2024 Formula One Thread: 中國大獎賽 - 4/21 3am

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  1. jawsthegreat

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    They apparently felt very un-important person
     
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  2. Gallant Knight

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    Kind of looking forward to the new fans reactions to the parade of cars in Spain and Monaco
     
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  3. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    Quali is the race for these usually
     
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    Yeah, found it funny, the "borings" that last week got during the race. They've got no idea what is about to come on a couple tracks if what they need for entertainment is an overtake or two every lap.
     
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  5. dblplay1212

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  6. Andy Reocho

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    Miami was a new track. There’s years and years of racing in Spain/Monaco to know what you’re getting.
     
  7. dblplay1212

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    I just found it funny that GK was one the only 3 "boring" posts on Sunday.
     
  8. Gallant Knight

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    Just wait
     
  9. dblplay1212

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    Oh I don't doubt you. I'm new to F1 but not new to racing. Most 1.5 mile tracks are boring as shit in Nascar. Restarts are fun for 2-3 laps and then the cars space out and passing is rare. Cars with clean air are hard to run down.
     
  10. Gallant Knight

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    Just make sure you watch qualifying.
     
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  11. Rainbow Brite

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    Spanish Grand Prix: 23 of 31 winners have started on pole. Barring crash or mechanical failure, your odds are not good if you aren't on pole. 5 times the driver starting P2 has won. Only three times has a driver that started off the front row won it.

    Monaco: Since 2003 (the modern configuration of the course), 12 out of 18 winners have come from the pole position. Not sure about the other stats. Can't find them easily on the Google machine.
     
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  12. momux

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    In pretty much every race so far this year RB has been running a lower downforce setup when compared to Ferrari; effectively giving up time in the corners for the advantage in the straights.

    Given the track layout in Spain I don’t think that will be the case so should be interesting to see how well RB handles a higher downforce setup.
     
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    And everyone is questioning why Ferrari has pushed for that set up for both Jeddah and Miami
     
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  14. Georgia_Nole

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    Miami GP did the second highest TV rating ever for an F1 race on American TV.

    Still lost head to head on the Nascar race, but most importantly F1 almost doubled up the 18-49 group. You'll likely see a nice little bid battle for F1 rights in the future.

    Personally, I like that ESPN just broadcast Sky's broadcast. Let the experts do all the heavy lifting. I hope whoever gets the rights keeps that going.
     
  15. Bankz

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    I think RB is making nice strides with how it carries speed in the corners. Its probably the reason it's able to stick close to the Ferrari at the last two races to take advantage of the straight-line power.

    Ferrari is going to need to actually improve it's car because it can't hope and pray the track does the work for them. RB is closing that gap without sacrificing it's speed.
     
  16. Bankz

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    My only negative with Sky is the constant mentioning of Lewis/George as legit battles are being had at the front of the field. I get its a British broadcast but when you got intense action up front I could give one fuck if Lewis is able to hold off George for 7th. Outside of that they are an entertaining group and in the big moments they really do shine.
     
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  17. Georgia_Nole

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    I'd take that in exchange for not having to hear Danica Patrick's dumb takes. It's clear she doesn't watch, yet ESPN asks Sky for her to join their pre/post race broadcast. No doubt they'd put her in the Martin Brundle spot if they did their own coverage, and it's set the sport back.
     
  18. Bankz

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    That's probably something that ABC is/was pushing. She's apparently on a promo run about her heath and such. I agree you can tell how out the loop she is on the sport. It's like asking DBL to breakdown the sport to everyone in the thread. Just a fools choice.
     
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  19. Andy Reocho

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    It's like having Jessica Mendoza commentate baseball, just because she played a similar sport doesn't mean they’re an insider.
     
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  20. Georgia_Nole

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    I know he works for Fox, but Jeff Gordon when he was on the F1 beyond the grid podcast was great. Very knowledgeable about the current events of the sport as the championship was winding down last year. If you need a name, pick someone like him.
     
  21. Gallant Knight

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    Yeah he actually pays attention to f1
     
  22. Paddy Murphy

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    If there is one thing American television producers are good at doing, it’s fucking up all the good things about European broadcast TV that the audience likes and replacing them with things that the audience hates.

    Soccer is of course the obvious precursor to this, and outside of NBC sports 2013-2018 I am not sure any American distributor has come close to getting it right. The other night, Paramount/CBS/Viacom took 5 hours to post a replay of the City/Real Champions league semifinal - one of the five biggest global soccer games of the year - to their paid streaming service and it cut off at the final whistle short of the historic celebrations. Five hours. To post a replay.

    Short answer, American TV will fuck f1 to hell, and you will buy f1 tv to avoid watching the Ferraris get covered in green slime during qualifying at Monaco when they get P5 and P7 and some dick wad is making a joke about pressing the gas pedal and not the brake.
     
  23. Bankz

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    Not disagreeing with the generally feeling that F1 is in better hands with Sky but before ESPN had the rights I believe they had an American crew calling the races remotely and they were pretty good. I believe Will Buxton was on that crew live at the track. Sky doesn't control the feed its controlled by F1. But all pre/post race stuff could be highly impacted by who wins coverage of the new TV rights.
     
  24. PeterGriffin

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  25. CC_Nole

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    Found this on YouTube today. Fascinating comparison. This was at the height of Ferrari’s illegal engine where they would pull away from cars that had DRS on them. The W11 is the fastest car in F1 history with the greatest mechanical grip of all time.
     
  26. Tiger Z

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    214 down the Kemmel straight is jaw dropping, as is the W11 going flat out through Pouhon.
     
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  27. CC_Nole

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    The Ferrari was .5 tenths up at the end of the Kemmel straight and Mercedes was arguable ahead two corners later.
     
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  29. Bruce Wayne

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    Guy sure likes wrecking Ferraris at monaco
     
  30. Tiger Z

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    Bonkers. Zero tire warm up in Indy too.
     
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    Related...

     
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  32. TAS

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    Damn Danny ricc down bad

     
  33. skeezy

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    I believe him yo
     
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  34. momux

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  35. Keef

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  36. Bruce Wayne

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    So Leclerc will just be going that much faster when he invariably wrecks at the most inopportune time
     
  37. Bankz

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  38. momux

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    I don't speak Italian but this is the internet translation. I guess it's not Ferrari claiming it but internet rumors:

    Ferrari's overwhelming start in the first races of the World Championship was the result of a car that started well and was immediately very fast, so much so that the Maranello team has been able to live almost on it up to this point in the championship, aiming to extract the maximum potential from the F1-75, without major updates. But now it's time to take action, throwing the first real developments of 2022 into the fray. The occasion is the Spanish GP at Montmelò, a traditional crossroads of every season, a track that the teams know like the back usual of winter tests. The red will arrive with very important aerodynamic innovations, to try to get back in front of Max Verstappen's Red Bull, winner at Imola and Miami thanks to the step forward made with the new floor used since the Italian race.

    The bottom will be the main novelty also on Ferrari in Catalan soil. Combined with a "package" of other solutions (diffuser and wings) that should improve the car's performance. How many? Only those of the Cavallino know this, who have studied the pieces in the wind tunnel and in the simulator, obtaining a forecast of the possible performance gain. According to rumors, the updates could be worth 3-4 tenths per lap. Enough to give Charles Leclerc back the speed inspiration that has earned him two victories so far in Bahrain and Australia (rival Verstappen has three). During the week in Miami there was no shortage of suspicions and discussions on the subject, with Ferrari rivals ready to argue that the redhead have tried the bottom during the Pirelli tests after the Imola race to collect data directly on the track. An accusation, circulated in the paddock, to which the team led by Mattia Binotto responded by saying that the car complied with the regulations, therefore without unpublished details. Position confirmed by the FIA. The Montmelò will be a test: it will tell us where Ferrari is compared to Red Bull, which will in turn have significant updates, and if the Maranello simulations are working as they seemed at the beginning of the year.

    The development work conducted by the group led by Enrico Cardile (chassis) and David Sanchez (aerodynamics) focused on the most sensitive area of the current single-seaters, which exploit the ground effect created by the air passing under the car to generate load. and therefore grip when cornering. It has become all (or almost) a question ... of fundamental importance. Therefore Red Bull has changed pace after Imola. And therefore it is necessary for Ferrari to respond. The goal is always the same: to allow the machine to travel as close as possible to the asphalt to optimize the ground effect. Mercedes, for example, still can't do it very well and it's one of the reasons Lewis Hamilton and George Russell are out of the fight that matters. But the technicians also made an effort to reduce the high-speed hopping on the straights (“porpoising”) which penalizes the drivers' driving by creating instability when braking. So far Red Bull and Ferrari have managed to limit the consequences by acting on the set-up, but all the teams are looking for a definitive solution. Including the top of the class. The fight at the top sees Leclerc, leader of the World Championship, ahead of Verstappen by 19 points. While Ferrari has 6 points more than Red Bull in the Constructors' classification. However, the "trend" is in favor of the Milton Keynes team, which has accelerated developments. Maybe Christian Horner and his associates will then have to brake, to stay within the limits imposed by the ceiling on expenses, but in the meantime ...
     
  39. Bankz

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    Yeah it’s typical Italian media. If they can pry .1-.2 that would be insane. And given how much RB have done to improve the car already (Ferrari claiming it may be close to the limit) it could be enough to extend the gap and take a larger command for the title.
     
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  40. CC_Nole

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    Tsk tsk
     
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  41. Bankz

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    I love it… we’re about to get to the spicy portion of this season. Gloves about to come off
     
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  42. momux

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    Seems like a counter to the prior accusations about the Haas/Ferrari relationship.
     
  43. skeezy

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    This dude thinks Red Bull is just going to blow their wad in the first few races and not think someone’s keeping track of their multimillion dollar budget? Ok
     
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  44. London Humphreys

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    Is there a form of auto racing with little to no regulations?
     
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  46. CC_Nole

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    Sir this is Formula 1… if the teams aren’t doing what is equivalent to irl shit posting then they are doing it wrong.
     
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  47. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    Thought Monaco would be much higher...like 1 or 2
     
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  49. Keef

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    Russia won't be replaced so only 22 races on the schedule
     
  50. momux

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    Agreed - maybe it's a historic thing. I assume the last 15-20 years have been much higher.
     
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