Alexandria Ocasio Cortez proposes a Green New Deal

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  1. lechnerd

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    First of all: What is the Green New Deal?
    Essentially, it’s an ambitious piece of legislation that sets goals to cut carbon emissions across the economy in industries from transportation to agriculture. And in doing so, it also hopes to create more jobs and boost the economy.

    The Green New Deal isn’t new: The idea has been discussed for years, and the term dates back as far as 2003. However, Ocasio-Cortez helped draw national attention to it after she was elected and became an outspoken advocate, joining Green New Deal exponents who protested outside of Nancy Pelosi’s office a few months ago. Thursday’s outline is the closest we’ve come to an “official” version of the Green New Deal so far.

    What exactly is it meant to do?
    According to the outline, which was obtained by NPR, some of its goals include a shift to 100 percent renewable and zero-emission energy sources, with a ten-year “economic mobilization” to phase out fossil fuels and transition away from nuclear energy.

    documents from Ocasio-Cortez’s office, it also calls for jobs “with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations and retirement security” for every American. It also calls for high-quality health care for everyone in the U.S.

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    Who supports it?
    The Green New Deal has received support from several 2020 presidential hopefuls, including Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, and Cory Booker. According to the Washington Post, Gillibrand, Harris, Booker, and Elizabeth Warren will also co-sponsor the plan, and 9 senators and 60 House members are on board.

    However, as NPR noted, it’s unclear if House leadership will adopt the plan.

    Speaking to Politico on Wednesday, Nancy Pelosi called the Green New Deal “one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive. The green dream or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it right?”

    Last year, hundreds of young activists staged a sit-in at Pelosi’s office to advocate for the Green New Deal. After 61 protestors were arrested, she granted them a meeting, and her spokesman told Vice News that “addressing climate change remains a top priority for Speaker-designate Pelosi.”

    The Washington Post reports that on Thursday, Pelosi said she welcomes the “enthusiasm” about the Deal, but did not say that she would endorse it.

    Where does it go from here?
    Ocasio-Cortez and Markey are set to discuss the Green New Deal at a news conference on Thursday afternoon at 12:30 p.m. EST.

    Beyond that, the legislation is still in its early stages, though it will likely be a topic of debate in both the 2020 congressional elections and the presidential election.

    “I do think that when there’s a wide spectrum of debate on an issue, that is where the public plays a role,” Ocasio-Cortez told NPR. “That is where the public needs to call their member of Congress and say, ‘This is something that I care about.’ Where I do have trust is in my colleagues’ capacity to change and evolve and be adaptable and listen to their constituents.”
     
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  2. allothersnsused

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    Sounds great to me, provided that I individually do not have to change anything about my daily life even the smallest amount (unless it is better for me).
     
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  3. PCH

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    That's not even what the green deal implies.
     
  4. Blackterno

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    This bitch sure doesn’t disappoint when it comes to bringing comedic relief.
     
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  5. Lawnole23

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    That sounds pricey.
     
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  6. angus

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    Will definitely add millions of jobs.
     
  7. * J Y *

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    I feel like her pr team could do wonders for my business.
     
  8. stexraider

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    I wonder what the estimate is of people in the unwilling to work category
     
  9. Joe_Pesci

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    You're quite a treat
     
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  10. Blackterno

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    And how exactly is all of this stuff supposed to be paid for?
     
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  11. lechnerd

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    It will PAY FOR ITSELF dummy!
     
  12. DaveGrohl

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    Mexico will pay for it
     
  13. Joe_Pesci

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    Maybe we can convert bad posting into some sort of currency
     
  14. BrickTamland

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    Is there a full text publicly available?
     
  15. lechnerd

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    You would be rich bro.
     
  16. BamaNug

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    99.9% tax on anyone making more than $100K/year
     
  17. lechnerd

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    Yes it’s written down on recycled papyrus.
     
  18. bhrangerfan0809

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  19. Joe_Pesci

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    Hopefully you can keep better composure in here than you did in your state of the union thread
     
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  20. BrickTamland

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  25. Blackterno

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  28. Joe_Pesci

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    Btw what is with these weird news aggregator twitter accounts that dont actually cited anything beyond like "-wsj"

    This is the second one I've seen today
     
  29. Lyrtch

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    welfare queen says what
     
  30. allothersnsused

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    Look, I'm all for democracy and improving America and everything, but if you're going to ask me to read six whole pages of real life words then buddy... I'll stick with my pre-existing biases, thanks
     
  31. TrustyPatches

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  32. Frank Martin

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    I was watching my 600 lb life last night and it never dawned on me that you could just get so fat you never have to work. This lady had never had a job in her life but was able to have her own place and everything.

    Ultimate cheat code.
     
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  33. beist

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    Sounds like I get a new house out of the deal. Sign me up.
     
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  34. visa

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    Blackterno, huh? Mmk. At least these threads bring em out.
     
  35. Frank Martin

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    I really wonder the future of free education is and how it works in Europe. I looked at the account of a student of mine today.

    He's taking 6 credit hours and taking out $5,700 in student loans for the courses. The best part he doesn't even pay tuition and fees and receive a monthly housing stipend from the VA. But he's still going to leave school with thousands and thousands of dollars of student loans for no reason.
     
  36. SP1

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    Improved the OP for you lechnerd , thanks for starting this thread to spread info and encourage debate
     
  37. The Banks

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    Just like the 70% top marginal tax rate, she is getting the discussion going nationwide. Something Democrats have failed to do over and over again. For that alone, I commend her.
     
  38. Redav

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    Yes
     
  39. TrustyPatches

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    “Liberals wanna kill babies!!” Never mind that’s a gross oversimplification but just the fact it’s literally the only marginally empathetic issue these weirdos hang their hats on.
     
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  41. Fusiontegra

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  42. NCHusker88

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  43. BrickTamland

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    Agreed that ideas should be talked about.

    Are there debate outlets anymore where she or others will present this and both sides can have a longform conversation? CSPAN?
     
  44. aspenbuff

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    Indeed, thanks.
     
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  46. lechnerd

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  47. CaneKnight

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  48. NCHusker88

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  49. wes tegg

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  50. IrishLAX2

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    It’s the non-green proposals in here that are the funniest.

    Though a moratorium on gassy cows is pretty good in itself.