Actor from Empire attacked in Chicago, fully exonerated after witch hunt.

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  1. CloudBerry

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    https://amp-tmz-com.cdn.ampproject....-attacked-hospitalized-homophobic-hate-crime/

    Maybe this happened like he said, but does this story seem fishy to anyone else? Either some dudes were so obsessed with this guy that they waited for him to appear in Chicago and ambushed him outside a Subway at 2am or random Maga dudes recognized a gay black man from his work on TV and happened to have a noose and bleach handy to attack him.
     
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  2. steamengine

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    Probably good people on both sides of the incident
     
  3. Truman

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    They shoot scenes of Empire at my gym.

    /csb
     
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  4. TC

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    I too questioned the story’s veracity as reported fwiw
     
  5. SC

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    The link you posted shows someone sent him a letter last week that said "you will die black fag" and said MAGA on the outside of the envelope, so not exactly a huge leap to say someone was obsessed with him and didn't like that he was a gay black man.
     
  6. CloudBerry

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    Yeah, I know. Its just another of many parts of the story that seem odd. Theres like a million people maga dudes hate and they single out a fairly obscure tv actor to send a death threat to and then are aware that he just appeared in Chicago from NY and track him down to rough him up a little with some solid racist signifiers? Its all a bit odd. Like I said, maybe his account will be confirmed but I'm not gonna be surprised at all if it turns out to be a hoax.
     
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  7. JeremyLambsFace

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    Ah yes it’s very important we scrutinize the credibility of this victim as per usual SOP
     
  8. afb

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    yikes
     
  9. AptosDuck

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    Was he dressed provocatively?
     
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  10. Frank Martin

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    It's one of those ones sadly you hope is real because it's going to be awful if it isn't.
     
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    not one thing in reports made me think it was made up
     
  12. CloudBerry

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    Fair enough. I found it strange that people focused on this guy enough to want to hurt him specifically and then were able to track him down the first day he appeared in Chicago and then didn't apparently hurt him very badly OR random guys saw him, recognized him from TV and knew who he was and had a noose and caustic liquid on hand. I don't know any Trump supporters smart or motivated enough for the first scenario and the second seems implausible. To each his own.
     
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  13. Frank Martin

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    Are you trying to say nothing about the story is suspicious?
     
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    oh it's def strange af. probably crazy trumptards. could possibly be crazy antitrumptards

    but not a hoax
     
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  15. Fecta23

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    Im thinking his story is bullshit.
     
  16. bhrangerfan0809

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    Seems odd.

    White guys walking around in freezing weather carrying bleach, nooses and wearing ski masks, randomly targeting black gay men in Chicago?

    Not going to disbelieve him but I won’t be shocked to find out later this was something else.
     
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  18. AIP

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    What is maga?
     
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  19. JeremyLambsFace

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    I mean there was enough premeditation and threats prior to the attack that Fox allegedly added security to the set where Empire shoots and offered him off-set security detail.

    But yes, I agree, the real issue here is to vehemently protect the honor of alleged anonymous attackers before a full story comes out from the police.
     
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  20. Mix

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    The more that comes out the more this makes sense. White powder was sent to him on set before and he posted he was heading back to Chicago on social media so he made it pretty easy to wait for him. Hopefully some cameras spotted these guys.
     
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  21. Frank Martin

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    :facepalm:

    You’re chiding a poster for wanting all the facts of a situation to come out.

    This is the problem at the moment. People want to run with this as 100% factual then if it does come out to not be true you’ll already have built up frustration that it did happen.
     
  22. JeremyLambsFace

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    Stop being a fucking idiot.
     
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    You serious?
     
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  24. Frank Martin

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    Totally man. Being objective is idiotic.

    The logical person would jump to conclusions.

    What a time to be alive.
     
  25. JeremyLambsFace

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    Please stop being a shit-eating moron.
     
  26. Frank Martin

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    Listen to yourself. You’re calling someone a moron for arguing we should base an argument on facts and not assumption.

    It’s a sad state of affairs when objectivity is considered a bad thing.
     
  27. CloudBerry

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    jokes on you guys. i posted my incredulity to sow dissension within the UofSC fan base. suck it coots!
     
  28. JeremyLambsFace

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    There are no conflicting accounts. There is only the account of the victim. The elements of this account that include the threats before the attack are corroborated by people at his place of employment. They were deemed credible enough to change their security procedures. We obviously don’t have the facts yet and the picture of the situation could still change, but to jump to the conclusion that it clearly didn’t happen speaks not to objectivity but to a clear and inherent bias not to believe the victim or to side with the alleged attackers.
     
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  29. JeremyLambsFace

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    Joke is on you we are already scheduled to fight in a Publix parking lot
     
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  30. Frank Martin

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    When did the OP or myself jump to this conclusion?

    You’re just making something up to confirm your own bias.
     
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  31. JeremyLambsFace

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    My post was responding to several posts in the thread where people jumped to that conclusion.
     
  32. Frank Martin

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    Several posts? The only one was Fecta.
     
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  33. am16401

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    I don't see what about this is so hard to believe for some considering we live in a country where a teenage girl was stalked, had her parents violently killed in front of her, kidnapped and held captive for months all because she had the misfortune of walking past the car of a psychopath.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
  35. Beeds07

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    This is such a terrible post and you should feel bad.
     
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  36. C A N E

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    Dude had a noose put around his neck and kept it on until he got to his apartment?
     
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    I was, googled it

    I didn’t know it was an acronym
     
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  38. IvanTheTerrible

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    Where did you hear this?
     
  39. SC

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    Chicago police confirmed that a letter containing an anti-gay epithet and white powder were mailed to the Douglas Park neighborhood Cinespace Chicago Film Studios, where “Empire” is filmed, on Jan. 22. The letter, addressed to one of the show’s actors, triggered a hazardous materials call for fire officials, who determined the powder wasn't dangerous. The FBI has since taken over the probe into the letter — as it was sent through the U.S. mail service — while Chicago police continue to look into the attack, authorities said.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-ent-empire-actor-attacked-20190129-story.html
     
  40. skiedfrillet

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  41. IvanTheTerrible

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    Holy fuck.
     
  42. NilesIrish

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    This dude has everything to lose and nothing to gain from it. Not sure why anyone would think he'd fabricate this.
     
  43. CloudBerry

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    Sorry, I don't. Pretty much every time a story comes out with odd details and no verification, I'm suspicious. The UVa rape case, Duke lacrosse, any time a white dude's wife mysteriously disappears, when a mom claims a baby gets abducted by random black guys. The combination of unusual or implausible details and convenient political gratification always makes me a little doubtful. I made the original post because I thought it was TMB discussion-worthy either way and wondered what people thought.
     
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  44. IvanTheTerrible

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    It's kinda what the MAGA crowd does nowadays tbh. Think back to the Florida dude that mailed fake pipe bombs. That entire group said it was probably planned by Soros, HRC & Obama to swing the midterm elections in favor of the Dems. I could think of countless examples of ppl who have felt emboldened by this administration. Yet, calling them out on this is met with strong resistance.
     
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  45. IvanTheTerrible

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    A police report has been filed that this isn't the first attack on this actor. Yet, you are still willing to die on the hill of "I'm not going to assume anything just yet". Cool bro.
     
  46. TC

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    Fwiw I was skeptical when I didn't know about the package that got mailed to him before. Having that happen randomly seems pretty crazy but it sounds like some people were fucking with him
     
  47. bertwing

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  48. Frank Martin

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    Yeah I’m going to let the FBI do their job to find out what happened.

    It’s sad we’ve reached the point where that is considered a hot take.
     
  49. CloudBerry

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    To be fair: What wealthy, gay black man among us has not been in a foodie metropolis and braved arctic temperatures at 2 am for a Cold Cut Combo?
     
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  50. IvanTheTerrible

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    It's not a hot take. But if you are still going "This 100% a hoax". You can't really blame ppl for looking at you with somewhat a skeptical eye.

    Again, hate crimes have been on an upswing in the past two years and a certain group of ppl tend to always jump on the "This is a hoax to make DJT or white males look bad" train.
     
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