2025 MLB Thread - RIP Bob Uecker

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  1. 40wwttamgib

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  2. theregionsitter

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  3. ZeroPointZero

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  4. MG2

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    Wish he was going to give 3B a try instead of 2B. He's a really good fit at the plate and fills a massive need. Hate what it does to our infield. Likely means Colt Keith moves to 1B.

    I would love it if we jumped into the Teoscar bidding considering that seems to have died considerably from what it was rumored to be a month ago, but I don't think it's in the cards for this front office/owner to spend on anyone long term. Especially with a draft pick attached.
     
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  5. dblplay1212

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    Curious what Gleyber got.
     
  6. MG2

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    1 year $15M
     
  7. tylerdolphin

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    Damn, figured his last 1/3 of the year got him back into decent multi year deal territory. Figured maybe 3/45 or something. Nice deal for the Tigers.
     
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  8. Bert Handsome

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    Keith is going to get 1b, 2b, 3b eligibility and I am going to over draft in fantasy because I am a sucker for that
     
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  9. MG2

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    From the limited reporting I've seen this morning after the signing, it sounds like he turned down anything that would have moved him off 2B, which I would assume took away a lot of interest considering how bad the metrics look there.

    From the Tigers' perspective, if this means they get a motivated, in shape version who actually cares enough to pay attention and try defensively and on the bases, this is a really good deal. If it's the same version as NYY, it's basically just trading adding a bat at the expense of defense and not really getting much out of it.
     
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  10. MG2

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    I don't think he'll have 3 eligibility unless your league really carries over minor league positions multiple years into the big leagues. He didn't play any 3B last year and based on the reporting over the last month, they have no plans on ever moving him back there. He likely gets you the 1b/2b spot by mid-April, though.
     
  11. Bert Handsome

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    Ahh, just knew he was 2/3 last year. With how many teams platoon first baseman now 1st/2nd is probably just as useful.
     
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  12. MG2

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    Will be interesting to see if they are giving up the Tork dream entirely and playing Keith every day, or if they try platooning them.
     
  13. dblplay1212

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    I'd have taken him back for that and I'm not even a huge fan.
     
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  14. gus_chiggins

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  15. LeonardWashington

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  16. MG2

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    Really seemed like this was going to be much higher in the lead up to Soto's deal, but maybe he also left a little out there to go back to LAD.

     
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  17. Charles DeMar

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    While I believe every team could defer, I don’t think some teams could do so at this rate



     
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  18. bwi2

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    I’m confused - he’s citing one example where the owners had to sell based on deferrals and another where the deferrals cratered the team’s ability to compete for 5+ years as models others should follow?
     
  19. MG2

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    The Ohtani deal alone would be insane for anyone else (and probably is for the Dodgers, too). That's a full decade of $78M or whatever it is every year on top of whatever your actual payroll is.
     
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  20. bwi2

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    Why doesn’t every team negotiate a $300 million local media deal backed by a corporate conglomerate that won’t go belly up like Bally’s?
     
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  21. Gunners

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    Those are embarrassing tweets
     
  22. Bert Handsome

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    The extremes on both sides are exhausting. The Dodgers are spending a lot of money right now just like big markets have forever. Without deferring $ is it the most in history? If it is, I'd that a problem? I don't know the answer to either. But if you are going to bitch about it do the math and discount the money and compare.

    It is neither a cheat code nor is it some revelation
     
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  23. Bert Handsome

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  24. MG2

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    At the start of the offseason, everyone was projecting 3-4 years at $22-24M per. But at the start of December there was a ton of buzz by the insiders that the teams in on Soto (Boston, NYY, LAD, NYM) were all in on Hernandez, too, and Hernandez was going to wait for Soto and potentially cash in off that draft. Apparently that wasn't really a thing.
     
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  25. Gunners

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    What math? There’s way too many variables in play. They’re simply circumventing outrageous luxury tax fines.

    If this deferred money counts towards payroll in those upcoming years, these bills are gonna be astronomical
     
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  26. Tex

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  27. MG2

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    Well that came out of nowhere. #MysteryTeam
     
  28. joey jo-jo jr shabadoo

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    wonder where hes going in two years
     
  29. The Goat

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    I don't understand anything of this but it isn't my money and he is fun to watch.

    Lot of money tied up in the rotation now with some underperformers. Gotta feel like there are some other moves coming considering the lineup needs some work.
     
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  30. burnttatertot

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    Didn't he use to play there?
     
  31. dblplay1212

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    No. Milwaukee and O's.
     
  32. burnttatertot

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    Disregard, that was Patrick Corbin.
     
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  33. MG2

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    I figured we would see Montgomery's name in more trade rumors after the owner shit all over him at the end of the year. He was horrible and no one would want to pay that salary, but looking at the 1-year deals guys like Buehler and Cobb got and someone would probably take on at least 75% of it.
     
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  34. MG2

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    I feel like mentioning Corbin at all is like a potential curse being put on this signing.
     
  35. MG2

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    Poor Blue Jays and Giants continue to not be able to get people to take their money. Giants at least got Adames.

    I'm also confused by Baltimore's tactics beyond them just being insanely cheap. They had a payroll around $110M last year. They're estimated around $135M for next year. They now need at least 2-3 starters if they want to contend and I'm not sure what the point of that rebuild was if now isn't the time to go for it.
     
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  36. Gunners

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    I don’t understand 2-3 starters away, where?

    Would like to upgrade Mountcastle but see only 1 big, glaring hole
     
  37. MG2

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    I don't think your current starting rotation has a legitimate, playoff-worthy #1 or 2 starter in it. Saying you need 2-3 starting pitchers was probably dumb, but unless Grayson Rodriguez takes a massive step forward I think your starting rotation is mediocre for a team that should be a playoff lock.
     
  38. MG2

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    Imagine playing for a team that won't allow grown men to grow facial hair. Couldn't be me. No longer has to be Gleyber. Good for him. That kind of freedom is probably worth an extra 10 HRs.

     
  39. devine

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    We just need one star like aaron judge to say I’m not signing unless you let me grow a beard to get this stupid racist schtick to end. Can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet
     
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  40. zeberdee

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    they have over $2B committed to ten players. feels like a lot and not something we’ve seen before.
     
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  41. MG2

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    Over $2B committed to 7 players
     
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  42. Gunners

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    Sounds like Os offered at least what DBacks did, I’m fine with it. Guess the cheap owners narrative will continue though.
     
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  43. tylerdolphin

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    I'm a Yankees fan and if I were a MLB FA I think I'd need a premium to sign with the Yankees specifically for that reason.

    Honestly if I'm Soto and getting generational money either way I'd probably just use the Yankees to drive things up and never sign simply because of that policy.
     
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  44. Celemo

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  45. gus_chiggins

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  46. JGator1

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    That's gonna be a no for me dawg. Catchers should get some kinda bump up by far the most brutal position.
     
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  47. MG2

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  48. Bert Handsome

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    CC to Jed: ok now go get a few Stearns like post hype prospect AAAA players
     
  49. MG2

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    He was pretty good for them the first time around

     
  50. VASooner

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