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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Corch, Jan 12, 2021.
It helped them build up to that in the ‘70s and ‘80s when that definitely was not the case.
Definitely (no clue how much Nebraska was on TV then but I’m guessing significantly more than most). That and being able to dole out more scholarships and hoard guys.
Prior to 1984, the NCAA controlled all access to televised games. They loosened restrictions in 1981, but prior to that, there were 8 weeks with a national game and 5 weeks where the NCAA allowed regional broadcasts.
MSU was a good gig for 5 years in the early 2010s otherwise it’s been an irrelevant program since color tv was invented.
Color TV was invented in 1953.
MSU has easier access to talent and has shown a more recent ability to be a top 10-level program in the current era. Nebraska is in a much easier division and still has a significantly bigger national football brand than MSU. Different people are going to view those things differently depending on what you're looking for as far as coaches are concerned.
Nebraska has better fans by a factor of about a trillion.
Hey. Suck our dicks.
How did we go so quickly from “in no way comparable” and “objectively not even a little bit close” to showing a bunch of stats showing that the programs have been fairly comparable under their last couple of coaches?
And then we’re trying to distinguish between “ancient history” and “old, but not ancient history” to determine which is objectively a better job in 2021?
In the current landscape, they’re both probably third or fourth tier jobs with the ability to pop if everything aligns perfectly.
I've done the research and this is mostly correct.
Nebraska seemed to get a decent amount of local talent on the OL—Dave Rimington, Dean Steinkuhler, Will Shields. Those guys were all All Americans in the glory years and recruited in Nebraska or neighboring state.
Was curious who had been at their schools since before 2010...
Solich still doing his thing at Ohio after all these years is fun. Whittingham being at Utah made me realize that Urban has now won 3 national titles, retired twice and is now coaching in the NFL while the guy who replaced him at Utah is still there. That's improbable.
It's also apparently a pretty secure gig to coach at a service academy.
Don’t leave out that Urban also worked for 2 different companies doing TV
Other than Fitzgerald’s junior and senior years at Northwestern in 1995-96 and Fitzgerald’s coaching career post-2006, Northwestern had not finished a season ranked since 1948.
Who is favored to win the West this year? Wisconsin?
#Penn State Nittany Lions
Thoughts on Tim Banks taking the Tennessee DC job?
Heupel went after OSU LB coach Al Washington too, which would have sucked for us.
I think I can sum it up best with
Trust the plan, trust in staff I always say
We were terrified JF may eventually give him the DC job if Pry moved on to a head job somewhere. He was good recruiting Michigan. Other than that we call him the faceless man because he’s never seen anywhere.
What is the vibe with Yurcich?
He was only with OSU for a year and Day had total control over the aspects of the offense he was staffed to coach.
I was indifferent on him leaving OSU, but I am interested to see if he attempts to open up the Penn State passing game.
Our safety play has been pretty poor for years now so it’s hard to see what Heupel saw in his coaching acumen. He was an excellent recruiter in the Detroit area but kind of seemed like we were destined to lose ground there with that HS coach joining Michigan’s staff anyway.
Not an ideal time to need to find a new coach though. I don’t see it as a devastating loss but I think you can spin it either way if you really want to. I much prefer him being UT’s DC than ever being ours.
Ohio State missed this cycle in hiring.
Greg Mattison and his $1.1 million salary retired on the defensive side.
Instead of hiring a DB coach to help with the 126/130 pass defense in the country, we promoted a former 2012-13 grad assistant Parker Fleming, who flamed out at Texas State when their coach was fired and was working quality control instead of coaching somewhere. He has no defense experience and presumably will coach special teams.
We did bring former ISU coach Paul Rhoads and former Vandy coach Todd Fitch on as analysts. Rhoads has been DC or DBs at Arkansas, UCLA and Arizona since left ISU.
This is one of those situations where it would be interesting to know more about why it worked out that way and why he left.
The range could be from the low of "Day expected Yurich to do a lot more, found that he couldn't and then asked him to leave after the season" to the high of "Day really wanted to control the whole thing, Yurich didn't want to stay like that and left on his own."
Yurcich was rumored to be difficult to work with, and my sense is that Day never gave up the QB/passing game responsibility he was hired to coach.
We promoted Urban Meyer’s son in law Corey Dennis to replace Yurcich. Dennis was reportedly very involved in landing QB recruit Ewers, but he certainly wasn’t hired for his coaching resume.
It was a lot like when Alex Grinch stopped by for a year and left to Oklahoma. A lot of indifferent, whatever, he they left.
I wish Michigan the best, as they try to find 85 scholarship players to fill a 2021 roster. Quarterbacks are overrated anyway.
scUM should start that jersey thing the Browns used to do.
What a run
I'd transfer too if this natural born leader stood in my path.
If there's one thing I'm sure of, it's that the Michigan football community really learned their lesson this time and won't hype the next guy so much.
Getting a total of four starts in four years out of Milton and McCaffrey before they both transferred is a next level train wreck. Maybe they were both going to suck, but it would have been nice to see a bigger sample.
I also don't get why Milton would leave now. If he didn't think he could beat out Cade McNamara or a true FR for the job, I'm not sure where he's going that gives him a better chance to play.
Are you familiar with the qb situation at Michigan State?
Good of Milton to transfer the week before spring practice starts. Now we can get the JJ McCarthy September Heisman campaign started even earlier than usual.
Are you guys upset that you're losing the next Cam Newton?
Knowing our luck he transfers and is the next Cam Newton.
Then Cade McNamara hits the transfer portal in May.
or Joe Burrow
Can you blame him? Took one look at the next Steve Young* and realized he’ll never play another down.
* reserve the right to choose another white HOF QB for future comparison
The rules are pretty clear that Steve Young can only be compared to other white left handed QBs.
JJ is pretty clearly the next Montana.
Thanks for ruining the “JJ McCarthy threw spring practice TDs with his right and left hand” portion of our hype campaign. Jerk.