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  1. Anison

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    Fair enough.
     
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  2. bwi2

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    you can’t just say “they’d break the law” when a club suspended an arrested player who hadn’t been charged in literally the only example you have cited

    they could have, they didn’t, you’re fine with it
     
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  3. Jorts

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    You left out the "proof," conveniently, again
     
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  4. Jorts

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    In a world where laws didn't exist, Arsenal could have done what a few of you hoped for... but then Partey couldn't be accused in that same world. Quite the conundrum
     
  5. bwi2

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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/34...a-football-club-do-when-a-player-is-arrested/

    Years of contract law and FA rules, huh?
     
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  6. SugarShaun

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    Not every club can have the integrity of the Manchester clubs suspending their accused rapists
     
  7. Jorts

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  8. bwi2

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    I read the article. Did you? The entirety of the article is describing the choices that Arsenal had. It’s absolute gibberish to say they had no choice but to do nothing. No one is saying that Arsenal was required to suspend him. No one even says they should have immediately terminated his contract. But “do nothing” is absolutely not the only option they had - as proven by other clubs which did suspend under the same legal circumstances.
     
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  9. Andy Reocho

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    Good god Jorts

    Just step back and realize/acknowledge Arsenal could, and should, have done more.
     
  10. Jorts

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    There is no mention of any action being taken by clubs prior to charges filed (which was today for Partey), apart from Greenwood... which we've already covered, being due to the Audio & Video proof being leaked (the article does not specify the leak).
     
  11. Gunners

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    I’m not trying to be judge/arbitrator/whatever but move the fuck on

    This is a very cordial thread 99% of the time
     
  12. Jorts

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    I'm down - Teams in Spain next week & Asian Tour starts 2 weeks from tomorrow - 1st match on the 23rd
     
  13. elfrid

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    best i can do is advancing on personal terms with madueke

    [​IMG]

     
  14. NineteenNine

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  15. AUShyGuy

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    I’m worried this complicates an Ethan extension
     
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  16. Jorts

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    They see him as an 8/10… it could also be conversations as insurance, if Ethan doesn’t sign & we’re forced to sell.
     
  17. elfrid

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    could see that, but hopefully it’s just because they see ethan as the øde backup. maybe ethan extends and gets sent out on loan as well?

    in theory, we have saka, nelli, ethan, leo (?) and jesus that can play rw, though

    if we have the budget to bring in madueke along with a cf, rodrygo, and maybe eze, then i’d feel better about the madueke links (even if we do pay a premium which would be annoying, but hey, at least we brought in our main targets in this scenario), but they do have me a bit nervous that either someone unexpected is potentially out the door or we’re near panic signing territory after not getting a main target (rodrygo, etc)
     
  18. elfrid

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    ornstein getting in on the action, and says we’ve now agreed on personal terms

     
  19. The Walrus

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    Pretty sad state of things when wasting likely £50m on more Chelsea trash isn’t even the thing I’m most upset with the club for.

    Lol Jesus Christ
     
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  20. elfrid

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    hopefully just a negotiating ploy by his agent, but what a week this has been lol

     
  21. AUShyGuy

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    What I don’t get for any player interested with Chelsea, who would join for game time promises?
     
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  22. stexraider

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    I just wonder if Ethan will not find time because of his size… I’ve mentioned this before but I think it’s pretty clear that given a tall guy and a short guy with similar skills… they want the tall dude
     
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  23. AUShyGuy

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    Hmmm, ultimately whomever we sign in attack at any spot, I’ve no clue how they’ll be. Just score/create goals, don’t care how

     
  24. Jorts

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    I think you nailed it. The club ultimately wants him, but I think there are limits to him physically - I think he presents as a player that could be good to really good in the Premier league, not great because of this.

    Talented & capable when on the pitch… he broke down last season & I never really feel he was overused. Not necessarily someone I’d pay over the odds on, with so much more development needed.
     
  25. The Walrus

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    He was literally a child last season. Most 17 yr olds aren't ready to play 2-3k minutes in the Premier League. He needs to get stronger and develop his body, as he will naturally do as he gets older.

    Ideally he re-signs and gets a good loan somewhere where he can get the minutes he needs. But he's the current cover for Odegaard, and I think if you bring in someone like Eze, Ethan (rightfully) is probably wondering how he fits in the short term at Arsenal.
     
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  26. clemsonvianj

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    would agree 100% with Ethan's people that Madueke + Eze doesn't really make sense for his future (especially since he hasn't been played or shown the physicality needed for the 9, which is reportedly where Arteta has hinted his future may be)
     
  27. hood b. goode

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    Let Nwaneri walk & we riot. Madueke is fine but two England-caliber right wingers feels redundant
     
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  28. The Walrus

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    Madueke’s a very talented player, if not a bit of a dickhead. It’s the price tag and continued assembly line of Chelsea rejects that bothers me.

    And if he’s our big winger outlay, I’m sorry that just isn’t good enough.
     
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  29. AUShyGuy

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    Think I agree with the point made that buying from Chelsea probably becomes more common as they continue their asinine recruiting strategy

    trick is obviously not over paying
     
  30. hood b. goode

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    Raiding the Chelsea locker room every offseason - a tradition unlike any other
     
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  31. hood b. goode

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    Eze too busy to text his agent back


     
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  32. AUShyGuy

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    Scott’s all in

    I see that this is an unpopular position but after spending a bit more time thinking about it I can't help but think the general consensus is wrong. There is just a lot of bad vibes from the CHELSEA part of this because he stacks up well to players that fans would be thrilled to be linked with.

    Scott Willis (@scott.cannonstats.com) 2025-07-05T18:23:45.708Z
     
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  33. elfrid

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    approaching the madueke potential transfer with the mindset this is to bring him in addition to our main targets (rodrygo, eze, etc)

    if that’s the case, somebody’s def getting sold, though, imo

    leo - love you, but think it’s time

    nelli - rather not, but would fetch the highest fee. he may not be happy playing second fiddle to someone he’s competing against for a spot in a wc year as well imo

    jesus - not sure there’s a market coming off injury, though

    ethan - fanbase might riot
     
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  34. AUShyGuy

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    Don’t think this is the case or being reported but if Ethan were to be a starting 11 or leaving (or whatever the I’m not signing thing is) then cash out.
     
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  35. Jorts

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    I've read that that he doesn't want to go on loan & wants playing time assurances... They might be reasonable, but if not and/or he doesn't sign, cash in 100%
     
  36. zeberdee

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    losing Nwaneri would be awful. better have a sell-on clause.
     
  37. bwi2

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    I think a sale would probably be regretted, but we only get so many shots with this core and I’d much prefer they go for it than hold off on improving a club to satisfy an 18 year old
     
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  38. Jorts

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    Where's everyone at with the striker?

    I think I've decided I just want us to stop fucking about, grab Watkins, and spend across the attack. Watkins isn't sexy, but will bang
     
  39. bwi2

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    Im much less concerned about who’s in the middle if that guy is in between Rodrygo and Saka. Still have reservations about Gyokeres at any fathomable price.
     
  40. Jorts

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    Part of my reasoning is that I think Rodrygo causes to "settle" for Watkins
     
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  41. Jorts

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    I still maintain Martinelli can do a job at CF
     
  42. AUShyGuy

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    I think who ever we buy is Kais backup, if it’s Watkins with big wing money then ok
     
  43. Gunners

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    I didn’t sleep much and on 1 this weekend but starting to wonder if they’re trying to get creative with the position like PSG did with Dembele. Going after Eze and Madueke doesn’t make a ton of sense.

    Or we’re just throwing a bunch of shit at the wall waiting for something to stick.
     
  44. pratyk

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    He’s finally here!!
     
  45. AUShyGuy

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    Wait who?
     
  46. elfrid

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  47. elfrid

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    zubi
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    inshallah
     
  48. Jorts

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    Seems like it started trending that direction about a week ago. he seems like he has a chip on his shoulder, and I like it
     
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  49. AUShyGuy

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    Pretty much this

    Looks like Gyokeres is the striker pick then. I have some doubts, that transition from Portugal to England isn't always easy, but he's got plenty of experience, and will undoubtedly score goals. He gave Saliba and Gabriel a test when we played Sporting too. Just glad we've made a decision.

    arseblog (@arseblog.com) 2025-07-06T11:49:39.308Z
     
  50. WillySaliba

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    Grain of salt and all but given the market and options think that’s decent.

     
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