2023 NFL Draft Thread

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  1. TrustyPatches

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    This is crazy talk
     
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  2. Jax Teller

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    Call me crazy but I don't think Stroud's 66.3 completion % last year puts him in another world of accuracy compared to Young's 64.5%.

    And Stroud 100% had better receivers last year and in 2021.
     
  3. zeberdee

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    I don't know where people get this notion that Bama fans are thin-skinned.
     
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  4. fucktx

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  5. TrustyPatches

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    I don’t even have skin
     
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  6. LuPoor

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    All those titles and every one of them is still miserable
     
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  7. Upton^2

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    We need the chiefs to draft a Bama player and see who gets the most defensive first
     
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  8. Vito Corleone

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    Chiefs drafting a Jahmyr Gibbs in the first round would create a board schism
     
  9. Chumbolone

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  10. 20/20/20/20

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    a) that is a weird caption for what the chart is actually showing
    b) catchable vs uncatchable pass is a pretty simplistic way to judge 'accuracy'
     
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  11. Vito Corleone

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    That's the one stat you can glean some form of justification for taking Levis in the first
     
  12. DirtBall

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    Especially when using it to measure accuracy “under pressure”. Pretty common for QBs to throw the ball away to avoid a sack while under pressure no?
     
  13. Escanor

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    Take away Strouds 10-26 in 80 mph winds and it looks a little different. I did hear that Brice played a game below 70 degrees and only partly sunny once though…..
     
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  14. Bankz

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    I don't understand why you can't put bias aside to just understand that people who like AR and rank him high are doing it because they believe he's got maybe the biggest ceiling of the QB class.

    Young is far from a perfect prospect, he's got flaws as a passer to go along with his measurables. Measurables alone make Young's chances of being an All-Pro QB very very low. That's not to say he can't be an outlier but that's just facts.
     
  15. Bankz

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    Also I think big time throw is a very good indicator on how good a QB is/can be...



    sneak peak into 2024 draft... Drake Maye QB1
     
  16. harvey birdman

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    Has there ever been a good Briles’ offensive system NFL QB? Feel like barring injury RGIII would have been but feels like that system is the definition of a fake offense. I know it also hasn’t been the most talented 5 stars that have run it this far.
     
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  17. Bankz

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    Eating a banana whole and putting mayo in coffee literally turned all these draft analyst and pundits brains into shit for over a year. Will Levis 1.1 GTFO... I blame the ESPN marketing machine. They wanted that white boy to be a star so badly. Dude got beat out by Sean Clifford...
     
  18. Chumbolone

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    Drew Pyne lol
     
  19. Chumbolone

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    Do you assume this statistic is measured algorithmically, by a computer? Or do you presume PFF analysts cannot differentiate between garbage throwaways and genuine attempts?
     
  20. westcoastbias

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    Is it a safe assumption that the pressures measured for AR were a high percentage of random unpredictable breakdowns from shitty OL play and the pressures for Bryce Young we’re mostly blitzes that he could see coming before the snap and less shitty OL breakdowns?

    I didn’t watch many games for either but that would definitely impact accuracy for a qb if you know where the pressures coming from before the snap vs your RG tripping on his dick and the dl blowing up the pocket.
     
  21. Bankz

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    AR just makes bad decisions. Same could be said for CJ but CJ's didn't results in the turnovers probably because he placed the balls better and he had much better talent at the skill positions to bail him out.
     
  22. JGator1

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    No. AR can’t anticipate guys being open and holds onto the ball too long which accounts for part of this. I and many others suspect he wanted to prove he could throw and refused to run even he when should’ve, also contributes to the stat.
     
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  23. MG2

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  24. herb.burdette

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    It’s musical chairs and when the music stops, you get stuck with Levis.
     
  25. ohhaithur

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    I'm hearing it's the Bears straight up for Fields
     
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  26. Illinihockey

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    Ballard patiently waiting for the 4th qb to fall to him
     
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  27. Harry Twatter

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    The thing is, AR wasn’t really accurate even with good protection and no pressure.
     
  28. Clown

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    I always knew Graham Mertz was a star, nobody remember this in September
     
  29. Vito Corleone

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    PFF now makes you pay to use their Mock Draft Simulator.

    I don't know how I'm going to spend my time on Teams meetings now, ugh
     
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  30. Fancy

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    The woke mob strikes again!
     
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  31. Bankz

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    There are multiple other sites who offer mock sims
     
  32. MG2

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  33. skiedfrillet

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    the location of DJU on this graph has me questioning the veracity of the data
     
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  34. Illinihockey

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  35. ned's head

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    He kicked our ass hard enough to make up for every other stinky throw he made
     
  36. MG2

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    The PFF one sucks because their draft board sucks. And this one (and some others) offer you trades, which can be fun sometimes although they're almost always unrealistic in terms of value. Stuff like this one is just more fun for me to waste 5-10 minutes looking for a few different ideas.
     
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  37. Bankz

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  38. FTK

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    And Mertz
     
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  39. Matt Foley

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    Sample size on the “perfectly blocked” axis for Tank Bigsby is likely in the single digits.
     
  40. Gunners

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    There’s a strong chance the Mertz family bribes PFF
     
  41. Yanks711

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    Just did this for the Bengals and went:
    28 - Michael Mayer
    60 - Antonio Johnson
    87 - Zach Charbonnet
     
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  42. westcoastbias

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    3 rounds with a few trades. GM of the year:

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    Got Herbert the game breaker and a 6th lineman that catches a little.
     
  43. Handcuffed

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    gotta just keep trading down. stock the cupboards for the next gm.

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  44. Charles DeMar

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    Hendon Hooker to the Hawks at 5 :awesomeface:

     
  45. seanofthedead86

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    I got nothing but love for Hendon but that would be ridiculously stupid.
     
  46. southlick

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  47. BudKilmer

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    Colts should take Paris Johnson or Skoronski at 4,
    And trade for Lamar after the draft. 24/25 picks won’t be top 5 next year.

    Baltimore should call and ask for 4, a 2 this year and a 2 next year and see what crazy ass Irsay does
     
  48. hood b. goode

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    Lamar in a dome / Indy would be must see TV
     
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