Alabama Basketball star murdered a woman; Alabama sold their dignity to lose in the Sweet 16

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  1. RJF-GUMP

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    There's absolutely no evidence that Miller knew there was a gun in his car. If he did read/ see the text he was almost already to Miles and had very little notice .
     
  2. RJF-GUMP

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    0 evidence to support that and if he did read it he was already on the way and almost there. He was the designated driver. If he read it he probably wanted to get to Miles and get him home.
     
  3. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    If there is a god, this team willl be knocked out and jamea’s family will take every penny Brandon Miller ever makes.
     
  4. Corch

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    I'm not a lawyer but text messages telling someone to bring a gun then that person shows up with a gun seems like evidence to me.
     
  5. RJF-GUMP

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    or maybe when all the facts come out, it will show he did nothing wrong, we will win the natty, and you’ll still be a crybaby bitch
     
  6. dblplay1212

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    There's absolutely no evidence that he didn't know it was there but by god you're going to make that assumption until it's proven he knew. I think knowing his attorney didn't note that Miller wasn't aware when the attorney had plenty of opportunity to do so shows that Miller knew it was there. The fact that you're running with "He didn't read the test and didn't know the gun was there" based on absolutely nothing kind proves my point from earlier.
     
  7. dblplay1212

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    The amount of mental gymnastics you're doing here would beat that AU girl that Napoleon Bonerfart loves to much.
     
  8. RJF-GUMP

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    We literally have a criminal justice system of innocent until proven guilty.
     
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  9. dblplay1212

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    He didn't know the gun was there!

    He didn't read the text!

    But if he did he was definitely too close to stop!

    :laugh:
     
  10. Deuce

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    Said differently, I can make assumptions but you can’t.

    How about we just don’t know either way?
     
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  11. RJF-GUMP

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    You’re bending over backwards to indict someone that has cooperated, is not a suspect, and where you’d have to admit, there is a scenario where he did nothing wrong.
     
  12. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    I’ve been on your side dbl!
     
  13. dblplay1212

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    I think the attorney having the opportunity to state those things and not doing so is a pretty clear indication that he read the text and knew the gun was there. That's two huge things that he wouldn't have just left out.
     
  14. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    There’s no need for that man.
     
  15. shivious

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    Remind me to strike dbl from future jury selections.
     
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  16. dblplay1212

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    Stop making shit up. I've said Miller should have sat while all of this is figured out. Sitting games isn't the same as indicting someone. I realize those two are of the same importance to you but they aren't the same thing.
     
  17. Daniel Ocean

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    consideration from whom? I think everything you said in this post explains why we in general (no matter your race) shouldn’t talk to cops. His mom being a cop obviously played a role in his decision and how he views cops. I’m not saying all POC act a certain way I am saying that there are things unique to being a POC that white people don’t understand that makes them behave and see things differently.
     
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  18. RJF-GUMP

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    I don’t know what’s worse, indicting someone with zero evidence, or doing it because you want to be seen a certain way on a message board.
     
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  19. shivious

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    I mean you did wish god to punish Brandon Miller because he plays for your rivals’ basketball team. I think the comment is fair game.
     
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  20. Deuce

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    If you start a sentence with “I think” you are making an assumption because you don’t know.

    The absence of information in the statement doesn’t make the opposite true. You are casting stones for making assumptions while making assumptions the other way.
     
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  21. dblplay1212

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    Mine is based on something, the lack of action of his attorney, not just vibes bc he's a Bama guy so let's make some shit up.
     
  22. Daniel Ocean

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    it makes no sense to say he got the first text but not the second one. It makes no sense that he received a text to bring a gun that he didn’t know was in his car. Why would Miles (?) text Miller to bring a gun unless Miles knew that Miller was aware of the guns existence. You have to jump through hoops to believe he didn’t know.
     
  23. Deuce

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    Again the lawyer not saying he didn’t read the text doesn’t mean he read the text.

    It means we don’t have the information and any opinion is an assumption.
     
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  24. junior5

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    It’s possible he thought his drunk friend was making a request that he didn’t take seriously. There are other possibilities besides he knew he was delivering a gun for murder
     
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  25. junior5

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    this is sad
     
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  26. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    The fuck are you talking about? God willing?

    It’s truly astonishing that you think that was serious.

    Yeah ,I’m on my knees begging to god…
     
  27. dblplay1212

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    Based on the lawyer not mentioning it when he was trying to clear the air on Miller's involvement, what do you think is more likely? He read it or the attorney just forgot to mention that crucial piece of information?
     
  28. dblplay1212

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  29. RJF-GUMP

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    You should probably take a few laps, log off, come back later.
     
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  30. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    Gladly.
     
  31. junior5

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    someone offers very real alternatives to your theories and you get mad but you have access to zero information regarding the case?
     
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  32. Deuce

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    I have no idea. I’m not an attorney and won’t pretend to be online. If he didn’t read it I don’t think the attorney forgot to include it. I think for some reason he decided not too. Again I’m not a lawyer.


    I also won’t tell someone their opinion is invalid because it is based on assumption while I myself am making assumptions(regardless of how I justify my assumption to myself), because that would make me a massive hypocrite.
     
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  33. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    Admittedly…I ate an edible and over did it.

    My bad but fuck all ya’ll anyway.
     
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  34. TrustyPatches

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  35. DDB

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    This is the hardest part for people to understand. They scream their opinions, and say fuck yours.
     
  36. Drown ‘Em

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    I must not be asking correctly what I’m trying to ask. I am not asking you about POC generally or to comment on POC as a whole. Personally, I haven’t used the term “the Black community” in over a decade as I am well aware of the fact that POC are not a monolith and there’s no such thing as a single Black community, so I don’t ask questions in such a manner.

    I want to know if you, Danny Ocean, who yes is a Black man and has the perspective of a Black man, think it’s possible that what has been said about Miles isn’t necessarily the truth but has been used by the police to charge him because he made the mistake, we agree on that, of cooperating with the police, with or without a lawyer. As a white man, I do think it’s possible. When I asked if he deserves the “same consideration” that not cooperating with the police doesn’t mean you are necessarily a suspect because of what has happened to
    Black men in our legal system, I was wondering whether you think his cooperation which led to charges could be an instance where the police used a young Black man’s cooperation against him? And if so, do you think that talking about Miles’ charges with such certainty is somewhat problematic?
     
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  37. Daniel Ocean

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    so now you’re saying he knew that the gun was in his car but didn’t know that what it was going to be used for? Okay fine. That’s obviously not enough to make him criminally responsible but isn’t knowingly delivering a gun that was used to murder someone enough to have him suspended from the team?
     
  38. Andy Reocho

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    Pot. Kettle.
     
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  39. Daniel Ocean

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    I don’t know if what he said is being twisted by the police in order to charge him. I hope not but I wouldn’t be shocked if it was. Hopefully he gets a fair trail and if he is guilty he is convicted if he isn’t I hope he is freed. I do believe that he shouldn’t have talked to the cops without a lawyer. FWIW I’m mixed.
     
  40. Napoleon Bonerfart

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  42. Daniel Ocean

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  43. Daniel Ocean

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  44. Drown ‘Em

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    I think this is all fair. I just happen to think that there are circumstances surrounding the situation that look like either side could be the aggressor or the “self-defender”. But that’s based on the little I think I know. But what I do know is that if what is being portrayed about Miles is wrong, then this whole situation takes on an entirely different feeling. Especially as it concerns Miller. At least to me.

    While I obviously meant no offense by calling you a Black man, if I did unintentionally offend you, which I don’t think I did, I apologize.
     
  45. RJF-GUMP

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    One guy was arrested for possession with intent to distribute and the other is not even a suspect. Spot on analogy here.
     
  46. Daniel Ocean

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    No offense taken just clarifying.
     
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  47. Daniel Ocean

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    lighten up Francis
     
  48. IV

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    in what world does Brandon Miller think those two dudes are going to open fire on the strip regardless?
     
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  49. Drown ‘Em

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    Didn’t think there was. Just didn’t want to not acknowledge the possibility after you mentioned it.
     
  50. dblplay1212

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    Nobody compared the two. Saban's choice of words was interesting though.