2021 CFB Talk - Joe Paterno was a good guy (Bo was not better)....except for

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  1. Phil Brickma

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    That was really hard to read, but once I heard the interview, I get it.
     
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    Yeah, but he still hasn’t gotten 16 sacks in the SEC.
     
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  7. TC

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    Do you have an inferiority complex or something?
     
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    4th String QB is about to make $1,000,000

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    When I think about the NIL marketplace, I'm typically most interested in the dealmaking process for non-P5 football players. After all, the majority of college athletes do not play quarterback for Ohio State, and don't have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of social media followers. Most of those athletes have a few thousand followers on Instagram, and want to spend a few hours a week on NIL deals. How they find deals, what those deals are worth, and what that experience is like for athlete, school and brand is of major interest to this newsletter.

    But you know what? Some athletes DO play quarterback for Ohio State. And it turns out, that could be worth a LOT of money. Or at least it is for one athlete.

    On Tuesday, ESPN reported that Buckeye quarterback Quinn Ewers signed a $1.4 million dollar NIL deal with GT Sports Marketing. The three-year contract with GT Sports Marketing is for autographs. Earlier this offseason, Ewers announced a deal with Holy Kombucha, which will pay him both cash and equity. He'll almost assuredly secure other NIL deals, if he wants them, this season.

    The $1.4 million is an eye-popping number, but hey, that's spread out over three seasons, and Ewers will almost assuredly need to give a chunk of that deal to his agents. But still, depending on the value of that Kombucha equity, there's a good chance Ewers clears a million bucks in NIL money this season.

    That's especially remarkable because I didn't say Ewers was a starting quarterback for Ohio State. He's not. He's the fourth string quarterback, one who was just in high school a few weeks ago, and one that is unlikely to play at all this season.

    Of course, Ewers isn't your typical fourth string quarterback.
    Ewers wasn't just the top QB recruit in the class of 2022, a consensus five-star from every rating service. When he reclassified a few weeks ago to get to campus a year early, so he could actually take advantage of NIL deals (Texas state law prohibits HS athletes from earning NIL money, along with Illinois and Mississippi), he immensely became the top ranked recruit, regardless of position, in the class of 2021.

    Ewers has a 247 Sports Composite Ranking of 1.000, the highest possible ranking. According to the 247 Sports All Time Recruit rankings, just five other recruits have recorded that high a ranking, and the only other quarterback to do it was Vince Young, who turned out to be pretty good. For comparison's sake, Trevor Lawrence was a 0.9999.

    He's already got over 105K followers on Instagram, one of the largest accounts of any college athlete. So Ewers isn't a typical case. He's one of the biggest recruits, from the biggest stage, playing the biggest position, at perhaps the single biggest brand, in all college football.

    Still...isn't this a lot of money for somebody who isn't going to play? Isn't this pretty risky?
    That's a good question.

    Recruiting rankings absolutely correlate with team success, but they're not perfect by any means, especially at quarterback. After all, a team can only play one QB, and injuries, immaturity, poor coaching, and a slew of other factors could derail the career of even the most promising prospect.

    Let's take the 2018 class, for example. Your top three QBs? Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and JT Daniels. Lawrence and Fields had exceptional college careers and became first round draft picks. Daniels went to USC, got injured, transferred to Georgia, and looked very promising near the end of last season. He'll be on the short list of top college QBs heading into this year.

    The next five-star on that list? Dorian Thompson-Robinson of UCLA, who has had a decidedly up and down college career so far. Justin Rodgers, the next five star, went to TCU, transferred to UNLV and might not even start there.

    Take a look at the 2016 class. How many of those top ten QBs had a strong career at their first school. Two?

    Even among the absolute elite of the elite, success is no guarantee. The top three QB recruits ever, Young, Lawrence and Fields, all had outstanding college careers. The 4th? Brock Berlin, of Florida and Miami. Other elite-elite QB prospects included guys like Shea Patterson, Ben Olson, Kyle Wright and Russell Shepard.

    If history is any guide here, Ewers is very likely to be a productive college QB, if he can stay healthy. But there's certainly no guarantee it happens at Ohio State (the Buckeye QB room already has another five-star and two other high four-star recruits). Taking a redshirt season now is fine and good, but if companies are willing to pay you $750,000 now, are you going to be willing to be patient and wait for playing time? Will the brands? And how will the actual starting QB for the Buckeyes, CJ Stroud, react, if he doesn't make Ewers-money this season despite, you know, actually playing the games?

    The NIL market for a very-high level P5 QB appears to be set at or near a million bucks. Will that be sustained?
    I think it's difficult to argue that an elite QB isn't worth seven figures to a championship-contending team, given the revenues at stake should a team win a national title...but the athletic department isn't paying the athlete. Brands are, and we're told that brands are trying to get returns on their investments in NIL deals.

    Will marketing companies be gun shy about dropping seven figures on autograph deals if a few prospects don't pan out? Are these deals not actually as lucrative as the headlines made them appear? Will the market expand into other industries, pushing contracts up? Will more agents try to get more involved in the college space?

    I'm not totally sure for now. I am reasonably confident the bottom and middle of the NIL market will rise as more pricing inefficiencies are settled and more athletes and brands enter the marketplace. I don't know what will happen at the top.

    All I know is that's a lot of money for an athlete who probably won't throw a pass this season, and is not guaranteed to throw passes for a championship contending team in 2022. But hey, it's not my money.
     
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    According to people with knowledge of the deal (IanBoyd) he's not likely to see that all of that cash
     
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    The $1.4 million is an eye-popping number, but hey, that's spread out over three seasons, and Ewers will almost assuredly need to give a chunk of that deal to his agents. But still, depending on the value of that Kombucha equity, there's a good chance Ewers clears a million bucks in NIL money this season.
     
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    And a few years ago they put Terelle Pryor under the jail for trading tattoos and jerseys. Smh
     
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  14. Corch

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    Muhhhhhhh S-E-C
     
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  15. Prospector

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    no they didn't. they played after promising to take their coach's "punishment" in the spring.
    They went pro
     
  16. Corch

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    Everyone but Pryor came back and served a suspension (I believe it was five games)
     
  17. Prospector

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    well fuck! I'm keeping my story anyway
    fucking cheaters
     
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  19. Dump

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    Why not just step down now

     
  20. IrishLAX2

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    His only chance of coaching the next 11 games?
     
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    1. Bama
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    3. Ohio State
    4. UCLA
    5. A&M
    6. Iowa
    7. Penn State
    8. Cincinnati
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    t10. Oregon
    t10. Oklahoma
     
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  22. Tex

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  23. TeeDee

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    Red River Rivalry is in Austin this year :iseeu:
     
  24. Tex

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    What
     
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  25. TeeDee

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    Florida is probably top ten with Anthony Richardson. Mullen will stick with Emory though so disregard.
     
  26. TeeDee

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    I think it's going to be interesting to see that line when the time comes is all. I liked what I saw in Sark's debut, and Chip Long carved up Oklahoma with 2 stars.

    Edit: Nvm I'm an idiot, I thought it went to home and home a few years ago for some reason. Still, point stands about the game.
     
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    This confused the hell out of me haha
     
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  28. Fran Tarkenton

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    you've got to love their outlook for 2022 at QB and skill spots (all depends on the OL)
     
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    1. Bama
    2. Georgia
    3. Ohio State
    4. Oklahoma
    5. A&M
     
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    TOP 5, BITCHES
     
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  33. buckwild

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    No clue if it's true...but, was told by someone in the industry that McShay has some facial paralysis condition that has been flaring and that's why he has been slurring his words. Maybe that's wrong and he has a booze problem, but that's what I was told.
     
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    Sad. You could tell something was physically wrong with him
     
  36. The Banks

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    Enjoy the fall
     
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  38. TC

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    Top 10 Cincy. Wowzers
     
  39. Constant

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    There have to be blank checks waiting out there for Fickell.

    Unless there's some tacit understanding that the OSU job is his if he waits until Day goes to the NFL, he's gonna be everyone's top target.
     
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    Is there a thread on Todd McShay. Looked in rough shape over the wknd and now taking some time off.



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  41. Corch

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    Oof. I didn't watch the game he did this weekend. He looks awful
     
  42. Constant

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  43. Jimmy the Saint

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    His entire career has been spent in Ohio except when he briefly played for the Saints. I think he likes it there (fucking weirdo) and doesn't want to just uproot his family for just any seemingly bigger opportunity based on a lot of what's been written about him at Cincinnati.

    He's in a pretty good spot with where he has the program, appears to have great job security, and now they appear headed to the Big 12. Aside from OSU I imagine there are at least a few other opportunities he'd entertain if they came open but much like Petersen at Boise State, I think he's content to wait for the perfect fit.
     
  44. Gritty Badger

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    McShay had a rough bout with Covid that really fucked him up might be related
     
  45. PAHokie

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    Could be some Bell’s palsy, heard that’s been a side affect to some Covid stuff.
     
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    Glad he's taking time off to better. Homeboy didn't look good at all Saturday
     
  47. Fran Tarkenton

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    #2, the same amount of rushing yards Clemson had Saturday.
     
  48. Owsley

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  49. RalfBully

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    He missed the draft because of COVID supposedly, but this is from last November



    this was last wknd



    doesn’t seem good
     
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  50. TC

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    Dick comment, but how come Lee Corso won’t do the same thing. So painful to watch him talk on tv. You don’t have to go out to pasture man, you just need to leave national broadcasting to someone in full command of their abilities