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  1. Bishop

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    I bet the Atlanta United Accounting Department is paid well.
     
  2. Arrec Bardwin

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    I have spent more time than I’d like to admit reading the rules
     
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  3. Wu

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    It’s whatever Garber’s abacus determines it is.
     
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  4. Arrec Bardwin

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    Yes it’s all subject to change on a moments notice, which is why I don’t want to admit to thoroughly reading everything MLS publishes about it.
     
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  5. Arrec Bardwin

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    Lucky for us we are the new league cash cow so the rules should change in our favor.
     
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  6. Hail Southern

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    It's pretty terrible but they have done a good job surviving in the US and not going the way of the NASL in the 70's that went belly up due to uncontrolled spending.

    If things keep booming for the next decade then you can expect the rules to get a lot more clean and more closely resemble other leagues around the world.
     
  7. Wu

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    Easy there, Sheikh
     
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  8. Arrec Bardwin

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    You know I’m right
     
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  9. DirtBall

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    You were like 5th on Forbes list of total revenue. Lord Zlatan bows down for none.
     
  10. Arrec Bardwin

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    Those numbers were from last year when we weren’t making money off concessions for half the season or putting 70k plus in there for as many games. Should look pretty different this season.
     
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  11. Arrec Bardwin

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    DirtBall what is it like to be a fan of a team that has merely average attendance?
     
  12. Fran Tarkenton

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    https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/ne...-players-sampaolis-agent-misses-atlanta-trip/


    Sampaoli's agent misses ATL trip, but there's still contact
    CBS Sports reported last weekend that Jorge Sampoali's agent was set to meet with Atlanta United on Sunday, the day after the club won MLS Cup 2018. But sources tell CBS Sports that the agent did not end up making the trip, and an associate of his was in Atlanta in his place.

    With all signs pointing to Tata Martino taking the Mexico job, whoever is the next coach will enter a situation that is expected to see a lot of change. Gone is Greg Garza, picked up by FC Cincinnati in the expansion draft, and it remains to be seen what happens with Miguel Almiron. Which leads us to ...


    What's next for Atlanta's Almiron, Martinez?
    The club says it hasn't received an offer from Almiron (per he Atlanta Journal-Constitution), but based on the way he walked off the field waving at the rowdy fans of the Five Stripes when he was subbed out in the second half of Saturday's final, it certainly felt like a goodbye. He's arguably the best player in Major League Soccer and is looked at as a sure-fire talent that can thrice in European competitions -- his previous stops at Lanus and in MLS has only reinforced that.

    On the plus side, league MVP Josef Martinez looks like he's there to stay. He said before the final that he'll stay as long as they'll have him, and sources told CBS Sports he has zero interest right now in giving Europe a try again.
     
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  13. Fran Tarkenton

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    this is lamer than Dirtball clinging to MLS 2.0

     
  14. MORBO!

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    lol what a moral victory it must be to just say "our fans are better"
     
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  15. Arrec Bardwin

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    Lol at trying to say our sound system is responsible for the noise.
     
  16. Arrec Bardwin

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    I’m also very “active” when I’m waving my phone light late 2nd half, thanks Don.
     
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  17. DirtBall

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    108% capacity :smug:
     
  18. Arrec Bardwin

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    108% of a shoebox is still a shoebox
     
  19. DirtBall

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    Gotta keep things only for the elites. I don’t want a bunch of poors sneaking into my stadium.
     
  20. MA

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    What was this?
     
  21. Arrec Bardwin

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    Lol nothing in Kansas is elite other than KU basketball.
     
  22. Arrec Bardwin

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    Some guy trying to claim our l atmosphere is fake and terrible and that he is awesome and actually impacts games for Portland unlike our fans. He was getting killed.

    I screenshot it, will post later.
     
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  23. MORBO!

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    Yea, our stadium was an nfl type atmosphere with the speakers too loud and dancers and cheerleaders and pyrotechnics and whatnot. It wasn’t a pure soccer watching experience where he could sing 30 minutes before the match and 30 minutes after. We played MUSIC before the game! The nerve.
     
  24. Festus McBadass

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    Never been to an NFL game that hype. Well maybe the NFC championship a couple years ago.
     
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  25. Fran Tarkenton

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    this guy has an 8 tweet apology on it. It was embarrassing. Some fans are spectators, but others with superiority like Portland fans are supporters.
     
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  26. Festus McBadass

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    Josef, Miggy, Escobar and LGP named to the Postseason XI.
     
  27. Fran Tarkenton

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    Here it is

    My Perspective: Portland Timbers vs. Atlanta United "Atmosphere"

    –by Don Cox, Timbers Supporter Since May 1975

    After a 8-hour trip back to Portland from the MLS Cup in Atlanta and a full day's rest, I have thought about the Atlanta United "experience" during that match – what is often referred to as "atmosphere." I realized that one's feelings about atmosphere come from various experiences each of us have had in our lives; many may not even be sports-related. So I reflected on my own life experiences that I feel deep inside and how those experiences shape my view (and enjoyment or not) of atmosphere, and what I like and dislike. As for me, the Portland Timbers and Thorns, with the Timbers Army and Rose City Riveters, get it right – at least for this supporter. Atlanta United, for the most part, gets it wrong – at least, again, for this supporter.

    Was I impressed with Atlanta United's atmosphere? In several ways, yes. The volume of sound 70,000 fans in an enclosed stadium when all yelling in unison is definitely impressive. I felt Atlanta United was on par with my favorite NFL team, the Minnesota Vikings, in their home stadium atmosphere (although the Vikings' opening video for intros is MUCH more impressive). If you like chest-pounding sound system music and a cheerleader announcing over the speaker system in the stadium, as well as a loud train horn going off at moments of the match, then the Atlanta United atmosphere is for you. That atmosphere is the same as one would experience at a Trail Blazers game, where "entertainment" seems to be the thing with dancers, gymnasts, loud music, so that there is never a "dull moment." Timeout called? Send in the entertainers. If you're looking for entertainment, then this atmosphere may be for you. For MLS marketing, this may be for you. I do want MLS to succeed (having personally experienced the disappearance of the original NASL), so this atmosphere may be required in some markets. If you primarily want to be aspectator, then the Atlanta United atmosphere is for you. I am not a spectator when I attend Portland Timbers matches, home or away. "How is that?" you ask. A spectator is passive – and I want to be active.

    "Spectator" - Defined as a person who looks on or watches; an onlooker, observer; a person who is present at and views a spectacle, display, or the like, member of an audience.

    I am a supporter. I believe a supporter is active. I want to be active and feel I am helping my team in some way – and this is where I realize that my life experiences may be that reason. I played basketball on school teams from grade school through high school. I played in the concert band from grade school through high school. I have sung in choirs from grade school to the present. I coached youth soccer teams and basketball teams and played on adult coed soccer teams. Each of these activities required me to be a part of a team, doing my active part to help the whole and achieve our objectives. Each of these activities allowed me to become a part of each of those "families".

    In the initial season of the Portland Timbers – 1975 – Coach Vic Crowe required players to be active with the fans in order to grow the sport. The "lap of honor" after each match was part of this connection to the fans, as well as the post-game meet-and-greet at the Hilton downtown and picnics with supporters. In that first season, I felt that connection to the team and felt I was part of the Timbers family. In the USL era I was part of the initial Timbers Army, and volunteered to be one who cooked the hot dogs and burgers on the BBQ for the group and team at get-togethers once a season at Washington Park. That culture continues to today: the Portland Timbers team is part of our community and its players are active in our community. Over the years this connection to community has continued, and being active is part of our Timbers/Thorns culture.

    In the first year of the A-League (pre-USL) Timbers, Kurt Schubothe invited me down to section 107 of PGE Park (now Providence Park). He explained it was a lot of fun with singing and chanting. So my sons and I joined in with this active support with that initial group of 25 or so people. This group grew – 25 to 75 to 100 to 1000 – to now over 5,000 at Providence Park. I have shared with many people that being in the Timbers Army on match day and staying active in the songs and chants for the full 90 minutes is the closest thing I can experience to playing and impacting the match without actually being on the field. When I say that, it relates back to what I shared earlier – my basketball and soccer playing, band playing, choir singing activities where I am an active part of a larger whole, a family, to achieve the objective.

    At Providence Park, singing and chanting with the Timbers Army for the full 90 minutes, I truly feel I am impacting the match, giving the players more energy as they feel our support behind them. I feel part of the team in this way. In addition, having a stadium of the size where I can see the players' faces adds an additional connection to the team. Having a front office that supports my efforts and doesn't drown me (us) out with loud music from a sound system is very important to me. I am thankful for their recognition and support of us. Outside match day, we continue those efforts for family (community) through many service projects for which we can be proud – where players join in side by side through the Timbers' Stand Together activities, and through Timbers Army, Riveters, and Operation Pitch Invasion projects. So our culture goes beyond match day experiences.

    At the MLS Cup match in Atlanta, I felt I was personally at war with Atlanta due to the battle of my singing and chanting against the blaring sound system employed at Mercedes Benz Stadium. I believe the rest of the Timbers Army present felt much the same way as I did. I couldn't hear a word of anything the Atlanta supporters group was singing or chanting, so I can't say I witnessed that they did anything, other than the "ATL" chant and the flags I saw waving. I could hear our Timbers Army most of the time, but I was embedded in our group – and I could hardly hear myself at times due to the loud speaker volume and was concerned we couldn't be heard by our team on the field. I became very frustrated and had to persevere when my thoughts started to become "What's the use, I can't even hear myself over this blaring sound system." Yet, I would look at our capo, Sunday, encouraging us forward, and our drummers pounding out the beat (even lacking the two larger drums due to Atlanta's broken promises) – and so I continued to use my voice as best I could. Atlanta's actions regarding not allowing our big drums in, as well as a few other pieces of news I heard prior to the match start, were also incentives for me to be louder and continue on through the Atlanta sound system barrage. I felt Atlanta United truly was killing the supporter environment and wanting me to become a spectator. To borrow a phrase from the political world: "but I persisted." And the Timbers Army persisted – and we can be proud of what we brought to the match.

    In summary, if you want to primarily be a spectator, follow the Atlanta United model. If you want to be active, and have active supporters, and feel that you have an impact on the match and a connection to the players and to each other, then the Portland model is where you want to be. Providence Park is our soccer cathedral. Portland Timbers/Thorns – Timbers Army/Rose City Riveters is the active participatory congregation singing our hymns and shouting our creeds. I want it that way. Now for my encouragement to you: If you want to be Timbers Army (or Rose City Riveters) - you have an obligation to be participatory. It is our culture. It is who we are. Don't be just a spectator! Keep our atmosphere alive! My hope is with our stadium expansion and many of our Timbers Army family relocating, that our "participatory" congregation will grow larger in the other parts of the stadium.

    See you in the north end and beyond in 2019!
     
  28. Festus McBadass

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    Maybe I’m always drunk or just don’t notice, but other than before the match, do we even do anything over the stadium’s sound system?

    And the horn going off randomly? Oh you mean only after we score goals? Yeah, I guess that’s random when your team doesn’t score.
     
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  29. Shiggityshwo

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    Started reading but then I stopped once he got to his grade school basketball chapter
     
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  30. Andy Reocho

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    Paraguayan papers/reporters keep saying it's almost done. Apparently via Almiron's dad?
     
  31. Fran Tarkenton

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  32. Arrec Bardwin

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    It’s pretty clear that’s from Almirons camp. A lot of speculation that no acceptable offer will be made by Mike Ashley and this will only happen if there is a takeover.
     
  33. Fran Tarkenton

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    just more confirmation

     
  34. Shiggityshwo

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    I take it he can't technically come in until Miggy's gone?
     
  35. Gaknight

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    I don’t want GBS. His system doesn’t mesh with what we have been doing.
     
  36. Arrec Bardwin

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    We would have to trade players for a lot of TAM/GAM to buy Barco or Josef down to have both.
     
  37. Wu

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    Francis, get the goddamn thread icon back

    What is this amateur hour
     
  38. DirtBall

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    According to Stejskal it wouldn’t be possible due to their signing bonuses and how that’s assesed per season. When the rumor went off about limiting DPs to 2 per team I thought you guys were safe but he said you (Seattle and LAG) were screwed due to how signing bonuses were attributed:

     
  39. Chipper>Jeter

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    Uncle Arthur needs to petition the league for a luxury tax, keep Miggy, buy Pity, and create a dynasty in ATL.
     
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  40. TheFreak55

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    but how do we keep Argentinian SAF
     
  41. Fran Tarkenton

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  43. Gaknight

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    I once described you to someone(karl maybe?) and my description included the guy with great hair
     
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  44. MORBO!

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    :blush:
     
  45. Bishop

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    I see an Atlanta United ad on my FB newsfeed about championship gear. First response is someone clamoring for this shirt, and I laughed. It was my first time seeing it.

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  47. Fran Tarkenton

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    MLS Cup broadcast but with 92.9 commentary

     
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