AEW / WWE thread - real fighting over fake fighting

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  1. MG2

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    If all the WWE PLEs weren't on Peacock, I might order 2 of them a year between WM and Summer Slam. Since they're on Peacock, it's fine and I'll watch them if they have enough interesting stories.

    AEW's PPVs are generally great, but I'm not buying one every month. Fuck that.
     
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  2. oknole

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    RR and WM are the only two that are must see for me every year
     
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  3. GrizzliesDrew

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    If they're going to charge people for PPVs, then they need to only charge for like 2-3 of the big ones and put the rest just on Max like normal.
     
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  4. Hank Scorpio

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    I never watched PPVs before the WWE Network. My parents wouldn't pay for it during the Attitude Era, kinda tuned out during most of the Ruthless Aggression Era, and once I had my own money to spend, I simply didn't care enough during the PG Era.

    It's the same reason I'll never spend $50 on an AEW ppv. My level of caring doesn't meet the cost for entry.
     
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  5. harvey birdman

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    Charging extra for PPVs on a streaming service fans already have to pay for at a time WWE doesn’t would be dumb.
     
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  6. harvey birdman

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    If the PLEs weren’t on Peacock, I would’ve never gotten back into wrestling.
     
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  7. GrizzliesDrew

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    This.
     
  8. Hank Scorpio

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    Was a combo of CM Punk pipe bomb and the launch of the WWE Network for me. Now my son is obsessed and even my daughter is getting into it. So I don't think we'll be dropping our Peacock subscription any time soon.
     
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  9. Prospector

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    monthly ppv fucks booking up imo resulting in rushed story lines
     
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  10. oknole

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    Exactly. A quarterly PPV gives a minimum of 3 months for a story with an option of almost a year if you make it a 3 PPV match feud
     
  11. zeberdee

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    I actually think it could help AEW with storylines, especially if it's streaming and they're not worried about buys.

    AEW loves to put on IWC dream matches and cards that are just great wrestling even if there isn't much storyline behind it. let them do that 3-4 times a year outside of the storylines. almost like a pause for a special event before going back to your regularly scheduled programming.
     
  12. jrmy

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    DRAW
     
  13. Prospector

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  14. harvey birdman

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    What is the AEW reset event in the vein of Wrestlemania?
     
  15. harvey birdman

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    I call cap on the Rock.
     
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  17. MG2

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    I don't really think it matters either way unless the addition of more PPVs caused a tangible change in the way the company is booked and run.

    The guy running the show wants to book fantasy matches and let his guys do whatever they want outside of that. Which is the reason why the PPV matches are really fun but generally have no build or story coming into or out of them. And I'm not sure how adding 6-8 more big events is going to change that if nothing else has over the last 5 years.
     
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  18. Hank Scorpio

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    Would be cool, but they need to get the belt off Roman beforehand if that's the plan imo
     
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  19. MG2

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    Could not agree more, but I don't have a ton of faith they'd actually do this and allow Roman to get pinned before a match of that magnitude.
     
  20. Shawn Hunter

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    So what AEW already largely does?
     
  21. Shawn Hunter

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    Sounds like WWE’s marketing department has been gutted. TK needs to swoop in and save the day for some of these people.
     
  22. Nostradumass

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    There really isn't one, but who knows what will happen if they expand to monthly PPVs. It used to be, with 4 PPVs, you didn't have one WM style show, you had four, so there was no big reset. Maybe if they go monthly, they'll let All In become their big blowout.

    But even then, WrestleMania itself hasn't felt like a season finale in a long time.


    Lots of people have takes regarding the way AEW does its storytelling. My take is TK needs to learn how to book backwards. Back in the day, Vince, Pat Patterson, and whoever else was in his inner circle at the time, would pick out one or two big matches for WrestleMania or SummerSlam, and then work backwards from there, not just planning matches, but storyline beats. That all sort of when away when Russo started crash-TV booking things, but that's the approach I would have TK take. What do you want the main-event of Full Gear to be? Swerve vs MJF? Set that and then back up six weeks or whatever it is and lay out the major storybeats that need to happen to get you there.

    I think he cares too much about match-making and leaves the in between storytelling to be worked out on the fly.
     
  23. ZeroPointZero

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    unlike the ticket sales for Dynamite and Collision which are cratering at the moment, the PPV ticket sales are still mostly okay, and I think part of the reason for that is there's a segment of the AEW fanbase that will fly in for each of those shows. But asking those people to do it 12 times a year instead of 5 or 6 is a lot. And if the attendance starts to crater at PPV events too then the atmosphere at those takes a major dip as well
     
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  24. Hank Scorpio

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    It's marketing. Those skills tranfer to other industries besides wrestling.
     
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  25. Shawn Hunter

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    Much easier to transition to a company within the same industry though.
     
  26. pearl

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  27. Shawn Hunter

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    Digital Media, Live Events, and Marketing departments all with a bunch of cuts. Time to start making it rain on the backstage hires, TK. Three areas they could massively use help in.
     
  28. UncleJesse

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    Shawn, we get it.
     
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  29. Dr. Mantis Toboggan

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    My dad let me get so many PPVs and my mom would hate it every time
     
  30. ZeroPointZero

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    AEW should try and sign this Rock guy the people just went nuts for
     
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  31. harvey birdman

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    I stand corrected
     
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  32. ZeroPointZero

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    Rock working blue on network TV. Good thing the guy working the delay button didn’t get laid off today
     
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  33. harvey birdman

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    Writers strike has been the best thing to happen to WWE
     
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  34. harvey birdman

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  35. sc_chant

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    You know, it kind of sucks to know I don't live in an area, where a random showing like that could happen at a show I'd be able to go to. Hearing that pop live would be awesome
     
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  36. harvey birdman

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    Most electrifying move may need a power surge to speed up a bit.

     
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  37. Shawn Hunter

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    They're going to do Rock vs. Roman for the title at WrestleMania 40 and Cody still won't finish his story lol
     
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  38. Dr. Mantis Toboggan

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    And if need be I will do the same for my son
     
  39. harvey birdman

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    I’ve seen the AEW fan accounts making this joke. They are still hurt about him leaving.
     
  40. UncleJesse

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    Not going to lie, that Rock return was fucking awesome. It all used to be so much better.
     
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  42. Dan Kendra

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    Damn I got out to dinner and The Rock shows up.
     
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  43. Dan Kendra

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    I can't remember the last non advertised surprise like that.
     
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  44. UncleJesse

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    Nia Jax came back just last week.
     
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  45. ZeroPointZero

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    Shane McMahon at Wrestlemania :yousoricky:
     
  46. UncleJesse

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    Rock probably told Vince if he hired back Nia he would come to Smackdown next week.
     
  47. Dan Kendra

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    Shane's still got it!
     
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  48. harvey birdman

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    Grayson Waller with a Deion callout to get the crowd to hate him
     
  49. harvey birdman

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    I have no idea what the bloodline angle is at this point.
     
  50. Shawn Hunter

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    Meanwhile AEW dark matches on Dynamite this week were...

    QTV vs. Brandon Cutler and Colt Cabana
    Sky Blue vs. MArina Shafir
    Anna Jaye and Taya Valkyrie vs. two local talents