Alabama Basketball star murdered a woman; Alabama sold their dignity to lose in the Sweet 16

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  1. Daniel Ocean

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    I think he should have been kicked off but suspending him for “X” games would have been something. It would have made it believable that some people would not have been satisfied with anything you guys did. Doing nothing and lying and painting him out to be a victim makes it seem like the athletic department only cares about winning.
     
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  2. Beeds07

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    Not in America
     
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  3. Killy Me Please

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    Wait what. He 100% should be charged for bringing it to them.
     
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  4. Daniel Ocean

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    I’m not going to argue with anyone who has this opinion.
     
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  5. Beeds07

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  6. i am a bammer

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  7. The Milkman

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    Listen guys, you’re arguing with mulletman. Responding is a futile exercise.

    I said my piece a few weeks ago. I’m not happy with my alma mater. I think Miller should have been disciplined for the remainder of the season.

    I still want Bama to succeed in the tournament. But I’m nowhere as invested as I was a couple months ago.
     
  8. The Milkman

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    Mullet also claimed that my mom gave him a cream pie. Tifwiw
     
  9. Corch

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    I assume the jury would be worm brained idiots like jun or the guy that outed cheely
     
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  10. wes tegg

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    That omits the crucial part of the statute: “if, with the intent to promote or assist the commission of the offense…”

    To be a crime, you have to have the culpable mental state + the culpable act. There’s zero doubt that the culpable act is there. If there were any way to prove intent, he’d be awaiting trial.
     
  11. wes tegg

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    Didn’t he also go to Troy?
     
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  12. The Milkman

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    Sí Señor
     
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  13. Tobias

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    neither did 95% of bama fans until 3 months ago
     
  14. killerwvu

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    FIFY
     
  15. Drew Swinney Esq

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    I see a lot of people are upset that the only logical reason someone could ever criticize bama is because their athletic teams have had some success and they are jealous of that. Really is a shame more of you don’t realize you’re incapable of forming opinions outside of that context
     
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  16. Where Eagles Dare

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    South Alabama, Troy, Ole Miss. All Bama adjacent
     
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  18. TC

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  19. Gert B Frobe

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  21. Where Eagles Dare

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    That's their view as the first gun shot flash came from inside the car
     
  22. The Blackfish

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    Yeah the Jeep was the car with the victim in it. The article says there’s reason to believe based on the video that the first shots came from the Jeep but it’s not conclusive.
     
  23. The Blackfish

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    The article paints a very different picture than the al.com article that came out after the initial hearing. Still no footage available for the public so it’s based on whatever the journalist saw and the conclusions he came up with.
     
  24. DDB

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    Man…
     
  25. glimmer

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    the jeep leaving after the initial contact and circling the block repeatedly with lights off before meeting with a 3rd party and pulling in behind miller’s car is just a wildly different scenario than what’s been discussed until now
     
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  26. DDB

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    Did the article say Johnson has avoided subpoena?
     
  27. Yanks711

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    Also kind of painted a picture that the car with the victim in it kind of stalked the other guys
     
  28. glimmer

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    in the article, the defense attorney says that he hasn’t been successfully served a subpoena, which at least implies that an attempt has been made
     
  29. DDB

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    That seems super odd.
     
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  30. glimmer

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    a woman paying the price for the violence of two men tracks actually
     
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  31. Daddy Rabbit

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  32. wes tegg

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  33. Drew Swinney Esq

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    If the other car shot first, it seems like maybe Davis and Miles should have told investigators that, and/or testified to that in the preliminary hearing. How do you give a statement that you saw a gun being passed in the car before you went and got yours, but not that they shot at you first? The defense attorney should be leading with that information if that was the case right?

    This guy has some really conveniently placed “being objective” caveats in his article, weird not to mention lack of testimony from the accused on who shot first. He also harps in the article and on Twitter about this being bare bones straight journalism about a capitol murder case, but starts off with a few paragraphs of accolades for Miller including how he played in the game that night, as if that is relevant at all.
     
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  34. wes tegg

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    And conveniently throws in Johnson’s criminal history and the presence of weed in the car as if it’s in any way relevant.
     
  35. glimmer

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    it’s worth noting that (for some reason) you’re just straight up lying about what was written to make it easier to disregard.

    This is how far you have to read into the article to find a mention of Brandon Miller’s performance, and it’s not even two full sentences. So good job arguing against an article that doesn’t exist.
     
  36. dblplay1212

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    You left out this part

    It is at this point that Davis, who had walked off in another direction, can be seen running up behind the Jeep and up to the driver's side window.

    At 1:45 a.m., the first shot was fired.

    I think it's hard for Davis to claim self defense when he ran up to the Jeep armed with a gun.
     
  37. glimmer

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    arguing against a made up article, that’s the alex jones classic!
     
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  38. GrizzliesDrew

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    Guys, Brandon Miller was a hero that night.
     
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  39. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Yeah, so he spends some fluff time setting up his article talking about sticking to facts of the case. Then talks about basketball for 3 paragraphs once the article starts. Exactly what I said.

    If you’re being objective, you don’t have to repeatedly say how objective you’re being, you just be objective.
     
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  40. RJF-GUMP

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    Johnson’s criminal history and the weed in the car are both going to be the subject of extensive motion practice on a Motion in Limine and there’s a 50/50 chance both are coming in at trial right? Johnson’s convictions are in the last 10 years, violent, and felonies, correct? He’s not a party to the case but still think that stuff could come in. He’ll end up getting charges brought against him before this is all over.
     
  41. The Blackfish

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    I don’t think the article paints that picture either but you’re more than entitled to that opinion.
     
  42. Where Eagles Dare

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    Hmmmmm..... many ppl are saying Tegg is Ryan Phillips. Evidence is damning
     
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  43. Where Eagles Dare

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    I'm nearly positive their story had been they returned fire in self defense from the start
     
  44. glimmer

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    spin it!! that’s a solid goalpost shift. i like that you quickly went from “the first 3 paragraphs are accolades of miller” to “three paragraphs of ‘fluff’ before 3 paragraphs of basketball” when it’s still only 3 complete sentences about basketball (in a case full of basketball players, go figure) in a long form article. you obviously want this article to not be credible so you’ve felt the need to exaggerate about it twice.
     
  45. glimmer

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    also, when i lived in tuscaloosa i thought he was a solid reporter and did a good job covering events and asking hard questions during covid and the george floyd protests. he was one of the only reporters i remember who went after TPD when they shot an unarmed man dead in the middle of the street
     
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  46. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Self defense does not mean they were shot at first. I would assume if that was mentioned in the hearing, Ryan would have put it in the article.
     
  47. glimmer

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    regardless, self defense is bullshit. both men wanted to shoot at each other and they got their wish. and now a young woman is dead because of it
     
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  48. Daniel Ocean

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    glimmer has too much Bama in her.
     
  49. glimmer

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    you can check the username history for proof
     
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  50. Drew Swinney Esq

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    I’m not sure where you’re going? I haven’t given any opinion about charges, guilt ,innocence, or anything of the like in this thread.

    After him talking up sticking to facts relevant to the case, I almost stopped reading at this.

    You thought all of that was relevant. Cool