Does this injury open up a DP spot for this sesson? wonder if we could work out a season loan deal for a quality striker struggling for minutes elsewhere
Actually there looks to be some confusion there now, I don't think anybody understands MLS roster rules
If MLS was smart, they’d just be like “yea, totally opens up a DP slot...” The last thing they should want is one of their best franchises having a down year.
Really wishing we'd held onto Tito for just a few more weeks. I think Jan will be a big step down from him talent wise. Also, Hyndman up for goal of the week: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/03/01/vote-att-goal-week-week-1
Explaining Atlanta United's roster options in wake of Josef Martinez injury March 2, 20205:01PM ESTMartinez went down in agony under the Nashville winter sky, clutching his knee in the 63rd minute. While he briefly tried to soldier on, he eventually left the stadium in an air cast. The club won't know for sure how long Martinez is out until he has surgery, which cannot happen until the swelling in his knee goes down. A date has not been set. But it's already clear that it's going to be a long time with Martinez on the sidelines. The only question is whether his season is over mere minutes after it got started. There is much for Atlanta to ponder in the coming days and weeks. With this season's new roster rules and regulations, there's three main options for the club to consider. Season-ending injury list Though it would come with the thudding finality that we won't get to see the superstar play until 2021, Atlanta could place Martinez on the season-ending injury list. Such a move would render him ineligible across all competitions for the remainder of the year, but they'd get some roster relief. Atlanta wouldn't get his Designated Player slot back, but, as Martinez makes more than $100,000 this season, they would be eligible to receive another senior roster spot to sign a replacement player. The replacement player can be signed for up to $250,000 this season, which would be an exemption on top of the salary cap. The 2018 MLS Cup winners would not be able to use allocation money to buy down that figure, meaning they couldn't acquire a player on more than $250,000 if they are designated as an injury-replacement. Theoretically, they could clear another senior roster spot to sign a more expensive player, should they have the budget (and/or allocation money) to do so. Atlanta United have until the end of the Primary Transfer Window (May 5) to decide to place Martinez on the season-ending injury list and sign a replacement. Clubs can only sign one replacement player per season. Injured list Placing Martinez on the injured list would crack the door open for a late-season return while still offering some limited roster relief. The move would make him ineligible for a minimum of six MLS league games. During the time Martinez is out, the club would have an extra senior roster spot to use. If he returns, the club would lose that extra roster spot. This move doesn't come with any additional budget help, but the club could spend whatever they could fit under the salary cap on that player. Remember: Atlanta acquired a base of $750,000 Targeted Allocation Money plus an additional $350,000 in incentives from D.C. United for Julian Gressel, as well as $1.05 million in allocation from Columbus Crew SC for Darlington Nagbe. They also received a transfer fee for Tito Villalba, up to $1 million of which can be converted into General Allocation Money. Wait and see Atlanta, of course, may get a silver lining after surgery. Maybe there's a chance he returns at any point between now and MLS Cup in eight months. If that's the case, they wouldn't use the season-ending injury list and maybe they look to avoid a headache down the line of having to cut someone, if they opted to put him on the injured list and sign a replacement. They wouldn't get any cap relief from the league, nor an extra roster slot, but they are in a good spot by way of flexibility for the season. They have 23 total roster spots taken, suggesting wiggle room on the senior spots (of which clubs can use 20.) As written above, the club ostensibly have some allocation money to use should a more expensive option be in the club's plans.
not being able to use whatever amount of allocation money we have if he goes on the season ending list is the stupidest fucking thing ever, like it's so stupid I almost just want to assume he's wrong there
what does this mean then? The 2018 MLS Cup winners would not be able to use allocation money to buy down that figure, meaning they couldn't acquire a player on more than $250,000 if they are designated as an injury-replacement.
"that" figure = to that roster spot that opened via injury designation we have a prior senior roster spot (international too) that we can use xAM on
ahhh don't know how I forgot about that other spot but if we didn't have it we'd only be allowed to spend $250k regardless of available money?
I don’t think so, you can use TAM on any roster spot. I think he’s saying they can only have a salary cap hit of $250k, so we could use available TAM for a better player.
thanks guys, think I'm just gonna go back to my not caring to learn the ins and outs of roster construction/just waiting to see the final result modus operandi
Who remembers when we almost signed this guy as our 3rd DP for the inaugural season? Then China came in and doubled our offer, so we then went after Josef instead. https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/20...anta-united-oscar-romero-transfer-rumors-news He's back from China now.
It'd be cool seeing Sargent step into a role like that, but if we're just trying to find a one year stopgap then I feel like this is one of those times where it'd be better to break away from our youth model and go with a more experienced/proven talent
Went and got tacos and margaritas instead of tailgating. Gonna sit in my season ticket seats that I waited over a year for and get drunk.
no Franco or Miles, Rossetto and Bello are on the bench though really couldn't have asked for a better opponent than Cincy at home here no jinxy
gonna be reeeally interesting to see how Frank handles this because I feel like Rossetto's a guy we won't be able to keep off the field, don't know if it's a 3 man midfield or either Pity or Barco takes Jahn's spot playing a false 9 but he's gonna play grew up in one of Brazil's bigger squads but couldn't regularly crack the starting 11
I assumed he'd be out basically the entire season, seems like an ACL tear is like a minimum 6 months recovery and then he'd have to go through a lot of conditioning work.
honestly I'd prefer he just takes the full year to get to 100% instead of rushing back if/when he's cleared, putting him on the season ending list also gives us more leverage with his replacement
I think Pity/bravo/rossetto should be the top 3. Jahn should be a late sub. Pity’s ability to compliment Josef was beginning to pick up but he’s still a natural scorer and wants to put shots on goal. It’s not like we are a physical team anyway.
That was an awesome outing from Pity late arriving crowd, but good atmosphere for a full stadium setup. Just happy ATLUTD is back. Barco improves his finishing and his value is unreal.