AEW/WWE thread - WrestleMania!

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  1. Bankz

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    Maybe when they split nights people can be less tribal and just support both shows because having something different than main roster is better than being left with Raw or Smackdown only as the alternative.
     
  2. Mr Bulldops

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    I’ve never liked the comparison of AEW or NXT to the Monday or Friday shows. It’s an entirely different audience than mainstream WWE. Wednesday’s are targeted at people like us, Mondays and Fridays are targeted at the LCD “wrestling” fan
     
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  3. Illinihockey

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    you still have around 1.5-1.8 million fans watching on Wednesdays, it just split between two shows. Will be interesting to see the numbers for both shows once NXT moves nights
     
  4. bigpig

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    There's a good chunk that are just "WWE fans" and will never switch to anything else. So those guys will leave for Tuesday nights and not come back. But even if that number is 2/3 of NXT's ratings (which is really unlikely considering that NXT is the smarkiest audience of fans, who love NJPW and such like) that would still mean an additional 200k or so suddenly watching AEW live on Wednesday nights. That alone puts them over a million per week. But I think they'll grab more than just 1/3 of NXT's Wednesday audience.
     
  5. Tender

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    Sorry if this has been answered in here, but the WWE Network is just going to cease to exist?? So, to watch WM, I'll have to subscribe to Peacock, is it going to have a PPV fee or will it be like the WWE Network and PPV's are included?? Is it going to have all the media that the WWE Network currently has??

    I'm dumb, and very confused.
     
  6. bigpig

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    Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's still available separately. Otherwise you can subscribe to Peacock and get it for cheaper (albeit in a watered down version with edited content, no pausing, etc)
     
  7. UncleJesse

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    It’s eventually going to fold all in to Peacock next month. The network will cease to be and your subscription cancelled.
     
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  8. Hank Scorpio

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    I think WM is going to be Peacock only, correct? That's what the advertising has lead me to believe anyway.
     
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  9. DetroitNole

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    Candice LaRae dressed in team rocket gear was not something I knew I would be this into



    Skip ahead to a couple minutes in
     
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  10. Bankz

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    Correct, Fastlane you could still watch on the WWE app. Mania can only be found in Peacock or for those in rural America you can buy on PPV

    Those who pay for the Network you should’ve gotten a email telling you that everything will be moved to peacock and no further charges are coming your way. I got that email last week.
     
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    is this part of Peacock's general sub or does it cost extra, already have it for epl purposes
     
  12. Hank Scorpio

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    I need get so much junk email I miss a lot of stuff like that
     
  13. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Ooooh you didn't know?!

    Road Dogg had a heart attack

     
  14. bigpig

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    Both shows get a bump when you factor in delayed viewing (within a week of air date)

    According to PWTorch, When the 7 day delayed viewing totals are added, AEW Dynamite has averaged 1,039,500 million viewers per episode in 2021 through Mar. 3. -NXT on USA has averaged 772,000 viewers per episode in 2021 through Mar. 3
     
  15. bigpig

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    I was there. First time visiting the west coast. Got to watch a great NXT house show, toured all around San Fran, Hall of Fame, Mania, Raw. It was maybe the most fun I've ever had on a vacation.



    Went to Mania 32 in Dallas the year after and, other than NXT Takeover (Zayn vs Nakamura) and seeing Steve Austin live, the experience was a big let down. Mania 31 will always be special to me.
     
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  16. UncleJesse

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    Andrade said his contract was for 3 million a year on the main roster. That seems completely false to me.
     
  17. DeToxRox

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    Its probably true. Anderson and Gallows have implied they were making well over seven figures with the deals they signed once AEW was formed.
     
  18. DetroitNole

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    I think when aew was formed Vince was scared of guys jumping and was doing record finances there and gave some big contracts. Think he isn't scared of aew anymore so we may see some more cuts for guys like this and probably less panic contracts
     
  19. Shiggityshwo

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    well I just logged on to Peacock and found out the answer to this

    do I dare hop back into my jaunt through the Attitude Era

    :notobamanotbad:
     
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  20. zeberdee

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    I keep seeing memes about them censoring a bunch of stuff fwiw.
     
  21. Illinihockey

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    30% of WWE content is heavily racist
     
  22. Cornfed Buffalo

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  23. bigpig

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    I'm not going say it...
     
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  24. Mr Bulldops

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  25. Illinihockey

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    Statlander back, great for her and the division
     
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  26. DeToxRox

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    Sue is the best
     
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  27. Bankz

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    Been hearing good things about the Stone Cold pod with Orton. They cut a bunch of the pod out and bleeped out all the curse words
     
  28. Cornfed Buffalo

    Cornfed Buffalo No he’s not. He’s just fat and tired
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    I mean it's definitely a cuckold so fire up that gofundme and I'll start sanding down my 2x4.
     
  29. Cornfed Buffalo

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  30. pearl

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  31. Beeds07

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    Jim Cornette hitting that F5 like The Flash
     
  32. DetroitNole

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    Aew down all the way to 700k, nxt down as well, 654k
     
  33. bigpig

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    Can't understate how humongous WrestleMania X-Seven was.

    Lightning in a bottle with stuff that simply can not be replicated anymore.

    1) Buying WCW and winning the Monday Night Wars happened in the literal days before the event, creating a flood of speculation about what the rest of the year's storylines would bring

    2) The jam-packed midcard that made the PPV basically a "greatest hits" of the Attitude Era

    3) The build-up to and execution of the first TLC match which, though it had already been done (essentially) at SummerSlam the year before, it arguably peaked here and has become so watered down as to lose its luster

    4) Stone Cold vs The Rock - a tsunami of circumstances that simply can not be manufactured again, not only because there will probably never be two superstars as big as those two ever again, but also because one of the only reasons the match was so special was because they had been forced apart during Austin's injury; Vince would never have the kind of patience and willpower to keep his two biggest superstars away from each other for a year. The fact that Austin was at his peak and never faded but instead had to step away, while Rock blossomed into a superstar of equal stature is a lightning in a bottle happening. Guys go down with injury and other guys step up, sure. It happens all the time, but Austin was Hogan 2.0 and then had to leave for almost a year. You don't just replace Hogan. It took Vince seven years to find another star that popular when Austin blew up. But not only did Vince get his third Hogan/second Austin, he got it at just the right time for the Rock to peak right as Austin was ready to return, and right as the build-up to Mania was underway.

    Absolute perfect storm.

    And that My Way promo still kicks all of the asses.
     
  34. bigpig

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    Honestly the most underrated success of Mania 17 was the fact that Triple H wasn't able to politick himself into a triple threat main-event. What a let down it would have been to have the two biggest mainstream superstars in pro wrestling...and the perpetually overrated Triple H.
     
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  35. Lando Donovan

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    Just watched X7 this week with my 5 year old. It holds up so well. The irrelevant matches are nice and short, the video packages are top notch, and the crowd was electric. Just had such a big time feel. Even the gimmick battle royal was a lot of fun (but also sad due to how many of those guys have passed). I doubt we'll get to all of them, but we're trying to binge as many Manias as possible before next weekend.
     
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  36. fsugrad99

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  37. Lando Donovan

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    Holy shit:

     
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  38. Illinihockey

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    must not be much bad blood between AEW and WWE. I remember Jericho talking about how Vince was giving him advice when AEW was being brought into existence
     
  39. DetroitNole

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    I posted a few days ago, I think the idea of AEW scared Vince at the start, but after seeing what it is, I dont think they seriously consider it a threat to them anymore
     
  40. Lando Donovan

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    That's a wild thought to me. AEW is absolutely a threat. I think they've exceeded expectations by any barometer. Selling out shows, crushing PPV numbers, will now be over 1 million viewers per week, stealing talent, long term storytelling, wrestling figures selling like hot cakes (good luck finding anybody but Riho), deal in place for those figures with WalMart and Target, national television deal, etc. And they've been around less than 2 years. WWE usually goes in a lull after Mania (even worse than currently), and AEW will have Wednesday nights to themselves. Really big opportunity coming up over the next six months. The only thing they need is to continue growing the brand, getting new eyeballs that don't even know they exist. I think they have an untapped market with the lapsed fan who gave up on WWE, and wrestling as a whole, 20 years ago. Wait until the door with New Japan is completely broken down.
     
  41. Illinihockey

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    I'm excited for the AEW video game
     
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  42. DetroitNole

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    AEW has shown no ability at all to grow their brand beyond the core group of fans that aren't going to watch wwe product anyway. AEW TV numbers are dwindling so im not sure how you're so optimistic a surge is coming. They follow up getting close to a million by putting Shaq on their show with losing viewers every week since and getting some all time low TV viewer ratings. And what wwe talent have they "stolen" that wwe even really wanted beside Moxley? Pretty much everyone else was a wwe release. Maybe FTR, but wwe isn't really hurt by losing them.

    I think Vince recent actions show he isn't scared of AEW anymore. Releasing guys early from their contracts he knows will go there, nxt moving dates, allowing a guy like Jericho to be on a wwe affiliated program. Raw went up against the NCAA tournament this week and still easily over doubled AEW ratings this week. Smackdown had 3x as many viewers as aew this week. AEW barely beating a brand Vince has repeatedly treated as a developmental 3rd brand doesn't scare him.
     
  43. DetroitNole

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    And again that's nothing against the quality of AEW, just their ratings and their audience doesn't scare Vince because they aren't drawing fans from wwe nor any casual fans. It's the people who don't like wwe who are watching. They are much closer to peak ROH or TNA than they are WCW.

    AEW has turned into more of an alternative to wwe than a competitor. Thats not a bad thing. It just doesn't scare Vince imo
     
  44. bigpig

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  46. Mr Bulldops

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    AEW isn’t a threat to main roster WWE, it’s a different target audience. It is a competition for NXT but I’m sure Vince still looks at NXT as a development brand that isn’t worth his time (thank god)
     
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  47. Mr Bulldops

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    No brainer there
     
  48. DeToxRox

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