2022 B1G Thread: Row the Botox

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Celemo, Dec 5, 2021.

  1. Cooler

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    Led by Brian Ferentz at OC. Just need a couple of 1st round TEs to replicate that type of offense. Should be easy enough.
     
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  2. herb.burdette

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    If the idea here is that Day isn’t recruiting the defensive talent Meyer had, then that is the result of Meyer not recruiting it. 2019 was Day’s interim class and 2020 was very short on defensive talent.

    Day’s 2021 and 2022 classes are much different. They’re all just true freshmen in 2021 though or not yet on campus:

    2021:

    DE Tuimoloau 4
    DE Sawyer 5
    CB Johnson 50
    DT Hall 53
    CB Hancock 73
    LB Carrico 87

    The two guys who showed up best in 2021 as true freshmen also are outside the top 100: DT Tyleik Williams 166 and CB Denzel Burke 196. Burke was arguably the best player on our defense.

    2022:

    LB Hicks 12
    S Styles 13
    DE Abor 38
    LB Powers 61
    DE Jackson 70
    DT Curry 88

    We whiffed hard in the secondary in 2022 though, losing three of our top four targets. That’s why Matt Barnes is coaching at Memphis now and Coombs has yet to be determined.
     
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  3. herb.burdette

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    That OSU team quit in the 2017 Iowa game. It was 17-17 in the 2Q and we had a third down stop, but Bosa gets a targeting ejection. Five plays or so later, with a couple of Fant/Wadley TDs and a Barret int, we go into half down 31-17.
     
  4. herb.burdette

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    The old TMB double post.
     
  5. RU-Omega Potato

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    I know all B1G teams are tagged in OP but can someone tell me why I randomly get an alert that sends me directly to Harbaugh's nipples once every few weeks?

    The homoeroticism of the old money is something we can't really appreciate yet.
     
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  6. ~ taylor ~

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    Are they not frequent enough for you?
     
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  7. RU-Omega Potato

    RU-Omega Potato We play 'til the gun you crotchety old bitch.
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    It's like being in the froot of the month club. But it's the same old pale, wrinkled froot.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that
     
  8. MG2

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    Chris Hinton declared for the draft. Dax Hill also assumed to be leaving. That's 6 starters on defense gone for UM, and there are varying reports on whether Vincent Gray comes back (or that he starts if he does, given the Orange Bowl performance).
     
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  9. herb.burdette

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    Playing competent defense is overrated anyway.
     
  10. construxboy

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    Hasn't gotten us anywhere the last two seasons...
     
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  11. herb.burdette

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    If we learned anything from the Rose Bowl, as long as you score a TD on every possession and kick a FG as time expires, defense doesn’t matter.
     
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  12. Constant

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  13. ~ taylor ~

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    That's playing to win, iyam. Trying on defense is playing not to lose.
     
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  14. herb.burdette

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    Don’t forget the style points. Those are worth more than regular points.
     
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  15. construxboy

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    Well, fuck. We haven't had those since Moorhead.
     
  16. hood b. goode

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  17. Lip

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    This is missing a lot of context. If your team is giving up a lot of points, of course the games will be high scoring affairs if you’re hoping to compete. Not every game will be a 40 point drubbing like against MSU without Walker.
     
  18. Lip

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    Shut the fuck up
     
  19. Lip

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    Yes - and in 2021 that was a winning offensive game plan when PSU was so bad at game management.
     
  20. Lip

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    That was precisely the topic that precipitated all of this three pages of nonsense. Do you think those top two 2021 DEs will live up to their rankings next year or not? Because if not, MG2 thinks you may struggle on defense. And no one cares about you taking #Oklahoma State Cowboys d coordinator. Do better.
     
  21. Corch

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    Angry lil fella
     
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  22. spagett

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    Bert fired his OC who was basically Matt Nagy

    I liked it... still do
     
  23. Lip

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    Stupid fans deserve stupid responses.
     
  24. Corch

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    Tell whoever hurt you that I don't like them
     
  25. Lip

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    I don’t expect any of your MAC educated fan base to follow the conversation. I’m having a conversation with the scUM fans on here about what we should expect from OSU’s defense next year.
     
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  26. Corch

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    Gosh, you don't even like the MAC? They must've done a real number on you.
     
  27. herb.burdette

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    We had three true freshmen DL finish in the top 6 in sacks on the team. If the concern is JTT and Sawyer playing to potential (or Tyleik), we’re going to be fine.

    We have recruited 12 top 100 defensive recruits in our last two classes. If the criticism is that Day isn’t recruiting the same type of defensive talent as Meyer, that’s absurd.
     
  28. PSU12

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    We lose Ellis Brooks, Brandon Smith at LB. Jesse Luketa, Arnold Ebiketie at DE, Derek Tangelo at DT, Jaquan Brisker at S, and Tariq Castro-Fields at CB. Defense will take a large step back.
     
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  29. herb.burdette

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    What does your OL return?
     
  30. RockHardJawn39

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    Hopefully none
     
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  31. Jimmy the Saint

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    We’re going to be bad. Don’t waste your time worrying about us.
     
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  32. herb.burdette

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    I’ll ask again next month.
     
  33. PSU12

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    Yeah probably worst since 2015. You thought we were sandbagging last preseason and we were not.
     
  34. MG2

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    Just going back to this, I'll acknowledge that some of my recruiting thoughts came from looking up your roster before you got Curry and Abor, as well as Sykes re-classifying. That certainly changes the talent level in this class (although Abor isn't exactly a lock to stick). So maybe you're closer to being back to where you were going forward than I gave you credit for.

    I maintain that Day's early classes were not up to Urban's levels on defense, and also that those high rankings (again, for defense only) are far more dependent on 5-star talent in state than it was when Urban was rolling into Texas, Florida, the DMV, etc., and taking guys everyone wanted.
     
  35. herb.burdette

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    No argument at all on our 2019 and 2020 classes. Day fired 3/4 of the 2018 defensive staff, then 2019 DC Hafley took the BC job. It hurt us.

    Meyer’s 2018 class was terrible in hindsight as well. None of the top end defensive guys became starters except for Togia and Tyreke Smith.

    In theory, still time for Vincent, who played well in the Rose Bowl, and Proctor who broke his leg this year.

    We had 16 guys at 200 or higher in that class and so far, only 4 of them have become full year starters.
     
  36. HotMic

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  37. Constant

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    I heart Lip , but that's pretty funny.
     
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  38. MG2

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    Love me some Angie Tribeca
     
  39. Lip

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    This will probably shock you, but I was a little drunk last night.
     
  40. ~ taylor ~

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    Rumors of mutual interest between Ryan Day and the Chicago Bears. herb.burdette are these legit?
     
  41. herb.burdette

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    There have been rumors for about 8-10 weeks, but Day isn’t acting like a guy interested in moving on.

    He hired a new DC, new OL coach, and we’re interviewing more for the defense.

    My guess is AD Gene Smith makes him the highest paid coach in the Big Ten by the end of the month.
     
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  42. $P1

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    Elite sources are telling me Day is 60/40 Bears
     
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  43. ~ taylor ~

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    That makes sense, as the rumors are NOT from a good source.
     
  44. herb.burdette

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    Unless you just can’t stand having to recruit your roster 24/7 due to free transfers in the portal or dealing with the weaponization of NIL that’s happening, I’m not sure who in their right mind takes an NFL job over college.

    Take the 10 years at $100 million to coach Ohio State instead of the three year window you get in the NFL.
     
  45. herb.burdette

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    At least Urban Meyer has some free time now.
     
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  46. Celemo

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  47. MG2

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    Just another example of how being an OSU means Herb has no clue what CFB is actually like for everyone else.
     
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  48. herb.burdette

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    How much could a banana cost, $10?
     
  49. The Fuck Lion

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    this is a perfect response
     
  50. herb.burdette

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    The NFL early entry dates this year are 1/17/22 to declare and 1/20/22 to withdraw, with a final list on 1/22.

    At Ohio State, we have WR Wilson and LT Petite Frere both declare.

    We’re still waiting on RT Dawand Jones, DE Zach Harrison, and K Noah Ruggles.

    If no one else leaves, we’re looking at 6 returning starters on offense and 8 on defense.