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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by bigpig, Aug 21, 2016.
He signed an extension or a new deal at some point
Claudio is fantastic in ring but listening to that I can't believe people actually thought he deserved to be WWE champ.
Should probably search Pornhub because there is a 100% chance that name is already being used.
I don't know why WWE never really pushed her. Yes her promo's were mid (so are Sasha's) but in ring she can go. Fan's always seemed to liked her and she was not Becky over but over none the less. I think her branching off could really pay off for her.
when you really think about there’s like less than 10-15 guys and girls in all of wrestling that can really give great promos. On the womens side it’s especially bleak.
I think that estimate may be a bit low. You don't need to have weekly pipe bombs, just have confidence in delivery and make sense. But I will say a lot of times people think wrestlers cut amazing promos based largely because they shared a non kayfabe bit of info or cursed.
I think if were talking elite talkers... yeah you probably only have a dozen or so...
Honestly, I think Zelina Vega has the best promo skills on the women’s side. On the men’s, it’s easily the Miz for me
I think Zelina has been criminally underutilized ever since Andrade was brought up from NXT.
There's been several world Champs that were not great on the mic. Hell Lesnar almost always had some to speak for him
Lesnar may not be great on the mic but he is a once in a generation talent. Claudio is really good and I like him a lot but he is not in the same stratosphere that Brock is in.
We just need more and better managers. Best wrestling pure character I've seen in the last 7 years was Dario Cueto on Lucha Underground. Granted he was an actual actor but goddamn what a perfect heel
What a comp... If you don't see the presentation difference. One is a monster the other looks like a generic create a wrestler
Agreed. Just saying we need more mouthpieces.
I think this is a great point. Something WWF did in the 80's that helped a ton of muscle dudes with character but zero talking skills.
thats why when people shit on don calis im like what? He’s awesome at what he does. Stokely is also a great manager. Get me back to the days of great heel managers and valets
You see how Uncles Jessie said the same thing without being a condescending ass. Work on it
I don't shit on Callis as a manager, I don't like him because he is a in real life POS.
I don't like the pairing with Kenny... He doesn't need Don. He also doesn't need the dorks who follow him with water and towels. If you want to bring some NJPW stuff over don't do it in a corny eye roll way. Present it in a serious fashion.
Two talents AEW has presented awful are Hangman and Kenny. I think they may be fixing both with this current storyline, more so Hangman than Kenny.
you may want to stop watching wrestling, all sports for that matter then
I disagree I think calis and Kenny have been great. Kenny the belt collector was incredible and his storyline with hangman where hangman won the title was a top 5 storyline of the last 5 years. I think him being hurt for so long and hangman’s title run after is clouding your judgement a bit. I do agree kenny is good enough to get away from calis even though I think their work together was very good.
Like an ice-cream shop... different flavors for us all. We don't consume wrestling in the same way. I'm always looked at as the wwe guy (rightfully so) itt and so we just watch product differently.
I feel like at this point in AEW's run, the last legit draw for people like me who don't tune in live weekly to consume AEW product is Kenny. Mox has been forced fed to us to the point I want him to take that vacation. Bryan they never even attempted to take advantage of his draw, instead they used him to prove he was equal to a world champion they booked as a "b" act. Looks like he
off to NJPW for a bit. MJF has cooled significantly and Punk is gone. Kenny is all that's left and I think that was proven with this weeks ratings. Dynamite normally loses audience from start to finish. This week people (like me) tuned in to watch him for a match with very little build.
The belt collector stuff was cool. I think it could've been better and some of that isn't on Kenny or AEW. On paper that was a great idea but politics of wrestling probably ultimately capped what could've been. I don't mind Calis with Kenny but you got to get those other dudes including the Bucks away from him, I just prefer he goes on a solo run and be that bad ass wrestler he was in NJPW. I don't think we have seen that Kenny and i'm waiting
who are the wrestlers that took the spots Rusev turned down?
I remember Ethan Page got the spot losing to Ricky Starks in whatever tournament that was, and now Ethan isn't doing jack shit
Who was the person who lost at the end of the battle royal to Hangman?
Those could've been real "I told you so" moments for Tony Khan if the people he picked instead jumped up the card in a hurry but I don't think that's been the case. Def not in Ethan Page's case.
The belief is Rush took the battle Royal spot.
That random guy with the beard in the QTV segments is Tony Schiavone’s son, Matt
MJF I believe
EDIT: Rush would be the more recent battle royal runner up.
well then that's a big 0 for 2 in terms of making him regret not taking that spot
The truth is somewhere in between I'm sure. Miro probably turned down the battle royal stuff because after that they had nothing for him worth a shit. So nah I wont just return to put over Hangman... let me know when you got something long term. But you know... hOW CoUlD He nOT Do The HonOrS fOR a FoRMER cHamP!
Didn’t they have him get beat up in angle a few years ago? I remember them talking about him training to be a wrestler even though he’s like 35 years old.
More proof Kenny needs to get away from the Young Bucks and be on his own. I’ve always liked Kenny but his AEW run has been a letdown to me other than the Hangman arch. He seems refreshed and healthy now so looking forward to more with him. I wouldn’t even mind if this turned in to the Bucks turning on him and Hangman being the one that saves him. Don’t mind if he is involved with the Bucks, just don’t want him aligned with them if that makes sense.
Sorry for the long post. It’s 80 degrees here and I’ve been doing yard work and consumed seventy eleven beers in between.
The reason there aren’t good managers anymore is because the best ones were promoters from the territory days or guys that traveled and made their money on getting randoms over totally cold
Women managers are also kind of dead now that the social unacceptable element of men hitting women reached wrestling sometime in the mid/late 00s.
This isn’t related to anything in particular, maybe the ensnared stuff, but does AEW have any monster heels? It seems like every heel victory is some screwy finish where interference happens. It’s really hard to get behind matches when you know the heel should win yet still cheats. It’s getting old.
Hes very evil
I hope that guy gets beat up. I’m hope everybody involved in it gets beat up. I hate all of them. Poor Hobbs.
Would love to her see her get her shine just because she was super good in the community here after the Pulse shooting
Also why it's hard to pull off the "She's a nice woman but she's stuck with an abusive asshole" dynamic like with Liz and Savage, Kimberly and DDP, Sable and Marc Mero etc
Remember that time WWE tried to turn it around with Bennett and Kanellis and it was the cringiest shit you’ve ever seen?
They did it back in the Attitude Era with PMS (Pretty Mean Sisters) and Meat and it was a total dud
Man, I forgot about Meat. Didn’t forget about PMS though.
The shift was definitely noticeable around 10 years ago when Stephanie was arguably the best heel in the business until everyone but WWE realized how much it sucked that she was never going to have any repercussions for her words/actions, which pretty much tanked every major character she ever interacted with until they brought Rousey in they had that mixed tag with her and Angle.
I am a fan of Rhea but that's a problem with her being so physical with the men these days
I think as long as she is a heel she can get away with it, but as a face she needs to stay away from interacting with the men.
Anyone is a face against Charlotte