2023 NFL Thread

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Hank Scorpio, Feb 12, 2023.

  1. ned's head

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    Baltimore deserves Richardson as their penalty for goofing with lamar imo
     
  2. bro

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  3. ohhaithur

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    that's not how golf works!
     
  4. CaneKnight

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    You could say this about a few NFL teams. Chicago, New England and Carolina come to mind
     
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  5. zeberdee

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    what are his sleep habits and nutrition?

    is that like a known thing?
     
  6. bro

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    he often poops his pants

    #facts
     
  7. MG2

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    I need someone who knows what the hell is going on to write a book about the last 2 years of the Ravens/Lamar saga. So little has come out from either side except for the one Baltimore offer before the 22 season. I'm just very confused by all of it, and unfortunately it seems pretty likely this story is going to continue to play out for another year or two.
     
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  8. Hank Scorpio

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    really hoping for some wild trades on draft night with Lamar and Rogers.
     
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  9. bro

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  10. CF3234

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  11. ned's head

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    Mike McDaniel looks like an equipment manager who was accidentally named coach one day and everyone just ran with it
     
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  12. 20/20/20/20

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    Low vibration foods.
     
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  13. MG2

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    If he's making this public now, they must not be close at all on whatever those talks were.

     
  14. Vito Corleone

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    Mike McDaniel is likeable enough to almost cancel out how terrible Stephen Ross is
     
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  15. southlick

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  16. bro

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    Who needs an agent when you have meek mill

     
  17. southlick

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  18. goheels10

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    I really have no clue what to make of this Lamar situation.

    a lot of really smart people I listen to feel like this is bad for the ravens no matter if he ends up going to a new team, sitting out, or playing for them next season. Just feels so hard to believe that such a smart franchise made such a weird decision.
     
  19. Homo Erectus

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    Not a Ravens fan, however Lamar does seem like a pain in the ass. Didn't he skip the playoff game bc he wasn't playing? If so, that's a bitch move.
     
  20. MG2

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    If Lamar is able to get something like Watson got, do people think that ultimately leads to non-franchise QBs being able to get those kinds of deals any time in the relatively near future (next 3-5 years)? My first reaction is no, which is why on some level I think this whole thing about the importance of it could be massively overblown, but I'm open to the premise.
     
  21. seanofthedead86

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    Lamar Jackson got COVID twice and still refused to get the vaccine.
     
  22. 49ers169

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    He sure seemed like they will be listening on Lance come next month.

    What a waste of a pick but he needs to get a shot.

    Sucks it won’t be in SF.
     
  23. GoodForAnother

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    anyway chiefsaholic removed his ankle monitor and skipped bail
     
  24. Yanks711

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    so at what point do we think the Ravens start to say fuck this and try and make the best of the situation?
     
  25. killerwvu

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    I don't see them giving him the deal he wants. Their whole thing is to spend big on the top players at non premium positions.
     
  26. 20/20/20/20

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    Well if someone signs him to an offer sheet and they don’t match, they get two 1sts as compensation.

    So they would need to get something at least as valuable as that in a trade return.
     
  27. LA window washer

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    He’d be likable if he wasn’t blatantly not caring if Tua dies on the field.

    Edit: I also realize I quoted the wrong post but, fuck it.
     
  28. Yanks711

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    I'm assuming he won't be back in Baltimore at this point
     
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  29. Pelican

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    Had to get a warm body at least so I’ll take it.

     
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  30. Yanks711

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    Saw they signed Sidney Jones as a 4th CB today as well
     
  31. BudKilmer

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    im obsessed with this story
     
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  32. Redav

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    Prob nothing. Smells like classic bullshit owners pull trying to knock down the price
     
  33. BudKilmer

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    Daniel Jones got 40mm, any Lamar argument is basically posturing
     
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  34. Whammy Business

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    I think Lamar really needs to eat the 1-3% an agent would cost him and put this baby to bed one way or another.
     
  35. ScFan27

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    edit - you right
     
  36. seanofthedead86

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    I don't think the issue is paying him the $40+mil per year, it's the guaranteed amount.
     
  37. MG2

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    If Lamar only wants a guaranteed deal, seems like his best shot would be a compromise or either...

    3/$150M or 4/$180M

    Both of those seem reasonable to me if that's his #1 priority. Baltimore seems much more likely to do the second than the first, but I feel like that's a pretty simple compromise here.
     
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  38. Andy Reocho

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    I don't feel every player/athlete needs an agent, but I do think that top level quarterbacks 100% should.
     
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  39. Vito Corleone

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    Not having an agent to negotiate for a rookie deal is wise

    Not having one and relying on your mother for a quarter billion dollar QB deal is well past moronic
     
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  40. Detlef Schrempf

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    3 for 150 fully guaranteed would be what I would want. Collect all the cash hit the market again in three years, cash in again. Kirk Cousins sucks, but he’s been very smart in leveraging and maximizing his value.
     
  41. bro

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    don't worry, he has meek mill in his corner
     
  42. MG2

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    Andrew Brandt talked about that when Lamar made the "they offered 3/$133M guaranteed" tweet. His point was basically "fine, if you're only guaranteeing me three years, I'll take the 3/$133M and chop off the rest so I can hit the market again in my 20s." He doesn't think Baltimore would do it back then, but I bet they would now.

    $133M seems a bit low, but at this point anything in the $140s guaranteed over 3 sees like a win for both parties, IMO.
     
  43. Gritty Badger

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    One part of the massive guaranteed money for a QB that no one is talking about is the cash on hand required to complete these deals.

    3 for 150 or 4 for 180 fully guaranteed on paper is a deal the Ravens might want to do but they then have to immediately put at least 75% of that in escrow in cash the second the contract is signed. Is Biscotti struggling to get the cash together for Lamar's deal while still having enough cash on hand to make other deals down the road? He might be fine and its a moot point but I think it "could" be an issue here.

    Some ownership groups always have the liquid assets to handle these massive deals while others struggle to find the cash. Its one of the major factors in FA contracts every year(sometimes even more important than available cap space) but the NFL media never reports on it
     
  44. goheels10

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    this is very true and an excellent point. for some reason I had it in my head that 100% of guaranteed $ had to be put in escrow. I could be wrong though.

    edited ^
     
  45. MG2

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    They offered him $133M guaranteed over the first three years (allegedly), so that would seem to suggest they're at least close to that number, right?

    And if they really can't afford that level of guarantee to him, I feel like they would be trying to trade him right now instead of whatever they're doing at the moment.
     
  46. Whammy Business

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    I think it hurts in both possible scenarios. I don’t think the Ravens particularly want to deal with a member of his inner circle, and I can imagine any potential trade partners are willing to fork over a handful of draft picks to do the same.
     
  47. 20/20/20/20

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    The Ravens have plenty of cash available in Silicon Valley Bank, that’s not the issue.
     
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  48. Jigga

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    Bankz has a safe deposit box there with his keeper league trophies
     
  49. killerwvu

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    A good agent can help a rookie through the draft process, prep for interviews, etc