***2022 MLB Thread: PLAYOFFS***

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by teel, Apr 7, 2022.

  1. spagett

    spagett Got ya, spooked ya
    Donor

    Yea back then mid 90s was impressive
     
    dblplay1212 likes this.
  2. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    i remember when they used to have the fox game of the week like mid afternoon and you’d see a guy like billy wagner come in and they’d flash flames on the chyron if the pitch was above 95. thought that was as fast as a ball could go
     
  3. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    I'd love to see how many 97+ fastballs Bonds saw in 2001. I'd be surprised if it was more than 40. Judge is probably north of 1500. The game has changed so much since then and it's mostly bc every dude that rolls out of the bullpen throws 98.
     
  4. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    And now we have freaks throwing sliders and splitters in the 90s :laugh:
     
  5. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    i remember texting my buddy who’s a yankees fan back in 2010 that the braves had this dude johnny venters who was throwing 95 mph sinkers and he said he didn’t believe me because that’s impossible. now every team’s like #5 starter throws that easily
     
    RoderickJaynes and dblplay1212 like this.
  6. spagett

    spagett Got ya, spooked ya
    Donor

    That'd why everyone should love Kyle Hendricks

    Last of a dying breed
     
    RoderickJaynes and dblplay1212 like this.
  7. jrmy

    jrmy For bookings contact Morgan at 702-374-3735
    Donor
    South Carolina GamecocksAtlanta BravesDallas CowboysNational LeagueAvengersBarAndGrill

    Judge has 685 PAs at 4.19 pitches per PA, sees fastballs 43.7% of the time at an average speed of 94.1 mph so he’s probably closer to 300-400 over 97.

    For reference, first season there is pitch type data is 2002, year after 73, and Bonds saw 68% fastballs on average at 89 mph (LOL)
     
  8. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    I would have guessed the average would have been 95+. Must be some noodle arms out there skewing it down.

    upload_2022-10-3_12-14-28.png
     
  9. jrmy

    jrmy For bookings contact Morgan at 702-374-3735
    Donor
    South Carolina GamecocksAtlanta BravesDallas CowboysNational LeagueAvengersBarAndGrill

    For every shutdown high leverage guy you’ve got in a bullpen you probably also have a couple inning eaters that just throw strikes

    Would be interesting to see those breakdowns of avg reliever velo by situation/leverage
     
  10. jrmy

    jrmy For bookings contact Morgan at 702-374-3735
    Donor
    South Carolina GamecocksAtlanta BravesDallas CowboysNational LeagueAvengersBarAndGrill

    Considering this is data for one of the greatest hitters ever vs one of the best of this era and looking at the difference between fastball selection and velocity it’s no wonder elbows are exploding all the time
     
    dblplay1212 likes this.
  11. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    I'd love to see the numbers today's hitters would put up if they saw 89mph fastballs 68% of the time with no shift on. Seeing the league at .240 or whatever it is now sucks but it's understandable when looking at this kind of data.
     
    jrmy likes this.
  12. electronic

    electronic It’s satire!
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsSeattle MarinersCharlotte Hornets

    Would also love to see Bonds’ numbers against the fastest stuff he faced.
     
    jrmy likes this.
  13. bcuga

    bcuga Administrator
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Georgia BulldogsAtlanta BravesAtlanta HawksAtlanta Falcons

    Braves fans have to deal with a lot but are very tolerable of others
     
    gus_chiggins likes this.
  14. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    Except native Americans who ask them not to do their racist chant during games he's playing.
     
    steamengine likes this.
  15. zeberdee

    zeberdee wheel snipe celly boys
    Donor TMB OG
    Penn State Nittany LionsPhiladelphia PhilliesPhiladelphia 76'ersPhiladelphia EaglesPhiladelphia FlyersArsenalPhiladelphia UnionUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    I always just think of that famous Bonds' at bat against Gagne.

    he could hit anything.
     
    bwi2, WillySaliba, MG2 and 2 others like this.
  16. gus_chiggins

    gus_chiggins This carpet is overdue for a good moppin
    Donor
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesTiger WoodsGrateful Dead

    Shut up honky ass cracker
     
  17. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    Didn't Gange reveal recently that he and Bonds had agreed that he only got one offspeed pitch in an AB? Kinda take the shine off him yanking 100. He was great, best I've ever seen, but that AB isn't as legendary to me when he knew what was coming.
     
  18. zeberdee

    zeberdee wheel snipe celly boys
    Donor TMB OG
    Penn State Nittany LionsPhiladelphia PhilliesPhiladelphia 76'ersPhiladelphia EaglesPhiladelphia FlyersArsenalPhiladelphia UnionUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    he wasn't supposed to throw any breaking balls.

    but he did, so I'm not sure Bonds could have really known what was coming.
     
  19. The Goat

    The Goat Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Arizona CardinalsPhoenix SunsArizona WildcatsArizona DiamondbacksLeeds United

    Feel like DBL wants to come out and say Judge is a better player than Bonds.
     
    bwi2, CC_Nole, Owsley and 3 others like this.
  20. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    Ahh I thought he just got 1.
     
  21. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    Na not at all. We can only judge players off their eras and Bonds was on a different era against his era.

    Do I think Bonds would have a 235 wRC+ against today's pitching? No, I don't. Do I think Ruth would have hit 714 HR's against today's pitching? Nope. Do I think Alcantara would have 30 wins in the 1960's? Absolutely. Today's players are just better all around. I don't think that's really up for debate. Argument is the same across all sports.
     
  22. Irush

    Irush Fairwell Solenya
    Donor TMB OG

    I mean we have people who talk about Dansby Swanson like he’s some kind of generational talent when he’s just Bo Bichette for people who can’t dance so who cares
     
    steamengine, AubCabs and dblplay1212 like this.
  23. Gaknight

    Gaknight Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsAtlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsAtlanta United

    Who treats MAGA Dans like he is a generational talent?
     
  24. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Career high 116 wRC+ = generational talent. It's a fact
     
  25. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

    It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens Well-Known Member
    Donor

    He's a lot like Jeter imo. Good not great but a huge part of really good teams.
     
  26. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    Jeter's career wRC+ was higher than that
     
  27. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Of course it was he was wayyy better at baseball
     
  28. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    looked it up and its 119. i was expecting it to be higher. those last two years dragged it down
     
  29. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    I don't understand why teams throw Dansby anything but sliders off the plate

    Generational looks for sure though
     
    gus_chiggins likes this.
  30. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    i heard some stat on the radio broadcast last night about how he's leading the league in homers against a certain velocity or something like that. i cant remember the exact specifics.

    game 4 last year was the best example. astros pitcher embarrassed him with two sliders and then threw a fastball that he hit out to tie the game
     
  31. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

    from Stark's award column


    NL MVP: Paul Goldschmidt, Cardinals
    One thing I’ve always said about MVP seasons is: You have to finish them. A month ago, I never would have figured that was going to be a problem for Paul Goldschmidt. But …

    Oops. You never know.

    Baseball is hard. It’s even hard when you’re the MVP front-runner. So let’s look at where the NL MVP derby stood a little more than five weeks ago — and where it stands now.

    Through Aug. 25
    PLAYER OPS FWAR
    Paul Goldschmidt
    1.057
    6.8
    Nolan Arenado
    .922
    6.1
    Manny Machado
    .890
    5.5
    Freddie Freeman
    .920
    5.5
    Austin Riley
    .904
    4.7
    Mookie Betts
    .873
    5.0


    Since Aug. 26*
    PLAYER OPS FWAR
    Manny Machado
    .931
    1.8
    Freddie Freeman
    .946
    1.6
    Mookie Betts
    .904
    1.5
    Nolan Arenado
    .782
    1.1
    Austin Riley
    .823
    0.9
    Paul Goldschmidt
    .696
    0.3
    (*through Saturday)
    (Source: FanGraphs)


    So all of a sudden, Goldschmidt went from chasing a Triple Crown, having a Lou Gehrig-esque season and holding a commanding lead in this MVP race to finding himself in a shockingly tight battle for his first MVP trophy. Here, as we enter the final days of this season, is how FanGraphs’ full-season Wins Above Replacement leaderboard looked heading into Sunday.

    Manny Machado — 7.3
    Nolan Arenado — 7.2
    Paul Goldschmidt — 7.1
    Freddie Freeman — 7.1
    Francisco Lindor — 6.8


    So what we have here, essentially, is a five-way tie, since WAR is not an exact science. Which means writing this column just got a lot harder. And I hate when that happens.
     
  32. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

    also love Roberts finishing 5th in his voting for NL Manager of the Year. Such an interesting thought about where to place a manager in those type of rankings when the expectations + payroll are high. But the Dodgers are pretty much going to finish 3 to 4 wins shy of the Mariners record, finish in the top 5 all-time for run differential, and lead the league in ERA in a year where they had a ton of pitching injuries but didn't make a splash trade at the deadline. And he is the 5th best manager? I guess I get it. :idk: Doesn't seem fair to reward him for having an unreal top half of the lineup. But it sure seems to eliminate him from any discussion as to his aptitude as a regular season manager
     
  33. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    found it

     
  34. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    I think Saban has 1 COY award at Alabama and that was 2008.
     
    bro likes this.
  35. Burt Handsome

    Burt Handsome I'm sorry, the card says Moops
    Donor TMB OG
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishMilwaukee Brewers altMilwaukee BucksGreen Bay PackersTiger Woods

    Counsell should have won MOY like the last three years so I have no faith that they will get this one right
     
  36. joey jo-jo jr shabadoo

    joey jo-jo jr shabadoo you know for me, the action is the juice

    least self aware post in the history of the board
     
    bro likes this.
  37. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

  38. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Missouri TigersSt. Louis CardinalsChicago BullsSt. Louis BluesEverton

  39. iboilhotdogs

    iboilhotdogs hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersMilwaukee BucksPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    Oneil cruz with the walk off!!! We own the cards!

    :raiseit:
     
  40. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    Correa is closing the season on a tear
     
    steamengine likes this.
  41. Charles DeMar

    Charles DeMar Smug Outlaw
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesHouston AstrosHouston RocketsHouston TexansRice Owls



    Dusty taking out some of the starters now, too

     
  42. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

  43. football501

    football501 I once ate a Twix with the wrapper on it
    TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsEvertonAvengersUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

  44. zeberdee

    zeberdee wheel snipe celly boys
    Donor TMB OG
    Penn State Nittany LionsPhiladelphia PhilliesPhiladelphia 76'ersPhiladelphia EaglesPhiladelphia FlyersArsenalPhiladelphia UnionUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    Schwarber just went on a check swing and immediately put his bat down and started taking his shin guard off, and then the 3b ump said he didn’t go so he’s still hitting.

    he definitely went btw.
     
  45. Irush

    Irush Fairwell Solenya
    Donor TMB OG

    even the umps don’t want Milwaukee in the post season
     
    steamengine likes this.
  46. zeberdee

    zeberdee wheel snipe celly boys
    Donor TMB OG
    Penn State Nittany LionsPhiladelphia PhilliesPhiladelphia 76'ersPhiladelphia EaglesPhiladelphia FlyersArsenalPhiladelphia UnionUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    back in the playoffs. coming for that 2011 revenge.
     
    bcuga, Truman, RoderickJaynes and 3 others like this.
  47. Gunners

    Gunners Nicking a living
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesBaltimore OriolesWashington WizardsWashington Football TeamWashington CapitalsArsenal

    when football, mlb playoffs, nhl, and baketball are all at the same time is the absolute best

    add morning EPL to my equation
     
    #13748 Gunners, Oct 3, 2022
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2022
  48. teel

    teel Schiano Man
    Donor
    Rutgers Scarlet KnightsNew York MetsNew York GiantsNew Jersey DevilsNational League

    The rules keep changing every year there's still hope that every team makes the playoffs next season