Alec Baldwin was one of the producers - I would assume that means he had a say in the working conditions and the decision to bring in non-union people. That kind of changes things, if you ask me.
Absolutely. You probably are a psychopath if you won’t have this bother you for the rest of your life in, at least, some capacity.
No, but if it is true he was behind those decisions, he would just be a neglectful slumlord who doesn't care about the dangers for his workers. They'd already had two prop-gun misfires on set.
Of course the GOP are a bunch of ghouls who are comparing a tragic accident to cops killing people but isn’t this what gus_chiggins did on the first page of this thread and got a bunch of likes for?
We can critique posters, absolutely. But it’s absolutely a worse thing when you are a public figure and say this kind of shit. (I know you get this, just want to also point out that she’s the scum of the earth)
Obviously Baldwin is experiencing a lot of grief and my heart goes out to him, but the producers of this movie need to be under heavy examination, and if he’s one of them, that includes him. That DP deserves justice and film crews deserve to be protected from senseless accidents like this while on set. Production companies and producers can not be allowed to skirt by on this shit.
was this bit of nuance posted? A source close to union said Local 44 does not know what projectile was in the gun and clarified that “live” is an industry term that refers to a gun being loaded with some material such as a blank ready for filming.
I’m obviously not attempting to say they are exactly the same thing. I was just pointing out that we had someone do something similar itt and no one blinked an eye.
the tweet is about a cop killing a civilian. Boberts reply is about cops killing civilians. Baldwin’s tweet is in no way imo comparable to the tragic accident.
The guy I talked to that works with this on a regular basis pretty clearly distinguished between "blanks" and "live" rounds. That sounds pretty damn risky to use the term live for blanks, but I don't work on sets regularly so wtf knows.
I am assuming here, so I caveat this. It could be that both blanks and regular ammunition are dangerous rounds so when either are loaded, the gun is live; meaning deadly. I still can’t understand why real bullets would be present on a movie set unless the were isolated for a specific scene.
"Halls is a veteran assistant director with scores of credits on productions involving prop guns, including Fargo, The Matrix Reloaded, and the TV cop comedy Reno 911."
Man that photo of Baldwin is rough. What a horrible situation for everyone involved. Remember that Midnight Rider incident with the train tracks? That was another rough one. Spoiler
Bunch of stuff popping up on Reddit about how unprofessional and shitty the set was. If it true, someone should go to jail and multiple people should be sued into oblivion and never allowed to work on a movie set again.
'Rust' assistant director had a history of unsafe practices, prop maker says David Douglas and Alicia Victoria Lozano Sat, October 23, 2021, 10:00 PM LOS ANGELES — The assistant director on the New Mexico set of "Rust" where Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins allowed an unsafe environment on more than one production, according to a prop maker who previously worked with him. In a detailed statement to NBC News, prop maker Maggie Goll said she was called to work on Hulu's "Into the Dark" anthology series in February 2019 and worked with Dave Halls, who "at first he seemed like an older, affable First [assistant director] with the usual run of idiosyncrasies, but that facade soon disappeared." "For those who don't already know, the anthology series was a 'Side Letter' agreement ... that allowed for lesser working conditions, no true jurisdiction over covered union work aka non-preferential hiring, and what amounts to poverty wages for the crew," Goll said. Halls handed the gun to Baldwin and yelled "Cold gun" before the fatal shooting, according to records filed in a Santa Fe court.
I've never worked in film production but I've rented venues out and had to witness the insane level of chaos that is a film set many times. Pretty much nothing surprises me aside from the fact that live rounds are on a set.
So after his stunt double used the same gun that previously had fired live rounds - "There should have been an investigation into what happened.....there were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn't happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush." Per LA Times
https://www.yahoo.com/news/detectives-loose-boxed-ammo-fanny-111526567.html This just keeps getting more absurd, I don't know anything about what scene they were filming but it sounds like this could have easily been even worse. "Detectives found loose and boxed ammunition, some of it in a fanny pack, at the New Mexico movie set of “Rust” after the fatal shooting of the Western’s cinematographer, according to a police search warrant inventory. Three black revolvers and nine spent shell casings also were collected, according to the list filed with the Santa Fe Magistrates Court and released Monday."
So to answer the previous question - apparently not only is live ammunition on set but being stored in a fanny pack.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/26/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-tuesday/index.html I had a feeling it would just end up being that someone wanted to shoot old western guns in an old western atmosphere and forgot to take out the real rounds.
Maybe this was covered but did Baldwin point a gun at his cinematographer and pull the trigger? I know there isn't 1 person to blame but he comes off looking really bad in this whole thing given that he was an EP as well.
Apparently they were filming a face-on shot as he pointed the gun in the direction of the camera and pulled the trigger. The same bullet/projectile hit both people as they were on the other side of the camera.
The way I saw it was it was a close up of the gun pointing to the camera. Since it's a revolver there had to be visible blanks in the rest of the gun. The fact that the scene needed to have visible bullets is even crazier that it was not double/triple checked.
If that is the case, then whoever was in charge of the firearms is a complete fucking idiot, because revolvers rotate the cylinder on the pull of the trigger, ie. on of the visible real bullets would be the one that’s loaded and fired.
I haven’t followed the details that closely and frankly they’re strangely lacking. Entertainment Tonight dug up some podcast audio of the 24 year old head armoror for the film where she was being honest about how nervous she was about the responsibility. However, that could’ve been anyone “running the show” saying that, rather than her not being qualified.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...post-unsafe-working-conditions-001341127.html It's a lot of instagram posts - but long story short - it's a costume designer saying much of the hoopla about unsafe working conditions is "bullshit" Baldwin reposted it.