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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by HotMic, Feb 3, 2019.
they are some bad hombres
Just want to wish the #North Carolina Tarheels congrats on landing elite CB Tony Grimes.
What a mess
Congratulations UNC. The next few years should be fun. I'm hopeful Louisville, FSU, and Miami will pull their head out of their asses, just like y'all have done.
Not that I know of
We feel pretty good about Arnold. Nate Oats is helping us recruit him as well and he'd be able to play on the basketball team
Lol at him actually playing basketball. But I do thi k y'all lead. If not bama, fsu probably lands him
We told G'Quincy McInistry and Michael Trigg they could play both
It ain't too big of a deal. He wouldnt take up a scholarship spot. We're doing the same with Koolaid Mckinstry
I'm sure y'all told them that, but it doesn't matter. They won't at any s hook. Trigg is kind shit a basketball and Arnold isn't that good.
I mean every school telling him he can do both, tbh. We have our best basketball recruiter on him too.
McInistry could probably play for us, but he's going to bama. I don't know what kind of player Trigg is. We don't really need another TE in this class, so I don't know why we'd be blowing a bunch of smoke at him.
There is a 22 kid from Tallahassee that bama has offered a football and basketball scholarship. His step dad said the kid knows the basketball scholarship is just bullshit. Apparently he and Arnold are pretty close.
Tom Loy getting his vengeance
Mack is awesome. I’m sure it’s been discussed but I just realized he’s the same age as Saban. Crazy.
I'll take any help we can get at TE
Nice thread on our home board comparing UNC’s recruiting efforts to Ole Miss under Freeze. Tick tock!
As Coach Swinney does, I value football and equality. He truly is a great leader of men.
Seems like Caleb Williams dominating is the lone consensus
they are still mad about criswell i see
I'd rather punch myself in the dick than read the live updates thread on 247 again
Never heard of him
Grimes choosing to play in the best conference is not surprising. He will have a chance to play against the best program in the country.
kid wants to go to LSU from what I’ve heard and I know someone pretty tight to him.
pretty relieved grimes chose UNC. was worried that if he chose uga or atm his dad would have him in the transfer portal after a few years and UVA would have to pass again.
Kyle McCord just won the pro day competition with a score of 45. Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement and support throughout this event.
A few have inboxed me and, yes, this is in fact the second year in a row a Buckeye commit has won this event.
there's a rumor out there that ty thompson had a wind-adjusted 51
i'm not saying that he did.. but i've heard it.
Last night’s top scores:
As for me, I refuse to get my Elite 11 updates from anyone other than the Woodman.
Update: I’ll also allow updates from John Garcia, Jr. and Parker Thune.
247's rankings. What does Alpha Dog mean?
Ranking the pro day performances from the Elite 11
ByANDREW IVINS 6 hours ago
The second day of the Elite 11 Finals featured a mock pro day workout. That meant each of the 20 quarterbacks invited to Nashville made 20 scripted throws to moving targets under the lights.
The quarterbacks received a score of a 3, 2, 1 or a 0 depending on where each ball ended up. A 3 is a ball that would hit the receiver in the face if the hands weren't in the way. A 2 is a ball that is within the receiver’s frame. A 1 on the other hand is a ball that requires some work on the receiver's end while a 0 is a ball that is ruled uncatchable.
Ohio State freshman quarterback CJ Stroud holds the record for the highest pro day score at the Elite 11 Finals as he rolled up a 50 that last summer en route to taking home MVP honors at the event.
247Sports has some top performers from Tuesday's session below.
Ty Thompson, Oregon commit – While Thompson's 39 was only the third highest score of the night, he had arguably the most impressive performance of the bunch. The Top247 talent out of Gilbert (Az.) Mesquite was the first quarterback to go once the wind picked up and he didn't let the unfavorable conditions bother him as he used his arm strength to make a number of college-level throws. Thompson, who has one of the bigger frames out of the quarterbacks in attendance, was not only fluid with his drops, but looked comfortable on his rollouts and flashed the ability to make difficult off-platform throws look relatively easy. The future Duck was in rhythm and more importantly in control of the situation as he marched down the field with a sense of urgency. He's someone that is making a strong case to move up in the rankings after two days of competition.
Spoiler: the unwashed masses
Kyle McCord, Ohio State commit – The Elite 11 staff marked McCord down for a 45 which gave him the highest score of the night. The Philadelphia (Pa.) St. Joseph standout was one of the only quarterbacks that seemed to actually get better as the pro day went on as he ended up hitting seven of his last eight throws including the difficult "rail shot." The Top247 recruit had a clean release and never really forced anything. He was confident and accurate with his ball placement.
Drake Maye, North Carolina commit – After struggling Monday, Maye quickly turned things around on Tuesday. He put plenty of touch on his deep balls and showcased his velocity when asked to put some pace on balls over the middle. We have seen the Charlotte (NC) Myers Park signal caller turn it on in pressure situations before, so it shouldn't be all that surprising that the Top247 signal caller posted a 40, which was good enough for the second-highest score of the night.
Carlos Del Rio, Florida commit – Del Rio was one of the last quarterbacks to go. The four-star out of Loganville (Ga.) Grayson had probably the most highlight-worthy throws of the entire night as he used a live arm to squeeze the ball into tight windows. Del Rio in the past has been billed as the type of quarterback that will need plenty of time to develop as a passer before he's ready to take snaps in college, but he showed Tuesday that he's more than just a bruising runner.
Brock Vandagriff, Georgia commit – Vandagriff was one of the quarterbacks that started off hot and then faded a little down the stretch. The five-star from Bogart (Ga.) Prince Avenue Christian School excelled with the intermediate stuff and was able to connect on a handful of the longer routes. He has more of a wind up then most of the other quarterbacks in attendance, but is solid with the mechanics and was more accurate than a majority of his peers.
Miller Moss, USC commit – The fourth-highest scorer of the night was Moss, who totaled a 38. The Los Angeles native, who recently announced that he will play his senior season at Santa Ana Mater Dei, was one of the more polished quarterbacks. He let a few balls get away from him, but displayed above-average arm strength and seemed to grasp the route concepts better than anyone else which allowed him to be efficient in the pocket.
Tyler Macon, Missouri commit – Macon might not drop back often at East St. Louis (Ill.) High, but he looked like a natural going through his progressions and stepping up to make a throw. He also proved to be one of the more accurate passers on the run which is likely what helped him total a 37 on the Elite 11's official score sheet. Not bad for someone that has rushed for over 1,500 yards the past two season as the high school level.
Caleb Williams – Williams' performance was rather disappointing. The nation's No. 1 ranked quarterback came out hot and placed ball exactly where it needed to be on his first couple throws, but he appeared to grow frustrated with himself after he missed a pair of targets to his left. There's no question that the Washington (DC) Gonzaga is an elite talent, but he didn't have his best stuff on Tuesday which was evident by his score of a 34. Williams is set to pick between Oklahoma, Maryland and LSU on July 4th.
Behren Morton, Texas Tech commit – Morton has one of the more interesting deliveries in Nashville this week as it's almost a three-quarter release, but he makes it work as he takes different angles to get the ball out quickly. His graceful footwork is what really jumped out as he turned in a rather solid performance aside from a few times where he missed behind the receiver that was working its way across the field. The Top247 talent attends Eastland (Texas) High.
J.J. McCarthy, Michigan commit – Almost no wants to be the first quarterback to go through pro day as everyone wants to see how exactly things will be run, but McCarthy actually volunteered to go first. He looked crisp for someone that wasn't all that familiar with the routes and was able to put plenty of zip on the ball. The future Wolverine, who will play this fall at Bradenton (Fla.) IMG Acadmey, ended up scoring a 34 which tied for ninth.
Kyron Drones, Baylor commit – Drones is an intriguing prospect with a high ceiling. The three-star is still raw and learning the finer points on how to play quarterback, but he made some impressive throws Tuesday as he was able to push the ball down the field in windy conditions. The 16-year-old led Pearland Shadow Creek to state title in Texas last season in his first year as a starter.
247Sports' Steve Wiltfong, Charles Powers and Greg Biggins contributed to this report.
He ever mention why arnold never got on the field at FSUHS?
shits crazy to me, Travis Jay is the only legit 2 sport athlete to come out of this area since Nubbs McDaniel turned down 70 million from the brewers to be a back up DT for us
Nobody comes here for prep hoops talent
Is there a stat/rankings for how the QBs does with 3 free blitzers and dickhands on 50% of the receiving options?
that's really the only relevant statistic for my top squadron
Nope, but I'd be curious to know what your heard.
Also, is tre Donaldson any good?
Rankings after Day 2.
Kyron Drones is a good name.
JJ McCarthy should try squatting or deadlifting or doing some god damn neck exercises!! Put some tren in a weight gainer smoothie 9 times a day idk. Hard to watch that gangly mf try and throw on the run. Almost as bad as Tyler Buchners sidearm rip he learned on the lacrosse field. McCord apparently is the finest qb with a jaw that could stop a train - so humble about his craft despite being touched by st Michael the archangel of Raw talent Not to mention being a wide shouldered lord of war at 6’3.5 vs 5’11 and 3/4 176 lbs that some other qbs have officially weighed in at per sources!!!
Lot of great banter all around hard to put a price on it!! Especially on the forums!!
glad we dodged that Drake Maye bullet
These elite 11 coaches lists are way different than the football experts
Brock not even listed by the football experts.
I’ve seen him on the SI, 247 and the most superior list
3H AGO FOOTBALL
Woody's World: Thoughts from Day 2 of Elite 11 QB Competition
Woody Wommack • Rivals.com
MURFREESBORO, Tenn. – After an extended shutdown that scrapped most spring evaluation events, athletes from across the country are returning to the field to make up for lost time. That was the case on Tuesday in the Nashville area, where many of the nation's top quarterbacks gathered to compete in the annual Elite 11 event, which will be held over three days.
Here are some thoughts from Tuesday night's action, which featured the quarterbacks competing in a mock pro day competition. Rivals.com's Woody Wommack was on hand and shares his thoughts and observations.
DAY TWO RANKINGS
We might as well get right into the good stuff as day two featured the pro day competition, which was scored by coaches on the field. Ohio State's Kyle McCord came away with the top prize and looked very impressive, but after him at No. 1 is where I differ in opinion in my rankings. Not only were some of my scores different on individual throws, but I'm also factoring in other aspects outside of just the completed result of the pass.
1. Kyle McCord (Ohio State commit) -- As I said, this was an easy one as McCord worked his way down the field in impressive fashion, making several big-time throws and drawing praise from the coaches an onlookers alike. McCord isn't a very demonstrative guy so it's easy for him to slide under the radar but there was no missing his special performance on Tuesday night.
2. Carlos Del Rio (Florida commit) -- When the final results were released I was shocked that Del Rio not only didn't finish first, that he was actually seventh in the final scoring. He did miss a couple of throws over the middle, but he didn't hold back at all and was very impressive on several different routes. Del Rio came into the event ready and it's paying off in a major way.
3. J.J. McCarthy (Michigan commit) -- McCarthy led off the night and gets credit for stepping up and going early. One thing he's really improved and showed off on Tuesday is his ability to throw on the move. During one throw he bumped into the coach simulating the pass rush and despite being off balance he delivered a throw down the field and right on the money. McCarthy finished ninth in the official scoring.
4. Ty Thompson (Oregon commit) -- I ranked Thompson No. 1 yesterday and he came out today and impressed once again. He missed a few throws early but once he got into a groove he was very impressive. His confidence appears to be growing as the event moves along and I think he's proven to himself and others that he belongs with the top quarterbacks in the class. Thompson finished third in the official scoring.
5. Caleb Williams -- The nation's top-ranked quarterback was impressive once again and he always carries himself like he's the best player on the field. I like his confidence and swagger and that attitude also helps him shake off any errant throws and move on quickly. Through two days, Williams has lived up to his five-star billing. Williams finished 10th in the official scoring.
6. Brock Vandagriff (Georgia commit) -- This was a tough one for me because Vandagriff was as sharp as any quarterback during the first half of his throws, delivering it on the money and also showing great arm strength and the ability to throw on the move. But as it went along it seemed like he ran out of gas and that led to some mistakes and misfires. I've always been a fan of Vandagriff's talent, but was hoping to see more consistency in this setting. Vandagriff finished outside of the top 10 in the official scoring.
7. Garrett Nussmeier (LSU commit) -- From my vantage point there wasn't a quarterback who was more happy with his performance than Nussmeier, who walked away with a big smile on his face after an impressive showing. He got off to a rough start, including having a ball slip backward out of his hand. But he dialed it in and was very effective, especially in the red zone. Nussmeier finished eighth in the official scoring.
8. Miller Moss (USC commit) -- If I were grading just on accuracy alone, Moss would probably be higher on the list but I felt like he held a little back, especially when it came to arm strength. He made sure his passes were on the money and that helped his score, but fortune favors the bold so I would have tolerated a few more misses if I got to see Moss really put some serious arm strength behind his passes. Moss finished fourth in the official scoring.
9. Drake Maye (North Carolina commit) -- When the scores were released I was pretty shocked to see Maye finish No. 2 overall, but after going back and watching the video afterward I can see how he put up such a good score. Maye showed nice arm strength but it was interesting to see him struggle at times when throwing on the move, especially considering he has excelled in that aspect when I've seen him in the past.
10. Tyler Macon (Missouri commit) -- Macon really impressed me with his ability to push the ball down the field and make big-time throws at the second and third levels. If it weren't for a few misses on short throws he might have finished even higher than his final spot of fifth in the official scoring.
11. Kaidon Salter (Tennessee commit) -- Salter probably made the biggest improvement from Day 1 to Day 2 and he really benefited from the pro day format, which allowed him to get in a groove. He throws a pretty ball and did a nice job showing his arm on deeper throws as well. He finished sixth in the official scoring.
The rest: A few guys that just missed out and had good showings were FSU commit Luke Altmyer and uncommitted three-star Maddox Kopp. Kopp has helped his stock as much as any quarterback at the even thus far.
I take it back, SI is certainly head and shoulders above the rest in terms of QB evaluations as boo has already pointed out
Drake ranking is obviously UNC fatigue starting to settle in