2022 NFL Draft thread

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  1. Jack Parkman

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  3. Corch

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    lol these twitter scouts are fucking morons. Nakobe Dean is awesome, I don't need to know the length of his arms or his exact height to know that
     
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  4. BudKilmer

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    scouts love throwing random shit to all these mouth breathers
     
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  5. Cornelius Suttree

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    Is coaching at the Senior Bowl really the advantage media types make it out to be? Like they're coaching these dudes because their organizations kinda suck
     
  6. BudKilmer

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    it was so beneficial to Matt Rhule and the panthers they took a CB with a high pick and picked up the 5th year option on Sam Darnold
     
  7. Bankz

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    Some is hype from those hosting the game. But I would imagine some benefit is gained. If your franchise is shit i'm sure that's taken down a notch.
     
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  8. MG2

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    I agree about Dean being overrated. He would have destroyed all of Michigan's offensive plays instead of half of them if he was any good.
     
  9. IHHH

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    way to put your neck out there
     
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  10. MG2

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    I think it's an advantage in the sense of I'd rather have first-hand experience coaching/interacting with the players than watching from the stands, but the media probably makes it into too big of a deal.
     
  11. Handcuffed

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    i think it helps understanding the players' attitudes and ability to learn

    less so with any sort of physical evaluation
     
  12. MG2

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    I don't understand how Travon Walker is rated so low by PFF. He destroyed Michigan and was good every time I saw him, and they have him ranked 51st in this draft and rated him in the 30s among edge rushers this year.

    Brugler has him in the top 10-15, and that seemed more along the lines with that I thought than PFF.
     
  13. Jack Parkman

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    obviously salty Michigan fans that run PFF
     
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  14. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Off ball linebackers that don't fit the ideal athletic profile are the easiest for scouts (I am emphasizing at the scout level of personnel departments) to overlook because the position is generally discounted to begin with and you aren't going to lose your job passing on the guy that hits. I imagine as you go up the org chart that someone like Dean might get more love.
     
  15. The Blackfish

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    Nakobe Dean is awesome. Hate him forever for going to Georgia.
     
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    Haha I had too much to drink and I'm not entirely sure what prompted my post, but I think it was trying to refute this earlier comment: "Guys like Jeremiah have been saying for months that he's had scouts tell him no one in this draft would have gone in the top 10 last year. I kind of think that's hyperbole, but Brugler recently said the same thing."
     
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  17. Charles DeMar

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    I’m sure the Texans would’ve managed to screw things up and not gain anything from it.
     
  18. DeToxRox

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    Brugler has Ekwonu #1 in his new mock.
     
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    Ekwonu and Linderbaum at 5 and 7 for the Giants :pray:
     
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  20. Jake Scott

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    Anything can happen(See Isaiah Wilson) but I honestly think Travon has the best NFL career of any one on our defense. He can play pretty much every position on the DL.
     
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  21. Lip

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    Can someone post it?
     
  22. Redav

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    Dude can drop into coverage and had a pbu that led to an int this year
     
  23. Jake Scott

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    He can also chase down WR's 40 yards down field. The NFL will also get another 20-25lbs on him. He's going to be really fucking good IMO.
     
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  25. Gritty Badger

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    only real advantage I’ve ever heard is if you happen to be zeroing in on a QB and he ends up on the squad you are coaching which is almost never
     
  26. DeToxRox

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    2013 was the last draft where a QB didn’t go in the top 10, and that was possibly the WOAT QB class. I’m not sure what to make of this QB class. None of these guys intrigue me at 2, but I would be stunned if we don’t see at least one QB go in the top 10.
     
  27. Gaknight

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    If the Falcons reach for a unfinished product when we need god damn everything I will rage
     
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  28. Bankz

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    I don’t think this class is as bad as 2013. It doesn’t have a can’t miss prospect like Fields, Lawrence or a guy with massive upside (Lance) but I do believe Howell is a really good prospect. I think Carson Strong could really explode with a good senior bowl. I think we see 3 or 4 QBs selected in the first round. Howell is the only guy I would take in the top 10.
     
  29. Pelican

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    I’d prefer OL in round 1 but McDuffie and OL in the second may also be acceptable.
     
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  30. repoocs

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    Nah. NPF with the 32nd pick.
     
  31. MG2

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  32. The Banks

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    You weren’t impressed with his 7 TD, 9 INT, and 11 fumbles in his 10 starts? Or was it the sub 60% accuracy?
     
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  33. MG2

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    Just thought he could slip that in there about the guy who posted one of the two worst single-season QBRs of anyone in the last decade last year and no one would notice.
     
  34. Bankz

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    Fields performance isn't a reflection of the type of talent he is. Its a reflection of a shit tier OC/Coach and terrible talent around him.

    I guess Lawrence wasn't a can't miss prospect either since he had a sub 60% accuracy, 12 TD, 17 INT
     
  35. MG2

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    Lawrence was the consensus #1 pick and QB in the draft. Fields was the 4th QB taken and was passed on by multiple QB needy teams. And then he had that rookie season. Calling him a can't miss QB coming into the league is absurd, as is comparing him to Lawrence as a prospect.
     
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  36. Bankz

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    Fields would go 1.1 in this draft.

    Its insane you would have this take. People were having the conversation midway though last season about Fields going ahead of Lawrence in the draft. Most people were shocked to see Fields fall. I don't give a shit about his rookie performance because I'm speaking strictly about the general consensus that Fields and Lawrence were elite prospects at the QB spot going into the draft.
     
  37. BamaNug

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    I see it's time for #BankzTakez draft season. Where logic doesn't matter and the narrative is always twisted to like or hate a certain player with zero consistency.
     
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  38. Handcuffed

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    the top of this draft is such an abyss for what i think of as smart, well-run, up-and-coming teams

    jacksonville - they have lawrence but it's still the khans and the recent stink of urban
    detroit - seems like the best spot
    houston - on that youth pastor bullshit for the foreseeable future
    nyj - feels like they're maybe on the right trajectory but they also might have drafted the worst QB last year and that can be toxic/crushing for a franchise
    nyg - smells like old people and worther's originals; maybe mara turns things around with these coming hires but idk
    carolina - going to be bottoming out with rhule and darnold soon

    i really want thibodeaux to end up in detroit somehow because the rest of these teams feel unusually poor compared to prior years

    (i know nfl teams can turn around very quickly so no need to bump this in two years)
     
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  39. MG2

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    These were the starting quarterbacks of teams who chose to either take other players or trade their pick in the back half of the top 10 rather than take what you're describing as a can't miss, top of the draft QB prospect. And your way disputing that is to recall last November, when you read some things on the internet where some people who don't run NFL teams suggested Fields and Lawrence were similar prospects.
     
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  40. Pelican

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    HOT TAKE: Lawrence and Fields will both be good. Ja’Marr Chase is also good.
     
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  41. Bankz

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    It was one of the best top end talent drafts in maybe a decade. QBs generally will take longer to develop and yet we get these spicy takes that Fields was just a prospects because he slipped from 1.2 to 1.11 because we all know that NFL front offices never make mistakes.
     
  42. Bankz

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    Carolina, Denver, New York probably regret the decision to pass up on Fields. Was Detroit looking at a QB with just acquiring Goff and that contract attached to him? Eagles were never drafting a QB it was clear they like Hurts as the long term solution.
     
  43. zeberdee

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    not sure this is true even now. it definitely wasn't true last offseason.
     
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  44. Bankz

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    They invested a high pick on him and moved on from Wentz. They didn't bring in anyone to compete with him, to me that looks like a franchise willing to give him the reigns.

    Given the draft capital they have could they move on and upgrade with an established QB... Sure. I highly doubt the Eagles are drafting a QB to come in and compete with Hurts.

    Edit: I don't follow the Eagles that closely so maybe they were in on Lawrence or a QB not named Fields in the draft and didn't have the capital idk. I'll trust you on that.
     
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  46. MG2

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    Good God, man.

    You're putting more stock in how internet writers viewed a player last November than how teams that actually draft the players viewed them when they were selected. And you're suggesting the teams are the ones who are prone to more mistakes. I'm sorry I responded to your first post with how sensitive you get about all this shit. Keep doing your thing.
     
  47. Bankz

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    Looks like I nailed Ridley and Jacobs...
     
  48. BamaNug

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    But Bankz loves to point out that Jacobs hasn't been great...behind, literally, the worst OL in the league.

    But let's only use the supporting cast argument for Fields.

    And ignore market share bullshit for Devontae Smith after one of the statistically best seasons for a CFB WR...who had a pretty damn good rookie season
     
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  49. zeberdee

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    the Wentz trade was about moving on from a guy with an albatross contract that didn't want to be there. they would have made that trade regardless if Hurts was on the roster.

    the Eagles were deep in on Fields last offseason and some people thought they might draft him.

    I don't think they take a QB in the first round this year, but I think that's much more about the class than Hurts. I think trading for a veteran is very much on the table.

    just because the odds are Hurts will be the QB next year, I don't think they're committed to him. I think they're constantly exploring options, but the circumstances need to be right for them to make a move.
     
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  50. Bankz

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    You came into this thread and said a players pre-draft evaluation was bullshit because he had a bad rookie season. And when I pushed back you changed the talking point to well he didn't go 1.2 and he went 1.11 and excellent front offices like the Giants, Broncos, Lions passed on him so clearly his evaluation was shit.

    All I'm saying is not just internet writers but people who worked in football and linked to front offices all raved about the QBs in the past draft. Fields, Lawrence were largely considered the top two guys in the draft at that spot. But Lance had a ton of tools but was raw with a huge upside. If you think I'm off on that so be it.