Based on what I've seen, I think odds just as high or higher aew is filled with anti vaxers. Although are they independent contractors too?
Highest rated segment of the show last night was the in-ring promo with The Elite. Scored nearly 1.5 million views.
Last year on this week NXT didn't air due to a hockey game on USA Network. Running unopposed, AEW did 1,071,000 total viewers and a 0.37 demo. It was considered a big win. This year, they did 1.31 million and 0.53 demo. That's an excellent gain.
The segment that also included two of their three debuting acts, including Bryan. Was interested to see the bump they got from Bryan and Punk. Think those two bring in a different audience. So far it's been a healthy one. Good to see
btw, Bryan's new theme is a banger I've heard AEW described as "Redneck Anime" and that's....pretty apt.
It’s a cheap way to get over as a heel since his reaction at the PPV and at Dynamite was baby face. People love Tony and it got some heat. Rampaged peaked at 1.6m for Punks debut. Last week it did 600k. AEW can get people to tune in. It’s not keeping them. This goes back from its debut as well. Bryan and Punk will bring viewers and I think AEW Dynamite should see some of those gains stick. Will be interesting to see at what level a few weeks from now.
You shouldn’t have to watch a YouTube channel to enjoy or understand what’s happening on main TV. For years I’ve been in this thread pissed that the best promos and best character development for WWE is on .com and if they just put the .com stuff on TV it would help so much. This is no different.
I get what you are saying but its a different world, you have to use those different media sources because fans will find them anyway so why not use them to your advantage
I’ve got no problem with them using it. They are in this to make money over anything else at the end of the day. I grow frustrated when they could use those clips on the TV show to make the storyline better or character development better and they largely don’t.
This is insanely ignorant of the history of TV ratings. First off, how you can say this when Dynamite was averaging 700k last year and now is pulling in a million a week is hilariously myopic. Long answer: TV shows have one of two life cycles: they either start small and slowly grow or they start unusually big, settle to a norm, and either wither and die or slowly grow from there. Most Network TV (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX) shows follow the latter trend, starting with a big premiere and settling to a norm for a year or two. Whether they are cancelled or not depends on if they grow their audience. Meanwhile cable or premium shows (TNT or HBO for examples) usually start small, not really moving the numbers for a year, before slowly building their audience through word of mouth, ala Breaking Bad on AMC. Wrestling is different in that there is no off season for word of mouth to build to a big season premiere with a lot of new fans all joining at once, but the basic formulas still apply. Rampage has followed the cable model but for the Punk episode that throws the trend off a bit: The show's first week viewership was about 700k, its second was the most "special event" episode they're likely ever to have, and it doubled the rating. After that, it has settled back down to its week one number. This is consistent with a cable show starting with a "floor" number, keeping it for a while, and slowly adding that number over time. Without a big season premiere, it might behoove TK to have a big special-edition episode of Rampage like once a year in the fall, to try and attract Dynamite watchers who don't watch on Fridays, etc. All that said, Rampage is a show that airs late on Friday night. The fact that it is grabbing even 500k a week is excellent. The fact that it was able to get 1.5 million people to tune in to watch a promo is incredible. The fact that a lot of those viewers aren't watching (live) every Friday at 10pm is normal.
Addendum: It's like in 1999 saying "WWF is in trouble because Sunday Night Heat peaked with six million viewers for the Halftime Heat Superbowl match where Foley won his second title...and the next week they were back down to a million a week!" No shit they peaked and dropped. They offered a once on a lifetime thing for one week only. The fact that a late night Friday B-show is doing the ratings the primetime Wednesday night A-show was doing a year or so back, while the A-show has added 500k or so to its own numbers is incredible. There's a reason no one in the industry and no one who talks TV ratings is sounding the alarm about Rampage. It's because the numbers are great. There's a reason literally no one who knows what they're talking about is sounding the alarm about "AEW having trouble retaining its audience." It's just a hilariously wrong take.
You want to highlight and sunshine pump a “special” ep of Dynamite and when I simply point out that it’s inflated because it’s a special and give them credit for being able to truly get amazing numbers for those special one off shows it’s somehow spun into me saying AEW is in trouble. Fuck outta here with that spin job.
Are you saying Dynamite this week was a special episode? It wasn't. Maybe you're saying it was special because it was Bryan's first appearance, but that's hardly comparable to the promotion they gave the Punk episode of Rampage. This week's Dynamite was presented as a PPV fallout show. That's the only thing special about it. Bryan being on was promoted no more heavily than any other aspect of the show. Dynamite has done over a million viewers for seven of the past nine weeks. Were those all "special" episodes? I think people who scream everytime Dynamite's rating is lower than the week before are the same ones silent when it's higher the next week, and they fail to zoom out and look at the trend. It's like watching the stock market day by day. It goes up and down but zoom out and look at the trend: is it going up or down? Dynamite is going up. That's a fact. Saying "they have trouble retaining their audience:" Fuck outta here with THAT spin job.
I don’t believe I’m doing that. But the minute anyone makes a posts that’s slightly negative or a reality check to the kool aid party in this thread it’s met with a multiple poster dunk a thon.
There's plenty to criticize AEW for. They're not perfect and they're clearly a "new" promotion with all the little mistakes. I don't rush to white knight for them when someone posts a legit criticism. I just prefer my reality checks to be based in reality. Saying AEW is having trouble retaining its audience isn't reality.
if you don’t believe the an episode of TV that’s featuring Bryan and Cole coming off a major is special I don’t know what to tell you. Is it technically a “Bash at the Beach” or “Legends night” no. But it’s not just EP 54 of dynamite. I’m not knocking the numbers. I’m more curious where the numbers go once the buzz of a big show cools down. That’s not to say we’re looking at the death of AEW, I even said in that post I believe you could see them retain some of that bump.
Spears is what Cody called him when he joined, a good hand. He's a solid jobber to the stars and good worker.
Yes, saving for tomorrow as that only seems appropriate. Seeing buzz it is in the Benoit/Owen tier which would be amazing.
PPV buy news: All Out did "at least" 200k buys, which is the most for a non-WWF/E PPV since Halloween Havoc 1999. Final numbers are still a few weeks away. For some comparisons: Money in the Bank 2011 (Punk vs Cena in Chicago) did 195,000 buys AEW's previous PPV, Revolution 2021 did about 150k buys. Before that, Double or Nothing 2021 did about 125k buys It's hard to compare to WWE since they run 12 shows a year with four of them being super shows that get more promotion, booking payoffs, etc. AEW meanwhile only runs four shows, so while no single AEW PPV can be called their WrestleMania, it's more like they run four SummerSlam level shows a year. Though if I had to break it down, I would argue they run two PPV "A Shows" (Double or Nothing and All Out) and two PPV "B Shows" (Revolution and Full Gear), but again it's not the easiest comparison to make with WWF/E. In terms of buyrates, if you take away WWE's big four shows, their average PPV buy was between 100k-200k between 2004-2014, though the last non-Big Four PPV to hit 200k buys in North America was Backlash 2004. There were several PPVs, especially between 2011-2014 that had under 100k buys, and a few SummerSlam and Survivor Series events failed to hit the 200k mark as well. Mania and the Rumble never failed to reach that mark. Those are the biggest shows every year for WWE. Even when you include the Big Four, the average PPV buyrate for all WWE PPVs was under 200k between 2006-2013 (the last full year of PPVs before the Network launched).
Wow that's a lot of good data, imagine what that would look like if Shawn Spears had been booked at the top of the card