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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by MG2, Jan 3, 2021.
This is a terrible Lynn take if you watched a single Chargers game this season.
Oh no jags
Defensive coaches have to get pissed at how easy it is for anyone associated with a successful offense/QB/coach to get a HC opportunity compared to them (no offense to Brady, who might one day be a fine HC).
Won’t he be just another BOB?
He's not the coach, so not really. People are making fun of them for hiring a search firm, and then hiring someone who wasn't one of the search firm's top 5 finalists, though. They've been trying to hire him for years.
Pats are not good at the draft, continue to be confused why their front office guys are so desirable
so Jack Easterby maintains his leverage in the org? So sorry Houston fans
Congrats to our #New York Giants posters
fuck john mara. jets are a more well run franchise than this
Joe Judge. Patty Graham. Elite 2020 draft class. Keep building Gettlegod!
Hah so Flores let him retain some dignity with his comments yesterday. He's a good guy AND a good coach
Yeah its a 3rd straight double digit loss season but one of those digits is 0 so is it really that bad?
What I see is an immediate bump in wins in the first year he took over, and consistent improvement in divisional standings each year he has been the GM. 4th, 3rd, 2nd... we all know what’s coming next year if he’s retained.
two more years and he will be 0 of 4th
john mara is dolan with a better PR firm
the jets were the only offense worse. offense never broke 30 all year
Yeah, because you had a new OC. Gonna be the same thing next year if Danny Dimes has to have a 3rd OC in 3 years. Need continuity to be able to develop.
this is why i was hoping america would bring trump back for another term. having continuity in the "front office" of government is more important than things like "competency" or "not being an insane person"
Can someone explain to me this Easterby guy and his history in Houston? Everyone talks about him and I've read the bio, but is there a cliffs version on what the media is talking about with him and climbing into more and more power?
The questionable decisions being made by teams in filling front office positions makes me quite confident that we will have a few bad head coaches hires in an offseason where there are plenty of good head coach options.
What have been the questionable hires so far? Caserio has been considered a top candidate for jobs for a decade, it seems. He just either hasn't been able to leave, or didn't want some of the jobs he was offered.
Not a cliffs version
considered a top candidate doesn’t mean anything to me. I think the patriots have an incredibly overrated front office. They draft very poorly. Especially recently. The Texans just had a former patriots assistant run their team and future into an iceberg. You hired a search firm who gave you 5 candidates, he wasn’t on the list, you hire him anyway, giving him a 6 year contract and making him a top 3 highest paid GM in the league as a first time GM. Not sure how that’s not a questionable sequence of events.
Feel like each team has 20 candidates and the list continues to grow
The Lions interview Saleh today. Unless there are CFB candidates we don't know about, I think it's very possible Saleh will be the last interview and could hired by the end of the week. They've already interviewed Lewis, Bieniemy and Bevell. Supposed to interview Dan Campbell next week, and possibly Arthur Smith (although reports are that he's turning that request down).
They've also interviewed George Paton (Vikings), Terry Fontenot (Saints) and Brad Holmes (Rams) this week, to go with Louis Riddick, Rick Smith, Thomas Dimitroff and Scott Pioli during the season. Jeff Ireland (Saints) is the last scheduled interview we're aware of (tomorrow). Not sure if they wait for Seattle to be done with the season to make a run at Schneider or not, or if that's even legal to do.
who are the favorites at this point?
I think Saleh has always been the huge favorite for the HC job. I think Bevell might have as good a chance as the other 3-4 candidates if it's not Saleh for some reason.
I have no clue on the GM. I think there's a decent chance Saleh gets hired first, and then he sits in on interviews with 2-3 finalists and gets to pick the guy he wants to work with. Paton has the best resume and has obvious ties to Spielman. There have been rumors they really like Fontenot and Holmes as leaders, though, and they've been on a "culture" kick in the media since Patricia was fired and Spielman was brought in.
I figured it would be the opposite, they hire the GM and then he sits in on the HC interviews to see who he wants to work with
But if Saleh was the choice all along and they just are going through the motions to make it look like he wasn’t I could understand hiring him first
obviously Ireland was a disaster in Miami but he seems to have really bounced back in NO. Although I admittedly don’t know how much influence he has on the roster down there
Most teams hire the GM first. I don't think it really matters, and they've stated repeatedly that they're not married to the idea of hiring either before the other. Saleh seems like the opposite to Patricia in a bunch of different/important ways, and is pretty much everything they've talked about at the position. He's also from the area, has family still in the area, grew up a fan of the team and seems to legitimately want the job. It's the one hire I think the fan base would legitimately get excited about for those reasons. Especially if rumors are true and he'd bring one of Shanahan's OCs with him.
I can't see them hiring Ireland after they've spent all this time talking about culture and leadership. Kind of seems like some of the coach/GM interviews are connected in different ways. I think Ireland's only shot would be if we hired Dan Campbell and Campbell said "that's my guy".
what was the story on why Patricia was such a disaster?
I saw it mentioned in a write-up by a 9ers guy about Saleh as a fit in Detroit and I think he's right: Patricia's mentality was about the coach being the boss and the players buying in to the point where they give up any individuality. Do as the coach says, and you'll be rewarded. Saleh seems more along the lines of someone who wants players to lead the way and create the culture.
Patricia came in thinking he was going to save the org. The players he inherited hated him. If you want one example, search for Darius Slay and his experience. On top of that, his scheme was atrocious and he seemed to only want to coach or work with people he had already coach or worked with previously. That went for players and coaches with ties to the Pats and his days at Syracuse before that (he hired Paul Pasqueloni as his first DC, and he was the BC DL coach at the time). Seemed like almost all his staff hires were like that, and 75% of the FAs they signed had NE ties.
It’s amazing to me the New England way of doing things seems to only work in New England
Only one Bill. He is singular. Trying to be him when you are not and haven't had multiple dynasties won't resonate. It's like a Second Lieutenant acting like he's Patton
But you'd think emulating the way he coaches, gameplans, scouts, runs the organization would result in SOME success
I agree. I think it just shows how much better he is than everyone else.
A legend moves on
The 2008 Titans defense will always be my favorite in team history