American Crime Story 3.0: Impeachment

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  1. TheoB

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    About sums it up. Schwimmer I think is ok though.

    The Goldman scene was ridiculously bad. The guy seriously frightened me when he yelled out
     
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  2. RalfBully

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    I think Schwimmer is doing fine actually. I hate every character that Ross does because he comes across as a little bitch to me still, but that is exactly how they are portraying Kardashian to be.
     
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  3. Truman

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    Yeah they obviously casted Kardashian as a pushover. Schwimmer is doing a great job portraying that
     
  4. Lorne Malvo

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    My favorite scene of last night. I was dying.
     
  5. RalfBully

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    i apparently missed this. what part?
     
  6. dathalfnukkahd

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    Im all caught up. Shout out to the legend, Johnny Cochran. RIP!
     
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  7. Daniel Ocean

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    What are you guys' opinions on his guilt? Has the show so far changed what you originally believed?
     
  8. TheoB

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    Yes thanks to Cuba's sterling performance, I'm pretty sure he was innocent. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to rewatch
     
  9. Daniel Ocean

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    Sorry for attempting to actually discuss something. Maybe we should just go back to bitching about the Kardashin kids.

    Carry on.
     
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  10. TheoB

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    Honestly, I thought you were being sarcastic, so I was too. I didn't think anyone thought this was going to be some sort of true crime docudrama.
     
  11. Codename Duchess

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    This shouldn't be the type of series to make someone change an opinion about his guilt or innocence. They already changed OJ's phone conversation with the police when they alerted him about Nicole.
     
  12. GrizzliesDrew

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    You know he wrote a book where he "hypothetically" described how he murdered them, right?
     
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    The opening scene of this past week's episode was great, kinda wish it was the opener of the series.
     
  14. Daniel Ocean

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    Yes I know that. I didn't say if I thought he was guilty or innocent. IMO he obviously did it just wondering what others believe.
     
  15. Tilly

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    "If I did it" was a strange read. You get the most positive oj spin ever - a few pages of weird like out of body description of the lead up and aftermath of the crime (but not the actual murder) and he's got some random dude with him the whole time (and no detail on what happened to the knife) - then we're back to positive oj spin.

    But yeah, he definitely did it. No way one (or even a few if you believe the cops all agreed to frame him within minutes of meeting each other) cops could plant all that evidence so quickly. It was just a great job by the defense of poking every hole they could in the evidence, a jury who didn't want to convict for various reasons, prosecution blunders, and incredible luck with the Fuhrman stuff.

    As to the acting, I kind of thought Goldman's dad did an ok job. Angry as fuck, loud, and just strange in general. And this was in press conferences over a year later during trial. I'd imagine he was even more bizarre immediately after the murders.
     
  16. wstrojan

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    To be honest knowing what we know now about DNA, etc I can't imagine there's anyone alive that thinks he didn't do it. I mean no one. Maybe you can believe Jason did it, but the only other alternative is that the police murdered them and then framed him. The same police he was friendly with.

    I always thought if there were people who wanted him to get off bc of social justice issues, that i understood. But I can't fathom someone that was hoping he'd be acquitted bc they truly thought he didn't do it.
     
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  18. Truman

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    Did that guy pass out during opening statements IRL? And was Furhman found to have Nazi shit?
     
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  19. Daniel Ocean

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    Nigger please
     
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  20. Truman

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    So... is that a y/n/maybe.

    Circle one.
     
  21. Daniel Ocean

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    IDK I just wanted to write what Johhny said
     
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  22. dathalfnukkahd

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    Nah it was after opening statements in a closed door meeting and it wasn't a heart attack, it was more of an anxiety attack or stress condition.
     
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  23. dathalfnukkahd

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    Read up on this too. That whole scene happened. Only thing different is that he whispered the "nigger please" to him.
     
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  24. Daniel Ocean

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    Reading up on it, it appears that he did have Nazi shit.
     
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  25. Daniel Ocean

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    I had to rewind it a couple of times to see if he actually dropped the hard R
     
  26. Gambler

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    He never should've been allowed to go home during the bronco chase. He should've been forced to turn himself in. All those police cars could've blocked him in. If he really threatened to shoot himself, let him.
     
  27. Truman

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    Also - for the lawyers or anyone :

    What's the point of having the jury and assume the press/everyone walk through his home?
     
  28. TheoB

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    The purpose was to show crime scene and better demonstrate where the blood drops were located, establish paths/footprint locations. Show how only one person could commit murder at her condo because of tight quarters.

    That being said, it's not typical.

    The show took some liberties though. I don't think they were allowed in the trophy rooms. And that statue of himself was in the garage I think
     
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  29. Truman

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    Having no legal background - it just felt weird to me. The jury is supposed to be pretty insulated from everything. Felt like a shitload of people were at that house and the jurors could be easily influenced by someone whispering in their ear or something
     
  30. TheoB

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    It was definitely weird and unusual. But in that case I think both prosecution and defense wanted to do it because they both thought it helped them more than the other side. And Ito let them do whatever. I don't think reporters or anyone like that were there with them though. Just the attorneys, Ito, jurors, and oj.
     
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  31. Rebelution

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    "For this, it seems, the writers turned away from Toobin's largely legal tome to the 1996 Lawrence Schiller blow-by-blow account, American Tragedy: The Uncensored History of the O.J. Simpson Defense. According to that book, the defense wanted to show the murder scene to prove that it was such a small space, O.J. would have been covered in blood — and to show his home in order to convince them that he had too much to lose to commit the murder. The only problem, as Cochran saw it, was that his house's decorations wouldn't resonate with the largely black jury. So they did change out the pictures of white women — including a nude of his girlfriend, Paula Barbieri — with portraits of his black family. Funny enough, the art that came in from the Cochran collection, which Johnnie wanted because it "depict[ed] African American history," was a Rockwell print from his office ... one which depicted a young black girl, surrounded by federal agents, walking into school.
     
  32. Tilly

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    I think it was a sound decision to give the jurors a better understanding of the facts and what each side was arguing. It's hard to articulate the surroundings of disputed events. Letting them see the crime scene and oj's house was warranted imo.

    Regarding the susceptibility of the jury, if they're susceptible to minor suggestions on a site visit, the rampant media coverage was going to irrevocably influence that person's vote regardless. Seems like harmless error to me.
     
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  33. Fran Tarkenton

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    The show isnt likely depicting exactly how the case procedurally unfolded.

    I mean, they made it appeared they were nationally broadcasting evidentiary hearings.
     
  34. Truman

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    I know they're taking liberties which was the reason for my question. My post was more asking a question of if that sort of thing actually happens and why.
     
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    So what you're saying here is that if only Steven Avery could be black......
     
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  36. Tilly

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    Or if manitowoc had recently had white trash junk yard riots.
     
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  37. AIP

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    I know plenty of non racists who have nazi stuff though, I even have a dress knife from WW2 that my grandfather brought back from the war somewhere.

    Although I am sure this guys were more then collectables
     
  38. Daniel Ocean

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    Yeah i don't think in off itself it proves anything but there are implications (kinda of like when you're on a boat)
     
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  39. Fran Tarkenton

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    UPDATE: LAPD confirms a knife was found on former property of OJ Simpson, more details expected this morning. http://4.nbcla.com/cN5KTYP
     
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  40. Tilly

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    That article is confusing as fuck. Guy finds the knife in like 1998. Hands it over to police then. 18 years later the police are finally going to test it?

    Also, if it was buried on the property, how did the police not find it with how intense that search was? I mean, I'm no John Oliver when it comes to investigations, but you'd presume with a missing knife used in a murder the police might grab some metal detectors or notice and investigate a recently dug hole.
     
  41. Fran Tarkenton

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    yea no clue

    but remembering how the case unfolded 20 years ago - I am not expecting anything to make sense.
     
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  42. Tilly

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    Makes perfect sense. Mark Fuhrman clearly must have went into the construction business after he was fired by the LAPD. Only scenario that possibly makes sense.
     
  43. AIP

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    it has not changed, just that even his own team does not believe him.
     
  44. TheoB

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    Because the officer held onto it thinking the case was closed...supposedly. So I don't think they knew he had it. He just planned on keeping it or displaying it at his house or something.
     
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  46. MtOread

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    Show good.
     
  47. Daniel Ocean

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    I feel sorry for Clark.
     
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  48. TheoB

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    I remember Clark getting ridiculed for the hair etc. but I totally forgot about the naked photo stuff
     
  49. TheoB

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    Also....

    1) oj double take at new haircut
    2) Shapiro thumbs up to her when everyone is looking at new haircut
    3) boyz to men cues during hair scenes

    Had me cracking up
     
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    Tampon checkout was amazing
     
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