2024 NFL Draft Thread

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  1. Upton^2

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    It’s ok to just admit you took Gibbs too high
     
  2. MG2

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    There are 20 different posts I've made in the last 3 days saying that
     
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  3. Boo MFer!

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    A lot of smart people are saying Billy will continue his pattern of pumping out top 5 pick QBs with Graham Mertz being the next.
     
  4. CTownND

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    Someone will fall in love with Caleb at #1 but Joe Alt could very well end up #2

     
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  5. Mr. Bean

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    Generational talents at any position (except specialists) are going to be taken in the top 10

    Bowers is a generational talent in my view
     
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  7. Hank Scorpio

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    I agree. If the Cardinals or Texans have the top pick, they are going to get a haul and probably still position themselves to take the best non-QB.
     
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  8. Fecta23

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    This is pretty good though
     
  9. Fecta23

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    Thats the thing with RBs, even if they are all pro level players its still a bad pick.
     
  10. MG2

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    that's dumb
     
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  11. Fecta23

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    It’s not. Because how much better does an Austin Ekler type player (he’s awesome) than a Tyson Algers type ? It’s not really significant.

    To use your logic in an extreme way it’s like saying taking a kicker in the first round is fine if he ends up as an all pro.

    I think Adrian Peterson is the last first round RB that was actually worth the pick and he’s arguably the most talented runner in the history of the NFL.
     
  12. harvey birdman

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    CMC because of what he does in the passing game.
     
  13. MG2

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    A kicker can't produce enough value to where he's one of the 32 best players in a draft. A running back can. That's a ridiculous comparison. My "logic" isn't literally "if you make All-Pro you're a 1st rounder".
     
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  14. MG2

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    Derrick Henry went in the 2nd round in 2016, in part because "you can't take a RB in the first round!" Anyone who looks back at that class and thinks he hasn't produced 1st round value to this point is either lying to themselves or stupid.

    The idea of "can't take a RB/TE/LB in round 1" is generally based on the idea that you can find players at those positions later in the draft. And it's true. I'm not arguing with data/math here. But if you happen to take one of those positions in the first round, and that player happens to reach or clear the high bar for a player at those positions with those draft picks, it's just dumb to act like "welp, you're still wrong and should have taken a worse player instead".

    That goes for Pitts two years ago, Kyle Hamilton last year, Robinson/Gibbs this year, and Bowers next year. The bar is high for those positions, and we'll see if they reach or clear it.
     
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  15. harvey birdman

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    I don’t think the Giants regret taking Saquon or the Raiders Josh Jacobs
     
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  16. herb.burdette

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    Marv is great, but QB is too high in demand.
     
  17. bro

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  18. Boo MFer!

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    I don’t have a sub. Can you tell me if Mertz is top 3 or just top 5? Thanks.
     
  19. Dillingham

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    `12ft.io has been disabled for this site. wonder if they get paid or threatened with a lawsuit by athletic/nyt
     
  20. bro

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    *red alert* Gallant Knight *red alert*

    PSU has 3 players in the top 15
     
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  21. bro

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    no Penix respect
     
  22. Gallant Knight

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    Anthony Richardson was the 4th overall pick. NFL draft doesn’t care if you’re good in college
     
  23. bro

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    that makes no sense and is only unique QBs. Pretty sure the NFL cares whether an OT, DE, and CB are good in college.
     
  24. Gallant Knight

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    Definitely don’t look at which games the d end had sacks.
     
  25. bro

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    you mean this guy:

    He put up 40 pressures and nearly a 20 percent win rate last season in fewer than 300 snaps.
     
  26. Gallant Knight

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    And their defense gave up 85 points to the only two good teams they played
     
  27. bro

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    :laugh:

    I guess McKinstry and Turner for Bama aren't top 9 guys because they got torched by UT
     
  28. DeToxRox

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    Pretty massive news
     
  29. Corch

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    The Senior Bowl is a lot more interesting. Maybe split the teams between seniors and under classmen
     
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  30. ButchCassidy

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    I wonder how many juniors will participate, and risk injury.
     
  31. Vito Corleone

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    Good. Senior Bowl practices seem to give best barometer of probable success given its sample size/
     
  32. Redav

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    Yeah Idk how many guys will leave early and then think they need to prove themselves in these games.
     
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  33. Cornelius Suttree

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    do NFL defenses play a lotta man coverage?

    Per an ESPN+ article Maye is only completing 42.2% of his passes against those looks -- the national average is 51.5%
     
  34. Corch

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    I can't imagine the surefire first rounders will but I think it's smart if you're not one of those guys.

    According to Yahoo, 82 underclassmen declared last year so I would guess the majority would find it beneficial.
     
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  35. southlick

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  36. southlick

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    2024 NFL Mock Draft: Bears replace Justin Fields with Panthers pick, add WR; Pats, Giants also go QB in top 10
    Let's go crazy at the quarterback position

    By Chris Trapasso

    13 hrs ago•1 min read

    OK, so we haven't had six quarterbacks in the first round in the NFL Draft since 1983. You know what I say to that? Let's make it happen again! The planets have aligned for the 2024 draft to be oozing with top-tier quarterback talent and, vitally, there will be plenty of teams looking to draft a young passer.

    While I'm not insinuating no trades or free agent adds will occur at the quarterback spot in the offseason, the Ryan Tannehill-to-the-Titans trend has worn off after the vast majority of veteran quarterback acquisitions have flopped since his revitalization in Tennessee.

    Important: The draft order now is determined by the current, official draft order.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...pick-add-wr-pats-giants-also-go-qb-in-top-10/
     
  37. Gunners

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  38. hood b. goode

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  39. Boo MFer!

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    Lol at comparing the “responsibilities” of a fourth year NFL player and a college kid. Ridiculously unfair to the kid.
     
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  40. Hank Scorpio

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  41. Gritty Badger

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    bankz school of wr scouting
     
  42. Nug

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    I think Harrison is going to be a star

    I think Caleb Williams is going to bust. And as a fan of Alabama quarterbacks, I know a bust when I see one!
     
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  43. danny2430

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    People like Alt better than Fashanu?
     
  44. The Banks

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  45. Homo Erectus

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    I think Harrison & Bowers should go to the Chiefs. The leagues more fun to watch when teams put up video game numbers.

    Mahomes would put up 50 TDs in a season.
     
  46. NoNatty

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    I’m not saying Harrison isn’t good or lazy. I just feel like the value add of WR top 5 versus a WR in the 15-30 range isn’t that different.
     
  47. ned's head

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  48. Hank Scorpio

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    That's a Barstool Sports application if I've ever seen one
     
  49. dump

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    Rome Odunze is my WR1 outside of MHJ

    its honestly not even close outside of those two