2024 Formula One Thread: フェラーリに行こう Japanese GP 4/7 Sunday 1am

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  1. jawsthegreat

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    Binotto: hello, I resign - do you accept?

    Ferrari: we are checking
     
  2. skeezy

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    Question. Brawn declined our offer. Time for plan G?
     
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  3. Bankz

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    I would jump for joy if Ross Brawn returned to Ferrari.

    I don't believe Binotto resigned.
     
  4. Keef

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    Ferrari is basically an Auburn coaching search now






     
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  6. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    upload_2022-11-30_13-49-28.png Off season is here
     
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    Love me some Portimao.

     
  8. Keef

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    Fantastic
     
  9. Bruce Wayne

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    I really appreciate Bottas' lack of fucks he gives now

     
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    How soon before he starts speaking with an Aussie accent?
     
  11. Mix

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    Wish Bottas was in a better car. He would be so much fun to root for as a spoiler.
     
  12. BP

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    Love VB. I’m sure the lack of pressure at Alfa is doing him well.
     
  13. Bankz

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    interesting choice of words at the end…
     
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    Charles future: box, box, box
     
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    :laugh:

    Props if that's not stolen
     
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    I haven't seen it but I doubt I'm the only one to think of it
     
  18. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    “You are free to push”
     
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  19. skeezy

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    Lights out and away we go
     
  20. racer

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    There’s a black Jetta with custom plate LECLERC in my neighborhood and I’ve just decided that they’re a big fan.
     
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    https://www.formu1a.uno/strategie-ferrari-ecco-perche-non-e-solo-una-questione-umana/

    Really interesting article (in Italian, translated in the spoiler below) about how Red Bull's partnership with Oracle has been one of the main factors in their strategy advantage recently.



    Red Bull at the top with strategies also thanks to Oracle
    Not just Ferrari and Alpine. Many F1 teams will have to invest significant resources to simulate race situations and get the best strategies at that precise moment of the weekend, whether it's in qualifying, before or during the race. From this point of view, Red Bull is one of the best teams, if not the best. There has been a lot of talk about the human factor, with Hannah Schmitz (Strategy Chief of Red Bull) at the center of attention several times in this 2022. However, the human factor alone is no longer enough in an increasingly technological and fast Formula 1, both in terms of lap times clearly but also as regards the choices in the developments, for example, or those relating precisely to the strategies to be implemented in the race.

    For this reason, in an exclusive virtual meeting dedicated to the European press, we were able to have a chat with Zoe Chilton , Head of Partnerships of Oracle Red Bull Racing; with the one who manages the technological part of innovative partnerships that can help make the car faster or improve the team's business on and off the track in any way. The partnership with Oracle stems precisely from the fact that technology and efficiency are increasingly needed in F1. “Having more efficient simulation tools , thanks to the support of Oracle and its data collection system (Cloud), has allowed us to reduce operating costs and make changesto the planned strategies, in case of VSC, SC or other events during the race, in a faster but very reliable way. ” said the Head of Partnerships of Oracle Red Bull Racing. Also in terms of decision making , both before and especially during a race.
    The American giant joined Red Bull in early 2021, for what was initially evaluated as an innovative partnership "in terms of solutions to our challenges from an engineering, business and other point of view" . It could be something directly related to the vehicle, such as equipment and materials, or elements of software and hardware. “We have observed a lot in this technological sector, studying the best solutions for us. The particular thing about Oracle is that they didn't come to us to sell us a product, but they came to listen to our problems and requests, to study together how to solve them thanks to their knowledge. This is a long-term project."After a very positive first year, the partnership has intensified, with Oracle becoming a Title Partnership as there is a common vision on important new opportunities, also outside of F1.

    Thanks to Oracle, simulations increased by at least 20 times, with an improvement in terms of speed of 1000%
    How much does Red Bull rely on simulation systems or human instinct? “It's a question that many people ask me. First of all, there are two macro-areas where strategies are discussed: the pitwall on the track and the remote garage in Milton Keynes. The simulations show us all the possible options. Among the most competitive, it is then man who chooses the best strategy.” Zoe said. Human factor that comes into play more when external elements, such as the weather, become very important in the choice. “The strategies are precise and rigid with regard to the weather, but those sitting at the pitwall can better perceive the slightest differences, such as the humidity of the moment and other factors. The data should give you 99% certainty on the best path to follow, but then, especially when there are multiple possible choices, it's up to the human being to identify the best choice” . We are fortunate to have strategists and a very experienced race group within the team who have the elements and skills to make the right choices.” he concluded. It is no coincidence that Zoe Chilton wanted to talk about experience as the strategic group of the Milton Keynes team has been together for over 10 years, compared to the much younger one, at least in terms of experience, of Ferrari.

    Thanks to cloud computing , Red Bull Racing runs billions of race simulations every weekend. “We collect data during the weekend which, once entered into complex algorithms, formulate what will be the best strategy. The result is then communicated to the team on the track. We are able to simulate strategies on the best compound to start a race with, which lap to make a given pitstop and all these strategic choices in view of the race". However, there's a lot more to it when you consider that once the race starts, the simulations don't stop. With live data coming straight from the track, Oracle's algorithms have the ability to constantly update themselveswith every overtaking, at the end of a lap, in short, how the race is going, like a real real-time simulation. This made it possible, for example, to switch very quickly to Plans not considered as primary, if at the start of a race the tire wear was better than expected. All practically in real time, without the human having to think too much about it as it was the computer system that warned him of the possible change of strategy. Thanks to Oracle's Cloud system, Red Bull Racing was able to increase the number of simulations by "at least 20 times" , with an improvement in terms of speed of 1000%let us know from an engineer who works in the Remote Garage. The effectiveness and efficiency of an F1 wall also depends on this. Especially in those situations where the decision has to be made by the staff at the wall in just a few seconds. Because behind the human factor, at Iniaki Rueda on duty (to name a random name), there is a very complex, abstract and still quite unknown world that is part of an increasingly technological and difficult F1 to get to the reader .
     
  22. Bankz

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    And what gives Mercedes it's advantage... We had shit heads making race day calls. End of story.
     
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    And Ferrari strategy is still stone age in comparison
     
  24. skeezy

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    I had a patient with a very very similar last name last week. I kept writing leclerc on his paperwork which is bad since it was a death certificate
     
  25. skeezy

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    Verstappen Shop has stuff on sale + bogo. 2 hats + shipping for about $45. Who knows how long shipping will take tho.
     
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  28. skeezy

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    Excellent. Ty. Copped a pullover and tee. Been searching for my size for months
     
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  30. Bankz

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    Mid
     
  31. Keef

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    Yeah seems like there weren’t any good options.
     
  32. Bankz

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    I think this is something that next year may be helpful but long term I think hurts the development of the team.

    Open to the change because change was needed but this doesn’t excite me
     
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    Interested to see who the tech director will be
     
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    Many names have been made about Binotto's successor in recent weeks. Frédéric Vasseur has always been the favorite , also the result of a pre-agreement signed at the end of last summer , while the first information relating to the budget gate began to circulate among insiders . The first approaches date back to many weeks earlier, in June, with the French manager who proposed himself knowing that he was no longer in Sauber's plans, once the purchase of the team by Audi was completed. Relations then intensified from the Hungarian GP (end of July).

    Ferrari – Vasseur: that's why the affair took longer than the French manager had hoped for
    It was therefore no coincidence that, in Abu Dhabi, there were no denials by the French and by Alfa Romeo , with the team principal of the Swiss team who, when questioned by the French press, let slip a very direct sentence: " I won't say anything about the affair, you'll find out soon ."

    In reality, the story has lengthened more than usual and than the French manager himself hoped as Binotto anticipated the times , resigning, and characters very close to the president John Elkann, once the name of the French manager emerged in the press , they wanted to let him know that this could not have been a choice by Ferrari . While Elkann tried to make last desperate attempts to convince more prominent personalities, including a former Mercedes, not to veer on what, in the meantime, had become plan B, Vigna was instead very happy with the arrival of Vasseur , a a little noble name that could have allowed him to take over the Gestione Sportiva more directly.



    Vassuer – Ferrari: the pre-agreement at the end of the summer has been perfected
    No surprise. Elkann failed to convince any other (or high) profile and it is therefore no coincidence that, last week, sources close to the management reported to us that Binotto's succession had already been defined for some time . Precisely from the end of last summer, from that pre-agreement undertaken with Vassuer.

    In the meantime, the French manager has terminated the contract, receiving the green light in advance from Hinwill (house of Sauber) to define the details of the new assignment with Elkann, although officially Alfa Romeo still does not want to comment on what it still considers to be rumors. Ultimately, the pre-agreement signed at the end of the summer now appears to have been perfected , even if there are no officially certain timings yet. Meanwhile, those who work in Maranello hope to receive communications before Christmas, so as not to have to further prolong this phase that we could define as hybrid, if not downright anomalous, considering that next week will be the last of Mattia Binotto's work in GeS of Maranello. At the Gala of the FIA last Friday, in addition to Charles Leclerc, the Sporting Director of the Rossa was present, namely Laurent Mekies, a figure who will not move from Maranello .

    Vasseur will then return to work with Leclerc after four years. It is no coincidence that the Monegasque spent kind words on him at the FIA gala where he was awarded the vice-champion trophy: “Fred has always been very direct, very honest. And that's something I like about him. We'll see if it's him in the coming months." Vasseur is a ' corporate' manager who enjoys the trust of Vigna, Elkann, and above all that of Carlos Tavares , CEO of the Stellantis group in which the Cavallino chairman John Elkann is a shareholder. He is now preparing to face the most important and legendary challenge for the career of any F1 manager: bringing the title back to Maranello . We'll see with which men and with which role, given thatthe option with a more limited radius , namely that of Race Director, still remains open for Vasseur .

    Ferrari 675: There will be quite visible changes to the suspension
    The 2023 focus, as we have already pointed out , will concern various macro parts of the car, including aerodynamics and the engine. However, we should also expect some interesting evolutions on the suspensions . In recent years, Ferrari has always been a step backwards on this crucial technical aspect of an F1 single-seater while both Mercedes and above all Red Bull have pushed the bar very high. The RB18 could count on superfine mechanics, with a rear which, according to some teams, tended to stall allowing the Anglo-Austrian car to score very high speeds on the straight, thanks also to excellent aerodynamic efficiency and a really top PU Honda especially in the second half of the championship. Although clearly all new generation cars are to be considered ground effect, the RB18 was least of all, with a back designed to enhance the performance of the speaker, also thanks to a mini rake trim.

    Although already on the F1-75 we could have pushed more on the mechanics, in the end we preferred to remain cautious knowing we had a very valid basic project. The 2023 car will change with these macro areas which will undergo changes defined as "rather visible" . The last few races have shown a difficulty in managing wear, especially on the front axle, a concern of all the latest Ferraris, while, more generally, the use of intermediate tires has created extensive problems since Imola, when compared to the RB18. In the wet, the proof: with reduced speed and grip, it's never an aerodynamic problem but more a mechanical one. This is another aspect on which Ferrari plans to close the gap on its competitors.

    Power Unit 2023: what are manufacturers allowed to change?
    “We need to focus on building a fast and reliable [2023] car.” Mattia Binotto had made it known in the post Abu Dhabi GP. In Maranello there is a lot of pressure on the engineers because a large part of the performance of the 2023 car will depend on their corrections. Next year's drive unit , which Binotto defined as a "bomb" in a conversation with Gunther Steiner, will in fact have many changes in the name of reliability even if officially the units are frozen from the beginning of 2022.

    It is therefore interesting to understand what the engineers can change in this era of frozen engines, something that does not only concern Ferrari, although it was the most afflicted engineer. Mercedes is also working to solve some limitations encountered last season , after the last unit had made concessions to solve some problems in terms of crankshaft reliability. Basically, defined minor changes can be made in homologation time windows . This means you can't constantly introduce updates. The modifications that can be made concern the materials as long as the layout, the wiring and the exhaust system are not modified, provided that the key parameters that define the system, i.e. diameters, lengths, etc. remain substantially unchanged, the position of the turbocharger (within 20 mm of the original position with respect to the endothermic part), the clocking and the supports of the turbo, as well as the position of the wastegate with housings and pipes, as well as the position of the pop-off valve with its housing, tubing and air inlet system.

    It should be remembered that each homologation is subject to the formal approval of the FIA, after having examined the modification projects and any further requested documentation, informing the other engine manufacturers of the request.
     
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  36. skeezy

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    Wow that seems kinda sudden
     
  37. Bankz

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    Might be an indication that the 2023 car is a bust...
     
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    Binotto to Williams :awesomeface:
     
  39. Mix

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    I mean its Williams so it certainly will be
     
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    Against the field... sure. I was speaking in comparison to what the 2022 car did. No progress in development with all that money being thrown into the team is a bad sign.
     
  41. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    Vasseur official as Ferrari TP
    Capito steps down
    Seidl departing McLaren to take Sauber CEO role

    TP silly season has arrived
     
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    Andrea Stella new TP of McLaren
     
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    There were rumors Ferrari spoke to Seidl as well but for a TP role not CEO
     
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    Sucks to see Seidl leave, but not at all surprising that he's going back to VW group.
     
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    Definite loss for McLaren. Seidl brought a lot of stability to that team.
     
  46. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    I just noticed your TMB tagline :roll:
     
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    Everything max does is fast.
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    Fucking hell this getting pricey