2023 NBA Draft Thread

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  5. MG2

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    According to Givony in his latest intel piece coming out of the combine, Miller has a letter from his lawyer saying he can't answer questions or talk about the murder because it's under investigation.

    Clearly he's not getting charged here, but the story also isn't going away and it's possible he could be tied up with lawsuits and whatnot (even if he really was just "wrong place, wrong time" or whatever they're saying) from this for years in a way that will continue to connect to the team that drafts him.
     
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  6. electronic

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    Would love to hear the justification behind this.
     
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  7. MG2

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    Here's the write-up from Givony:

    Team executives present at interviews said Miller arrived holding a legal brief written by his attorneys informing teams that he will not be able to comment on specific details regarding the shooting.

    A Tuscaloosa police investigator testified in February that Miller had received a text message from his former teammate, Darius Miles, to bring Miles' gun to the scene where Harris was killed. Miles and his friend, Michael Lynn Davis, were charged with capital murder -- Davis for allegedly firing the shot that killed Harris, and Miles for allegedly providing the gun.

    Teams that interviewed Miller in Chicago have privately expressed some concern regarding fallout that might still come in the form of a potential lawsuit or follow-up investigation with yet-to-be-released details and were hoping to get more information directly from him.

    Miller was also asked by reporters at the draft combine about what message he was hoping to convey to teams regarding the shooting, and he said the following: "The message I've presented to them is just it's all a lesson learned. You always have to be aware of your surroundings and know what you're surrounded by. I feel like the night could've changed my career in less than a heartbeat. So always be aware of your surroundings."

    The Hornets will likely have a degree of apprehension after Miles Bridges' felony domestic violence charges, for which he pleaded no contest and was suspended 30 games by the NBA. Bridges sat out the past season and is currently a free agent, but the front office would like to have him back on the roster next year, sources told ESPN.

    The Hornets' ownership situation is currently in flux, as Adrian Wojnarowski reported in March that Michael Jordan is in "serious talks to sell a majority stake in the franchise to a group led by Hornets minority owner Gabe Plotkin and Atlanta Hawks minority owner Rick Schnall." Jordan was awaiting the possibility of landing the No. 1 pick before deciding whether to proceed with a sale, sources told ESPN. It remains to be seen whether moving up to No. 2 changes that plan and what the timetable might look like if a sale did occur, as well as how that might affect the front offices' decision-making process in regard to who to draft.

    Charlotte is planning on sending its attorneys to Tuscaloosa this week to conduct their own investigation into Miller's involvement in the Jan. 6 shooting, Jackson told ESPN, and Miller plans to fly to Charlotte in mid-June for a workout and follow-up interview.

    Jackson reiterated there is no pending investigation into Miller, he did not break any laws and that he is "free and clear" of any wrongdoing. "The case is still open, and Brandon has had limited communication for that reason," Jackson said. "He's been cleared from day one. We were told by the attorneys not to speak about the situation. At the right time we can have that conversation, but for now, we're leaving it alone and will let the process complete itself."

    There's little doubt that teams will want Miller to answer more questions regarding the shooting, for which he is a "cooperating witness," according to the University of Alabama. How he handles those questions moving forward will likely play a role in where he's ultimately picked.
     
  8. electronic

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    Who is Jackson (underlined above) that’s being quoted here?
     
  9. bertwing

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    Millers agent is Wilmer Jackson
     
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    In that case, this statement:

    makes it sound like it’s Miller’s criminal defense attorney telling him not to speak.
     
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    I’m willing to bet the magic would happily surrender one of our picks for bridges in a heartbeat. He’s exactly what we need
     
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    Most likely, but I think we should at least be opening dialog.
     
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    FIRST ROUND
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    1. San Antonio Spurs
    Victor Wembanyama
    Metropolitans 92
    PF/C
    Age: 19.4



    The Spurs are as excited about landing Wembanyama as you'd expect: The word going around the combine was coach Gregg Popovich flew to France shortly after San Antonio won the lottery. Meanwhile, Wembanyama's season continues, with Metropolitans 92 advancing past Cholet and leading his former club, ASVEL, 2-0 in the LNB Pro A semifinals. A deep playoff run could mean Wembanyama's season runs right up to draft night, with June 20 presently the latest date the finals could end. -- Jeremy Woo

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    2. Charlotte Hornets
    Brandon Miller
    Alabama
    SF
    Age: 20.5


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    Miller's camp says it is hoping he can do enough on his June 10 visit in Charlotte to convince the Hornets to give him assurances they'll pick him at this spot, something that might hinge more on how he performs in his interview than his workout. He sat down with 12 teams at the draft combine in Chicago, but arrived holding a legal brief written by his attorneys informing teams that he would not be able to comment on specific details regarding his involvement in the lead-up to the fatal shooting of Jamea Jonae Harris. It's the biggest factor holding him back from being the easy choice at No. 2, as many expect to be the case in Charlotte. Miller's fit with Charlotte's roster looks ideal, and he is considered the front-runner here if he can do enough to alleviate off-court concerns. -- Givony

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    3. Portland Trail Blazers
    Scoot Henderson
    G League Ignite
    PG
    Age: 19.3


    Sources say Henderson is also very interested in Charlotte's situation and would welcome hearing his name called second, as much due to geographic proximity to his hometown of Marietta, Georgia, as the excitement over new ownership that is potentially taking over the Hornets organization this summer. If that doesn't materialize, landing in Portland and being mentored by Damian Lillard is also viewed as an attractive option. There's belief the two can play together along with last season's top-10 pick, Shaedon Sharpe, and that Henderson can eventually take the reins of the franchise in the coming years. -- Givony

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    4. Houston Rockets
    Amen Thompson
    Overtime Elite
    PG/SG
    Age: 20.3


    The Thompson twins have made themselves somewhat scarce in the pre-draft process thus far, measuring and doing interviews at the combine but electing not to hold a pro day. Like most of the top prospects, Thompson plans to conduct only 1-on-0 workouts for teams at this point. While his tantalizing upside makes him a candidate for the Rockets here, for now there's no foregone conclusion to draw at No. 4, particularly with steam gathering around James Harden's potential return to Houston. The proposition of finding backcourt touches for potentially all of Harden, Jalen Green and Kevin Porter Jr. seems less than ideal for Thompson's development. Whether the Rockets look to move this pick or stay put, No. 4 is where the draft truly opens up. -- Woo

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    5. Detroit Pistons
    Cam Whitmore
    Villanova
    SF
    Age: 18.8


    Whitmore helped his cause by putting his tremendous physical tools and overall talent on display at the WME pro day in Santa Barbara, California. Pretty much every NBA representative in attendance walked away highly impressed by the considerable long-term upside he possesses. It's not clear how Detroit views 34-year old Bojan Bogdanovic's timetable with its young roster despite his team-friendly contract that expires in 2025, but it's easy to see Whitmore's fit with the rest of the Pistons' young pieces, especially Cade Cunningham, Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duren. Whitmore will also be firmly in contention for Houston at No. 4, as the Rockets' confidence in landing James Harden could lead them more toward wing options, especially those with better floor-spacing potential such as Whitmore. -- Givony

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    6. Orlando Magic
    Ausar Thompson
    Overtime Elite
    PG/SG
    Age: 20.3


    Like his brother, Thompson might have a little wider range than you'd think, as he's an imperfect fit on paper for the teams in this range, and teams have lingering questions the twins will have to address in workout settings. The Magic are building around two focal offensive players in Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner, creating a need for shooting elsewhere on the floor, something Thompson doesn't necessarily provide yet. But because Orlando has two lottery picks, there's rationale to swing on upside at No. 6, then address that need more directly at No. 11. Thompson's work ethic and improving jumper should give teams some optimism that he'll be able to iron out his weaknesses, and his ability to play off the ball might fit with the Magic. -- Woo

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    7. Indiana Pacers
    Jarace Walker
    Houston
    PF
    Age: 19.7


    Many NBA eyebrows were raised last week when Walker called off his pro day appearance in Santa Barbara at the last minute, despite looking completely healthy on first glance. The immediate suspicion among teams was that a team has elected to "shut him down," something we'll likely learn more about depending on how his workout schedule evolves the next few weeks. Regardless of whether that's the case or not, Walker's fit on Indiana's roster looks extremely strong, as the Pacers don't have a player they can point to at his position who is a clear-cut starter long-term. Walker's defensive versatility, passing acumen and developing perimeter shooting prowess could be an ideal fit here. -- Givony

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    8. Washington Wizards
    Anthony Black
    Arkansas
    PG/SG
    Age: 19.3


    Black shot the ball well at his recent pro day, presumably a good sign for his pre-draft process, as he'll need to persuade prospective teams his jumper can reach a level that makes him an adequate off-ball threat. The Wizards, now under the leadership of former Clippers general manager Michael Winger, will presumably swing on the best prospect available but have long been seeking greater stability at lead guard, and could fulfill both criteria with this pick. Black's positional size, feel and two-way upside vibe with where the NBA game seems to be headed. -- Woo

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    9. Utah Jazz
    Jalen Hood-Schifino
    Indiana
    PG/SG
    Age: 19.9


    Hood-Schifino is one of the big winners of the measurements and pro day portions of the draft process, as he clearly possesses all-star-level physical tools with his tremendous size, frame and length for a point guard. Players with his caliber of upside tend to rise as we get closer to the draft. Many executives pivot into home run-swing mode at this stage of the lottery, especially teams like the Jazz who have three picks at their disposal and some clear holes to plug in the backcourt. -- Givony

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    10. Dallas Mavericks
    Taylor Hendricks
    UCF
    PF
    Age: 19.5


    The Dallas pick creates an intriguing swing spot in the lottery, with the Mavs looking to stay competitive around Luka Doncic and wielding this pick as a useful trade chip in improving the roster. That said, the Mavs should be in the market to improve their frontcourt no matter what, and grabbing Hendricks, who provides both rim protection and floor spacing, would be a feasible step in that direction. Hendricks is in play with teams all over the lottery due to his versatility and the intrinsic value of his skill set. -- Woo

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    11. Orlando Magic (via Chicago)
    Gradey Dick
    Kansas
    SG/SF
    Age: 19.5


    There's been some chatter that the Magic might not keep both of their lottery picks -- they should certainly have options if they choose to try to move around -- but a scenario like this where Dick is available to them at No. 11 could lead them to stay put. Orlando needs to surround Banchero and Wagner with shooting, and would achieve that here by adding one of the top shooters in the draft. Teams view Dick as a lock to come off the board in the lottery, and the Magic look like a nice landing spot. -- Woo

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    12. Oklahoma City Thunder
    Nick Smith Jr.
    Arkansas
    PG/SG
    Age: 19.1


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    Smith did a good job reminding teams why he was considered one of the most talented prospects in the class coming out of high school at the Klutch pro day, where he shot the ball well and looked healthier than he did during the season at Arkansas. Most NBA executives expect the Thunder to be active in trade discussions looking to potentially package this pick and future first-rounders in an attempt to move up on draft night, which makes sense considering the shortage of roster spots the Thunder could be working with moving forward with all the talent they've accumulated. -- Givony

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    13. Toronto Raptors
    Jordan Hawkins
    UConn
    SG
    Age: 21.0


    Although Hawkins is widely viewed as the top shooter in the draft, there's a bit of disagreement among executives as to where exactly he becomes worth the bet, whether that's late lottery range or further down. He's expected off the board somewhere between picks 11 and 19, offering NBA-ready movement shooting skills that many teams feel they can utilize immediately. The Raptors were near the bottom of the league in 3-point shooting last season and would certainly help address that need with Hawkins, whom teams view as a plug-and-play type of talent. -- Woo

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    14. New Orleans Pelicans
    Dereck Lively II
    Duke
    C
    Age: 19.2


    Lively is another player who generated significant buzz at the Klutch pro day, appearing to be in outstanding shape physically, shooting the ball exceptionally well from the perimeter and bringing a degree of intensity and aggressiveness we didn't always see in his lone season at Duke. He'll have to validate that in private workouts, but the dearth of big men in this class gives him the ability to be a riser on draft night, especially as teams consider the fact that he was the No. 1 recruit in his high school class entering the season. He seems to have plenty of upside left to tap into as his frame continues to fill out. -- Givony

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    15. Atlanta Hawks
    Keyonte George
    Baylor
    SG
    Age: 19.5


    Following a strong pro day in Chicago, George continues to jockey for position among a large group of guards expected off the board in the late lottery and teens. Although he elected not to measure or test at the combine, George appears to have worked himself into excellent shape, which might address -- to some extent -- teams' concerns over his physical profile. Teams still feel he has some maturing to do, but his skill level and gifts as a scorer have kept his stock somewhat stable -- if he falls out of the lottery, it shouldn't be too far. -- Woo

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    16. Utah Jazz (via Minnesota)
    Kobe Bufkin
    Michigan
    PG/SG
    Age: 19.6


    Bufkin looks to be well-established in this range of the draft, having set himself apart somewhat as a two-way contributor who can fulfill a range of needs in the backcourt. He measured well for a combo guard at north of 6-foot-4 barefoot, which helps him comparatively in this range, where his well-roundedness becomes a strong sell. Bufkin is in play for teams beginning in the late lottery and at this point would seem firmly entrenched in the top 20. -- Woo

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    17. Los Angeles Lakers
    Cason Wallace
    Kentucky
    PG/SG
    Age: 19.5


    Wallace measured better than expected at the draft combine but appears to have a bit of a wider range on draft night than other lottery candidates, as some teams don't view him as a surefire point guard or primary creator and others question his scoring credentials. Still, there aren't many better defenders in the class than Wallace. His strong dimensions (comparable to multipositional guards like De'Anthony Melton, Bruce Brown and Tyrese Maxey) give him significant versatility to tap into when paired with his excellent instincts and intensity level, especially when surrounded with talent on a playoff team. -- Givony

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    18. Miami Heat
    Jett Howard
    Michigan
    SG/SF
    Age: 19.7


    Howard is a bit of a polarizing prospect in this class, as he seems to have some real fans in NBA front offices, but also some teams weren't impressed at all with what they saw from him in Big Ten play as he was playing hurt. The way Howard shot the ball at the CAA pro day served as a good reminder for teams of the coveted role he can play, as there's clearly more to his game than just his jumper. He'll have to continue to perform well on the private workout circuit to solidify his standing. -- Givony

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    19. Golden State Warriors
    Rayan Rupert
    NZ Breakers
    SG/SF
    Age: 18.9


    Rupert is being selective with the teams he visits, prioritizing roster fit and strong development situations on playoff-caliber teams rather than trying to be selected as high as possible. Golden State's disappointing playoff exit revealed some issues the franchise will need to address with its aging roster. The Warriors' inability to get stops in key moments hurt them against the Lakers, so a defensive-minded prospect like Rupert -- who can wreak havoc all over the floor with his 7-2 wingspan and high intensity level -- could be interesting at this stage of the draft. -- Givony

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    20. Houston Rockets (via LA Clippers)
    Noah Clowney
    Alabama
    PF
    Age: 18.8


    Clowney's range appears somewhat wide, but his extreme youth, defensive instincts and shooting potential make him one of the more attractive first-round project options. He quietly built up a lot of fans in front offices over the course of the season and has yet to turn 19, making him an appealing development pick, particularly for teams in this part of the draft who can afford to bring him along slowly. -- Woo

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    21. Brooklyn Nets (via Phoenix)
    Bilal Coulibaly
    Metropolitans 92
    SG/SF
    Age: 18.8


    Coulibaly continues to play a key supporting role as Metropolitans 92 competes in the Pro A playoffs, scoring 15 points on 5-for-8 shooting in Tuesday's semifinal win against ASVEL. His production has been up and down, but it would appear he's on track to stay in the draft, having shown enough flashes alongside Wembanyama to justify a first-round selection. However, his team's success has left Coulibaly unable to work out for teams stateside, which puts him in a bit of flux, at least for the time being. -- Woo

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    22. Brooklyn Nets
    Leonard Miller
    G League Ignite
    SF/PF
    Age: 19.5


    Miller is a bit of a polarizing prospect in NBA circles. On one hand, he's coming off an incredibly productive season in the G League in which he averaged 17 points and 10 rebounds as a 19-year-old. On the other hand, teams question his shooting mechanics and feel for the game, as it's not quite clear what position or role he's best suited for long term. Ultimately, it's hard to find teenagers with the type of length, activity and scoring instincts Miller brings, which gives him real upside to grow into and makes him a strong candidate to be picked in the first round. -- Givony

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    23. Portland Trail Blazers (via New York)
    James Nnaji
    Barcelona
    C
    Age: 18.7


    Nnaji was originally scheduled to travel to Chicago and scrimmage at the draft combine, before Barcelona opted to have him remain with the team headed into the EuroLeague Final Four. That decision reflected the growth of his role but also meant a missed opportunity for Nnaji to showcase himself in the combine setting, where his physical tools likely would have set him apart in a thin class of centers. As Barcelona enters the ACB playoffs this week, Nnaji will have more time to showcase himself, but he remains more of a long-term bet who will benefit from the lack of quality bigs on the board in this draft. -- Woo

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    24. Sacramento Kings
    Kris Murray
    Iowa
    PF
    Age: 22.7


    After a playoff run that reenergized the franchise and changed the Kings' focus to competing now, they could prefer an experienced college prospect at this selection. In this scenario, it's Murray, with whom they're intimately familiar after drafting his twin brother, Keegan, last season. Reuniting the twins, low-maintenance players whose skill sets complement one another, could pay immediate dividends. But Kris' shooting ability has put him in play for teams beginning in the teens, so it's no guarantee he makes it this far. -- Woo

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    25. Memphis Grizzlies
    Brice Sensabaugh
    Ohio State
    SF/PF
    Age: 19.5


    Sensabaugh has been hobbled by a knee issue he suffered late in Ohio State's season, which required surgery and has thus far prevented him from conducting competitive team workouts, a source told ESPN. He nevertheless shot the ball well at his pro day last week -- according to teams that were present -- and recently got cleared to begin visiting and working out for teams, which should help reveal a better picture of where his draft stock lies in the coming weeks. -- Givony

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    26. Indiana Pacers (via Cleveland)
    Dariq Whitehead
    Duke
    SG/SF
    Age: 18.8


    Whitehead has been unable to conduct workouts following last month's foot surgery, leaving his stock something of a question mark entering June. That said, letting a player with his youth and pedigree slip toward the back of the first round might be a mistake on the part of teams, considering he's 18 years old and was never quite right during his freshman year at Duke. He would represent an intriguing opportunity in this range of the draft, and a young team like the Pacers, which can afford to be patient with his health and development, might make sense as a soft landing spot. -- Woo

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    27. Charlotte Hornets (via Denver)
    Brandin Podziemski
    Santa Clara
    SG
    Age: 20.2


    Podziemski had an excellent showing in the first game of the NBA draft combine, demonstrating impressive passing creativity, shot-making versatility and toughness on the glass. There's a clear niche for skilled guards in his mold who bring a strong feel for the game. He shot 45% from 3 this season, which has elevated his stock into first-round territory. -- Givony

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    28. Utah Jazz (via Philadelphia)
    Olivier-Maxence Prosper
    Marquette
    PF
    Age: 20.9


    Prosper had perhaps the single best performance at the combine, dropping 21 points and seven rebounds in just 22 minutes of action, mostly through pure hustle and activity. He fits a clear mold NBA teams are actively pursuing with his defensive versatility, 7-1 wingspan and budding perimeter shooting, causing him to keep his name in the draft after strong feedback. -- Givony

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    29. Indiana Pacers (via Boston)
    Colby Jones
    Xavier
    SF
    Age: 21.0


    With the Nos. 27, 29 and 32 picks all in hand, it seems unlikely the Pacers keep all three of those selections. This is a prime spot for another team to potentially trade up or into the draft if Indiana doesn't move up itself. Jones makes for an easy fit in most rotations with an unselfish, versatile style of play that could make him an immediate value add for teams off the bench. He's in play for teams all over the back part of the first round. -- Woo

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    30. LA Clippers (via Milwaukee)
    Maxwell Lewis
    Pepperdine
    SF
    Age: 20.8


    After an uneven season at Pepperdine, Lewis has one of the bigger ranges of any player in the class, as he's receiving interest from teams already in the late lottery extending throughout the first round. There aren't many prospects with more natural talent in this stage than Lewis, who stands 6-7½ in shoes with a 7-foot wingspan and diverse shot-making and shot-creation prowess. Lewis' performance in private workouts, where he thus far has excelled, should provide a better gauge of where his draft range lies ultimately. -- Givony

    SECOND ROUND
    31. Detroit Pistons

    Jaime Jaquez Jr. | UCLA | SF | Age: 22.2

    32. Indiana Pacers (via Houston)

    Andre Jackson Jr. | UConn | SG/SF | Age: 21.5

    33. San Antonio Spurs

    Gregory Jackson II | South Carolina | PF | Age: 18.4

    34. Charlotte Hornets

    Julian Phillips | Tennessee | SF | Age: 19.5

    35. Boston Celtics (via Portland)

    Tristan Vukcevic | Partizan | PF/C | Age: 20.2

    36. Orlando Magic

    Ben Sheppard | Belmont | SF | Age: 21.8

    37. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Washington)

    Marcus Sasser | Houston | PG/SG | Age: 22.6

    38. Sacramento Kings (via Indiana)

    Trayce Jackson-Davis | Indiana | PF/C | Age: 23.2

    39. Charlotte Hornets (via Utah)

    Jordan Walsh | Arkansas | SF/PF | Age: 19.2

    40. Denver Nuggets (via Dallas)

    Sidy Cissoko | G League Ignite | SG/SF | Age: 19.1

    41. Charlotte Hornets (via Oklahoma City)

    Dillon Mitchell | Texas | PF | Age: 19.6

    42. Washington Wizards (via Chicago)

    Terquavion Smith | NC State | SG | Age: 20.4

    43. Portland Trail Blazers (via Atlanta)

    Reece Beekman | Virginia | PG | Age: 21.6

    44. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto)

    Jalen Wilson | Kansas | SF/PF | Age: 22.5

    45. Memphis Grizzlies (via Minnesota)

    Amari Bailey | UCLA | PG | Age: 19.2

    46. Atlanta Hawks (via New Orleans)

    Kobe Brown | Missouri | PF/C | Age: 23.4

    47. Los Angeles Lakers

    Zach Edey | Purdue | C | Age: 21.0

    48. LA Clippers

    Adem Bona | UCLA | C | Age: 20.1

    49. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Golden State)

    Keyontae Johnson | Kansas St. | SF | Age: 23.0

    50. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Miami)

    Mouhamed Gueye | Washington St. | PF/C | Age: 20.5

    51. Brooklyn Nets

    DaRon Holmes II | Dayton | PF/C | Age: 20.7

    52. Phoenix Suns

    Seth Lundy | Penn State | SG/SF | Age: 23.1

    53. Minnesota Timberwolves (via New York)

    Bobi Klintman | Wake Forest | SF/PF | Age: 20.2

    54. Sacramento Kings

    Coleman Hawkins | Illinois | PF | Age: 21.4

    55. Indiana Pacers (via Cleveland)

    Terrence Shannon Jr. | Illinois | SG/SF | Age: 22.8

    56. Memphis Grizzlies

    Julian Strawther | Gonzaga | SF | Age: 21.1

    57. Washington Wizards (via Boston)

    Hunter Tyson | Clemson | SF/PF | Age: 22.9

    58. Milwaukee Bucks

    Emoni Bates | Eastern Michigan | SG/SF | Age: 19.3

    Note: The Chicago Bulls and Philadelphia 76ers each forfeited a 2023 second-round draft pick.
     
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  21. Shawn Hunter

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    Same. But for me it's because I barely watch college basketball anymore. Not for lack of players staying around multiple years.
     
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    that's true to an extent for me as well
     
  23. I used to like having super strong opinions on prospects based on watching like 50 mins of their career. Now that i can only judge them on 15 min youtube clips i’m out
     
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  25. heelsfan530

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    Does anyone here think the Hornets should take Miller over Scoot?
     
  26. LuPoor

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    I'm not sure, but I think whoever they take will be the wrong choice.
     
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    Seems to be a decent consensus on the mocks with a caviat of him not bombing the interview with them
     
  28. heelsfan530

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    Seems crazy to me
     
  29. MG2

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    I can't remember being more confused about what to think about a potential 5 pick as I am about the Thompson brothers. I am equal parts intrigued and terrified of them as prospects, and every time I start to lean in one of those directions I completely flip my opinion on them.
     
  30. Celemo

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    this is where I was a month or so when we were projected to pick at #5, really talked myself into wanting Jarace Walker.

    Walker is probably the guy that I always seem to lock onto every damn year and covet...much like Sochan last year and Saddiq Bey a couple years back.
     
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  31. Handcuffed

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    Strictly in terms of just basketball -- yes. I don't know what to make of the gun issues (or even injury/healthy problems) and how that should affect his candidacy so just talking in terms of basketball prospects and on-the-court stuff.

    I'm not spending a lot of time scouting the draft class so i'm not going to care if i'm 100% wrong on this in three years. Scoot may have an awesome feel for the game, be a great athlete, etc. but he's 6'2 and you are still projecting his development on defense and with his shooting. as a result, his floor as a prospect feels so much lower than Miller's. and, again, because of his size, i'm not sure his ceiling is more valuable than miller's ceiling. westbrook/prime john wall were great players but (speaking as a fan of a team who has been completely unable to acquire or draft a good two-way wing for 10 years) it seems way easier to build a winner around what Miller could turn into (if you consider his ceiling to be like 90% of paul george or tatum).

    if charlotte takes miller, i actually sort of expect Portland to take one of the Thompson twins (if they are forced to use the pick and can't work a trade). mike schmitz had them high on his last published "future draft board" and seemingly loves the bigger ultra-athletes. after a decade of dame+cj+simons, it seems like the franchise has decided big >> small and i am ready for it.
     
  32. LuPoor

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    They're huge superfreak athletes with questionable skills at this point yeah? We've seen this a thousand times before
     
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    Saw a writeup on one of them that described him as a "thermonuclear" athlete then went on to talk about how he shot 25% from 3 and made questionable decisions
     
  34. Mister Me Too

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    It seems like the majority of the draft is comprised of a bunch of freak athletes with questionable skills. If you took a shot every time they say “he will be great if he develops a jump shot” during the draft you’ll likely die of alcohol poisoning.
     
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  35. MG2

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    They're coming from a league that just started where they played on the same team and were older than pretty much everyone else in it. They're older than some sophomores coming out. I want to like them but the warning signs seem to be plentiful.
     
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  38. 20/20/20/20

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    What? Why would Houston want to move those picks for Harden?
     
  39. 20/20/20/20

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    Hell no.
     
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  40. heelsfan530

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    Me either but we seem to be in the minority
     
  41. 20/20/20/20

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    :feelsbadman:
     
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  43. BudKilmer

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    Don’t Texans pay more in taxes ?
     
  44. Celemo

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    No State Income Tax…if memory serves
     
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    :windsy:
     
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    Hate that my own state is associated with this sort of regressive taxation policy :killme:
     
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  48. EdmondDantes

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    how many more fucking years of eligibility does Edey have, pretty sure he was there for the end of the Keady years
     
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    Everyday Texans do in relation to the rest of the country. Laws are set up just right for millionaires, or future millionaires like Vic
     
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