."

    Miami drafted Fitzpatrick in 2018 as a pass-coverage weapon to be used all over the field. As a result, he played multiple positions.

    After his trade request landed him in Pittsburgh, the Steelers simplified things for him. That paid off in a big way.

    "His versatility in Miami actually held him back. He was doing too much," an NFC exec said. "Pittsburgh's fire zone asked him to play open spots, go get the ball, and he took off."

    4. Derwin James, Los Angeles Chargers
    Age: 23 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 8

    Another healthy season and James might have pushed Adams and Smith.

    James' rookie-year explosion included 3.5 sacks, 13 passes defended, three interceptions and a "Whoops, we should have drafted that guy!" from several teams who went before the Chargers' No. 17 overall in 2018.

    The second year was a letdown, mostly because many around the league wanted to see him on the field. James played five games with minimal splash because of a stress fracture of the fifth metatarsal of his right foot.

    James has the rare ability to blitz, play from depth and play in the box with a combo of smoothness and violence.

    "I'd call him modern multidimensional," one NFC exec said. "He's like the Honey Badger only built more like a linebacker with serious speed."

    A separate NFC exec called the foot issue "a bit concerning" because "it wasn't an out-of-nowhere thing," citing foot issues from high school.

    "If that doesn't linger, he'll be a great one for a long time," the exec said. "And that's what you hope because he's so electric."

    5. Kevin Byard, Tennessee Titans
    Age: 26 | Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: 10

    Pass-coverage purists love Byard, who ranked first in ball-hawk rate at 27.6% from 2017 to '19.

    "Really good athlete, really smart, always in a position to get interceptions," an AFC exec said. "He's instinctive, but he also has a plan out there to put himself in the right positions."

    Added a veteran NFL corner: "He gets the ball out of the deep middle of the field better than anyone. He's also one of the best open-field tacklers and hasn't missed a start. ... He's a free safety but covers the top tight ends man-to-man like strong safeties do. He covers a fourth wide receiver in four-open sets like a corner would."

    Coaches and players value ball disruption above almost anything else, and it's hard to argue with Byard's league-leading 17 picks over the past three years. He ran for 210 yards off those picks, good for a 12.4 average. So every time he touches the ball, he's not only giving it back to the offense, but he's providing an extra first down.

    Byard didn't get enough top-three votes to make a bigger jump on this list, but not many players visualize picks better than Byard, who says his goal is to get at least one interception every time he steps onto the field, practice or game. That's his secret. And it's worth $70 million on a five-year deal he signed last summer.

    6. Tyrann Mathieu, Kansas City Chiefs
    Age: 28 | Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Off ballot

    One of the NFL's great stories, Mathieu overcame problems at LSU to outsize his third-round billing, playing his way to two big contracts, All-Pro honors and a Super Bowl championship with Kansas City.

    Teams view Mathieu as more of a playmaker weapon than a traditional safety. Place him anywhere and he'll disrupt the offense.

    "He's a beast," an AFC exec said. "Now, if you have him on your team, you have to make sure he fits in the scheme and he's doing a lot of work at the line of scrimmage. But you can't knock him like some other players like that because he always makes plays, he makes people around him better, and great players make their teammates better."

    Some evaluators believe Mathieu isn't elite in deep coverage and is best-served at the line. One NFC exec said he has never considered Mathieu an upper-echelon player for that reason.

    Those who disagree point to the instant impact on Kansas City. In one season with the Chiefs, Mathieu produced four interceptions, 75 combined tackles and 12 pass breakups. He can sniff out a screen pass, cover for a linebacker and chase down a quarterback in the same play.

    "Maybe not a pure safety, but he's a top player at what he does," an NFL coordinator said. "It's hybrid linebacker vs. safety -- zone work, middle third, deep half -- as long as he's next to the action. Very good at playing man and either blitzing or covering. Very instinctive. Good feel."

    7. Justin Simmons, Denver Broncos
    Age: 26 | Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 8

    It's surprising the Broncos and Simmons couldn't reach a long-term deal at the franchise tag deadline, because he's the kind of modern player worth a mega-deal.

    He can play corner or safety, he can play in space, and he has great size at 6-foot-2.

    "He's so versatile because he can go down in the slot and do work for you, he can still play the deep half, and he's a talented blitzer," an NFL coordinator said. "Denver has a guy they should keep for a long time."

    Simmons lacked enough top-five votes to move up from No. 7, but Pro Football Focus' 90.7 grade indicates he should be higher. And a year from now, he probably will be.

    With Chris Harris Jr. gone, Simmons is clearly the alpha player in the Broncos' long-decorated secondary.

    8. Eddie Jackson, Chicago Bears
    Age: 26 | Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: Off ballot

    Like Fitzpatrick and Byard, Jackson exploded in his second NFL season with six interceptions and 15 pass breakups in 2018.

    He wasn't nearly as productive on the ball last year, with two interceptions and five pass breakups, but the Bears' defense wasn't as dominant as a year ago. They were transitioning from Vic Fangio to Chuck Pagano at defensive coordinator, and Jackson had to crash down more often to help with tackling.

    But Jackson is considered scheme-transcendent -- drop him in any defense and he'll find the ball.

    "He's not the most physical guy, but his ball skills are so good that you'll find a place for him in any defense," a veteran NFL defensive coach said.

    Jackson's 47.2% completion percentage allowed as nearest defender is the best in the league over the past three seasons. During that span, Jackson allowed the fewest yards per target at 5.4.

    9. Budda Baker, Arizona Cardinals
    Age: 24 | Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: Off the ballot

    Baker will spend 1,000 snaps per season playing six-to-eight different positions. He can line up at safety, outside linebacker, slot corner or as an edge defender.

    And he's looking to hit from each spot.

    "That little joker is a bullet," an NFL passing game coordinator said. "He's out there knocking bigger dudes around. He moved two running backs in a game I watched."

    The 5-foot-10, 195-pound Baker takes all challenges on the field, but the knock on him is easy -- no interceptions in three seasons.

    Baker's 52 stops were tops for defensive backs last season.

    "I know the knock, but I love the way he plays the game -- no fear," an NFC exec said.

    10. Micah Hyde, Buffalo Bills
    Age: 29 | Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: Off the ballot

    As usual, the last spot required a tiebreaker. This time, Hyde edged out Jimmie Ward and Landon Collins.

    Ward, who's basically a co-No. 10 based on the voting, is a smoother athlete, but Hyde is more complete and more durable.

    Evaluators lauded Hyde's versatility in coverage.

    "He can line up on a third receiver, a tight end or a James White-type out of the backfield," one NFL coordinator said. "There aren't a lot of guys who can do that. And he's an effective blitzer and tackler."

    Hyde's pass disruption was down in 2019 (two deflections, one interception), but his five-interception season in 2017 showed what happens when offenses test him too much. Plus, Buffalo plays a lot of quarters coverage that forces teams to throw underneath.

    The Bills rarely give up explosive plays, and Hyde is a huge reason why.

    "Not a major athlete but has great instincts and extremely smart," an NFL passing game coordinator said.

    Honorable mention
    Jimmie Ward, San Francisco 49ers: "Smooth in coverage. Watch him against the Rams last year. He was dominant. He can play all four DB spots and is great in the slot." -- NFL coordinator

    Landon Collins, Washington: "I know he's labeled a box safety and he'll never be the best in coverage, but he gives you everything else -- tackling, physicality, plays at the line, leadership." -- NFL coordinator

    Earl Thomas III, Baltimore Ravens: "Still really solid. Not what he once was, but was in better shape late in the year. Still hard-pressed to find 10 players better than Earl, even if he freelances a lot." -- NFC exec

    Devin McCourty, New England Patriots: "Still has good range, and his awareness keeps him among the best." -- veteran NFL defensive coach

    Anthony Harris, Minnesota Vikings: "He's fringe top 10. He's one of the ball-hawking safeties, but I'd probably take Simmons before him." -- NFL coordinator

    this is their last installment, no special teams
     
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    Dick shiner?
     
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    Please keep your issues after watching a Darren Mcfadden highlight tape limited to the college football thread heathen!!!!
     
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    I miss the days of elite QB, elite RB, elite DL, elite LB, elite CB, and elite S. Had a nice stew going for a couple of years :tebow:
     
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    There are pros and there are cons to have a GM that smokes bath salts before the draft. Every once in awhile he will find a nice mid round bargain, but you will also get some questionable first round selections.
     
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    So thats easy to do. Players never count beyond 10% of the cap. If you have a contract that goes over the 10% mark in some years but not others the lower years will be topped up though.
     
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    4 hall of famers on rookie deals was amazing


    And then he goes out later on and drafts a RB in round 1
     
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  33. TylerDurden

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    NFL owners who overwhelmingly support Trump, are going about the season the way he’s going about schools
     
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    ESPN+ ranked all 32 rosters, projecting for the next three years

    Bears and Jags are 31st and 32nd. Lol Ryan Pace

    I'll try to post it later when I'm much higher and won't get so frustrated by the formatting

    Bears ranked 32nd in drafting, 30th in front office and 31st at QB
     
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    Quantity: 1st, quality: 32nd
     
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    Narrator: He wasn’t.
     
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