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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by NilesIrish, Mar 4, 2019.
Nothing is easy when carbon dating shows that you literally predate balls.
this is going to be a big deal
Scranton Joe flying private? Blasphemy!
Is it? I feel like most non-Trump supporters already knew/suspected that he's a failed businessman, with ties to Russia, who cheats on his taxes. His supporters will just dismiss it as fake news. Reality doesn't matter to nearly half the country at this point.
Yeah, just like the news of him shitting on dead soldiers.
Especially when he boasted about paying no taxes during the GOP primary
guys is this where we pretend there are no low information swing voters
cause its dumb
pretty interesting. makes me think someone from the IRS leaked them.
Rich guys who vote based on their pocket book will applaud him.
Fox News will blame it on the tax code and say he followed the rules.
the idiot base will call it fake news.
I want to think it matters, but nothing yet has.
ETA: just read the whole thing, I thought the zero taxes was going to be a function of depreciation, which all rich guys do (and why they’d applaud him), but holy shit, he’s hemorrhaging actual ton loads of cash.
And yea, whoever leaked this needs to be in hiding.
I wonder what news would actually hurt him. He could announce that god is fake and they would still love him. Cult gonna cult
why do you assume that other news hasn't hurt him?
he certainly hasn't and wouldn't lose his core followers/supporters but IMO the polling has shown he's not winning undecideds and has lost traction in big demos. to me, that is the sign that a lot of the stories about him (and his general disposition) have hurt him.
He also should be embarrassed, because he's a fucking fraud, but he's a psychopath incapable of shame so he won't be.
agreed on legislators
the IRS just gets its funding cut to the bone so they can't do their job or investigate anyone, intentionally
His approval rating stays around 40 percent. You may be right it might be lower now I don’t know but it seems like it never hurts him.
if u love the irs so much why don’t u marry it
unfortunately thats illegal but i'm pretty sure with barrett she'll let me marry organizations as that's protected by the constitution
Is this the part where we insert the "I'd like to see him wiggle his way out of this one" tweet?
Or its all fraudulent
The irs has been stripped to its bones over the last three decades and more resources are dedicated to low income taxpayers than high earners now.
Guys Trump is underwater in polling. Obviously things can and have hurt him
I think we all agree that things have hurt him since his presidency started. But I think we all also agree that he's got a fairly high floor and, when looking at the polling, one could argue that he's already hit that floor.
There aren't a ton of undecideds out there and it's just tough to imagine this being the tipping point for those that do exist. Hope I'm wrong though.
Yup, this really needs to be addressed under a Biden admin.
this needs to be the part of the story that is hammered by the dems.
The refund component of the story makes it sound like he’s dead to rights on having to pay it all back (and face penalties for being a cheat). You cant right it all off only if you “abandon” the investment and get absolutely nothing from it going forward. The loss he used to get that refund, he got a 5% stake in the company that came out of BK.
Trump is also likely lying quite a bit in his returns. So let’s not just give him a pass.
Tbh I kinda want to know what the $750 was that his accountants couldn’t get out of paying
Home Alone 2 residuals.
I think the biggest angle to hammer home in messaging is that Trump owes $400+ mil in personally guaranteed loans
i need rovell to explain loans to me again before i understand if this is the best strategy
It says in the article he didn’t need to pay it. Sounds like they made up that arbitrary number so if he was ever accused of paying no taxes, he could swear under oath for example that he did pay taxes. Just a placeholder number to factually mislead the public if it ever came to that.
He can do almost anything with all the performance enhancing drugs he's on.
Honestly surprised he even paid that much, or even filed, or didn't brag about before the story broke.
he literally bragged about not paying anything. Said it made him a good businessman.
Equating to key demos is smart. As we say, people are so awful his floor is set. The only thing damaging stuff does between now and the election is maybe make some more people decide to vote or vote early.
i’m in eduation and pay $750 a month in student loans lmaoooooo
No, it’s not. Literally nothing matters.
these low iq takes are the worst
The guy has bragged about paying no taxes. NYT confirms he pays no taxes. Yeah Trump voter will surely change his mind now.
if your take is that trump will continue to trail by 8 and it won't change anything, sure fine, but that's also a win for biden
Correct, it will not change the mind of a committed Trump base voter. Core Trump base voters are not numerous enough to win the election.
My dad didn't give a fuck.
Of course he contradicted himself in the space of literally one minute and seven seconds:
4:49PM "His tax returns are not our business"
4:50PM "I think all politicians should have to release their last 30 years of tax returns"
Me: "wait so you believe he should release 30 years?"
Him: "All politicians from a county clerk to the president. Until then no"
Me: "So why is Trump not leading by example and releasing his tax returns?"
He stopped answering. Fucking dumbass.
The silence from the GOP and the handful of MAGAssholes I know is stunning. The only comment I’ve seen is from someone crying that “You people are all obsessed with Trump!”
Pretty sure they’re all just waiting on some kind of talking point.