2020 Presidential Election Thread

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Who do you support

  1. Bernie Sanders

    37.3%
  2. Elizabeth Warren

    36.6%
  3. Kamala Harris

    2.5%
  4. Pete Buttigieg

    11.0%
  5. Corey Booker

    0.8%
  6. Beto O'Rourke

    1.0%
  7. Julian Casto

    0.8%
  8. Andrew Yang.

    8.9%
  9. Joe Biden

    22.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
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  1. BUstang

    BUstang Lawyer

    *I AM NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL LAW LAWYER OR ELECTION LAW LAWYER. I AM JUST A LAWYER*

    PA is absolutely a Trump lock. Now that I appreciate the issue between the law concerning ballot counting deadlines versus the State Supreme Court extending that deadline and date-stamping envelopes, the United States Supreme Court will undoubtedly invalidate this practice. It will issue an order establishing that any ballot counted after the deadline set by the legislature is null and void. I do not agree with this but I believe that result is almost a certainty at this point. Kavanaugh especially is biting at the bit to establish the Supreme Court as the arbiter of ballot counting, as suggested originally in Bush v. Gore. It's incredibly interesting at a constitutional law level to see how a conservative court will create the most extensive level of federal oversight over elections that our country has ever seen. That paradigm shift is fundamentally and completely different than the state sovereignty ideals conservative justices used to adhere to. In prior generations, a conservative court wouldn't even accept cert on this let alone hear arguments and render a decision. Bush v. Gore was an aberration; an anomaly. Chief Justice Roberts quietly regretted ever authoring that opinion and the Court has tried to distance itself from it. Now, it will serve as the foundation for a new era of federal-level policing over state courts and legislatures.

    What's most sad about this is Pennsylvania knew MONTHS ahead about this issue and they couldn't get their shit together to fix it at the legislature level. Hundreds of thousands of peoples' vote will not count in Pennsylvania.

    Mark my words, quote me, etc. Arizona and Nevada or Georgia are absolute must-wins for Biden.
     
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  2. Daniel Ocean

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    i think Penn has 20 EC votes so it would get him to 273 now that Michigan has been called.
     
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  3. vander02

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    Brothers, we are the same. AZ + GA badly want in on the winning team now and going forward
     
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  4. IanBoyd

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    Doesn't even need Nevada.
     
  5. Duck2013

    Duck2013 Fake Ass Teeth
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    Of everyone in the conservative movement. Thats the guy whos ass i want to kick the most. What a monster.
     
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  6. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
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    think the SC rules that way if the GOP wins the senate? i feel like they'd know dems won't be able to pass anything if the GOP owns the senate, so they may punt on that case (in my dreams)
     
  7. Beeds07

    Beeds07 Bitch, it's Saturday
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    I mean I didn't read the rest because your original premise is flawed, but if you're wrong I'll come back and read the rest.
     
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  8. Josey Wales

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    Ah bc of Arizona.
     
  9. vander02

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    Have to really thank Ducey for appointing her, right after she became the first AZ R to lose a Senate race in 30 years... in a year where Ducey himself was like +13
     
  10. sem

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    Didn’t Dems in PA try to fix the issue but were fought tooth and nail on it?
     
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  11. Lyrtch

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    then we burn down the supreme court
     
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  12. Josey Wales

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    His actual premise is if it’s left to pa then the gop will steal it.
     
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  13. Corch

    Corch Hmm surprised you didn't know that
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    The secretary of whatever in Pennsylvania said Friday but it could be much sooner.

    Reading the tea leaves, late tonight or early tomorrow
     
  14. Daniel Ocean

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    I thought you were married. You’ll have have to blue yourself if you want to be blue.
     
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  15. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    yeah we know about Kavanaugh. Does he have 4 friends willing to completely sever any remaining dignity they have as SCOTUS Justices?

    And I mean, completely? I have no doubt ACB would and Gorsuch might, but then?
     
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  16. theregionsitter

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    McSally low key might cost Trump the election she was so bad
     
  17. Beeds07

    Beeds07 Bitch, it's Saturday
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    Oh, I read it as Trump was a lock to win it.

    Still won't read. Thanks for calling my bluff.
     
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  18. Fran Tarkenton

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    it would be the first thing anything Ive ever remotely been associated with winning anything of value since 1995

    I hardly know these feels
     
  19. Jean-Ralphio

    Jean-Ralphio A real toe-tapper
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    thats the sex number!
     
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  20. BUstang

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    Alito, Thomas, ACB, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh. Thomas will author it.
     
  21. IanBoyd

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    No, he doesn't even need Zona either. with Michigan called PA is all he needs.

    It was the gameplan heading in to begin with, all he needed was to rebuild the "blue wall" states that Hilary lost that everyone thought was in the bag in 2016.

    He's already 2/3 there now with Wisconsin and Michigan, get PA and he doesn't need to flip another Trump state.
     
  22. Fusiontegra

    Fusiontegra My life is dope and I do dope shit.#SparedByThanos
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    Check the poll at the top of this thread for your answer.
     
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  23. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
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    nice
     
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  24. NYGator

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    I would love to rail on them, but as close as this race has been, that is not an objective measure of failure. Who is to say that it wouldn't have been even worse without them? It also doesn't measure the enthusiasm they generated in Dem's or Independent voters that the persuaded. These black and white takes are really frustrating.
     
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  25. Connor Norman

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    Tight. Very tight.
     
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  26. Daniel Ocean

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    no with Michigan he is at 253 Penn gets him to 273 with nothing else.
     
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  27. Mix

    Mix I deserve to be blown before the Jacuzzi
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    My uncle is a prof there so this is basically all my doing.
     
  28. bwi2

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    Have they counted a single ballot that arrived today? In other words, I thought the current projections were all based upon ballots cast or returned by yesterday.
     
  29. Where Eagles Dare

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    PA feels so much different than Fla in 2000. They are just counting votes now. There isn't a recount. There aren't discovered ballots. There aren't issues with a butterfly ballot fucking up votes.

    They just countin
     
  30. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
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    most places were silo'ing the late ballots and not counting or even putting them in the systems

    so yes all the prognostications are about the vote that exists currently
     
  31. citrodong

    citrodong We're a cold fucking bean team.
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    Where the fuck is georgia. I need to see 2 runoffs.
     
  32. BUstang

    BUstang Lawyer

    The issue isn't counting. The issue is the state supreme court usurped a deadline created by the legislature. That's the wrinkle that will invalidate the ballots.
     
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  33. laxjoe

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  34. Gallant Knight

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    i only want old white guys opinion on this issue
     
  35. Tobias

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    they're just counting ballots that arrived before election day tho. i get assuming the worst but they arent going to throw those out
     
  36. Gustavo Fring

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    nice nice nice nice

     
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  37. Can I Spliff it

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    I'm sorry I said anything mean about you guys except for Tom Brady
     
  38. nofatchildren

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    the only votes being counted in PA were received before the Election Day deadline. all late arriving votes are sequestered and counted separately later on. if Biden is ahead after the initial count is finished, then none of that will matter.
     
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  39. Ralph

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    Eric Trump going all "fraud" and "cheat" and "corruption" live on Fox right now.
     
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  40. Where Eagles Dare

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    and as mentioned those 8pm votes are being put aside. The 1.4mm outstanding that they are still counting all arrived yesterday before the polls closed/8pm
     
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  41. dtx

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    lol

     
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  42. PeterGriffin

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    And what is the deadline set by the legislature to count the votes? Hint: it isn’t Election Day, it’s November 23rd.
     
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  43. bwi2

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    I feel, without reading any of the arguments, that any valid ballot received by yesterday is bulletproof. I can see five votes against accepting ballots that arrive between today and Friday, but if he’s going to win based upon what came in the mail by yesterday, it’s an academic argument.
     
  44. SmoochieWallace

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    [​IMG]
     
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  45. BUstang

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    Correct. I think it is a pipe dream to think Biden will win on those alone. I hope I am wrong. My analysis assumes the severed votes getting counted.
     
  46. Henry Blake

    Henry Blake No Springsteen is leaving this house!

    Getting GA would be a nice insurance policy against PA fuckery.
     
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  47. indeed

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    Feeling better about PA

     
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  48. Where Eagles Dare

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    Kamala, come get this fucker and send him to the Gulag
     
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  49. slogan119

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    Kavanaugh, ACB, and Gorsuch know it will be their heads on pikes
     
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  50. Connor Norman

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    MLS Cup not mean anything to you?
     
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