Aunt Becky from full house among 4 dozen indicted in college admissions scandal

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  1. Gallant Knight

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    Private schools and universities should just be able to charge different people different rates. A lot of them already do under the guise of scholarships

    if your favorite college is good at baseball you can’t support these people going to prison because most of your team is on bullshit academic scholarships because of the 11.7 scholarship limit
     
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  2. Gallant Knight

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    Anyone who takes an sat or act prep course is taking the spot of a less deserving student who wouldn’t afford one
     
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  3. BudKilmer

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    :roll: at thinking this is the same thing as what Loughlin did
     
  4. Gallant Knight

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    Obviously took a prep class and got into school and took the spot of a less privileged applicant
     
  5. bwi2

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    or that paying off a coach to defraud the school on your behalf is in the same universe as getting a scholarship from the school on any basis
     
  6. Lyrtch

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    is this a lets just make the privilege really on front street so people realize it more and we address the inequality frame?
     
  7. Gallant Knight

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    What about the Ivy League schools who don’t offer athletic scholarships but ease admission guidelines for recruited athletes? I know multiple people who were admitted to Ivy League schools and played for one semester and then quit sports but still got the benefit of going to those schools

    should they be kicked out? If you did that at a D1 school you’re losing your scholarship. If you do that at brown there are no repercussions
     
  8. Gallant Knight

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    It’s more who gives a fuck what private schools do. The whole college ecosystem is trash.

    state schools missions should be to educate the kids from their state

    private schools missions should be to educate whoever they want to admit
     
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    anyone thinking prison is justified for her is :roll: as well
     
  10. Lyrtch

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    and the fear with just letting private schools do whatever they want even beyond what they do now is it'd end up like the public/private issues you see in many states, it just makes the inequalities worse

    but im also team make public universities free and remove the federal loan capability from private colleges

    am curious what CA removing SAT/ACT's from admission criteria will look like down the road
     
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  11. Gallant Knight

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    The real inequality is places like u of Texas who by law have the admit the top 10% of all public high schools

    they admit the top 10% and no more from high schools in low economic areas and admit more than that from houston and Dallas suburbs because zomg the schools are better and its more competitive. Fuck that
     
  12. BudKilmer

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    I don’t want prison but huge fines are justifiable.


    They paid doctors to falsely diagnose them so they could take an untimed test under with a proctor who would tell them the answers.

    :laugh: at thinking that is the same thing as running down to Barnes and Nobles for an ACT prep guide
     
  13. Gallant Knight

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    Agreed on tuition for public schools for in state students. But think they should be able to charge for room and board

    out of state students should have to pay
     
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  14. Lyrtch

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    well yeah, the dynamics of how we entrench inequality through funding of schools at local levels is gross but the nimby's are vicious
     
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  15. Mister Me Too

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    I do wish they would get prison time, but that’s because I’m bias and have a boner for wanting white collar crimes taken seriously.
     
  16. Gallant Knight

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    My favorite are the people who send their kids to private k-12 because the public schools they’re zoned to have too many minorities
     
  17. Gallant Knight

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    Anyway, my position on this basically boils down to I don’t care what private schools do or what bs parents and/or their kids do to get admitted. Most of the kids are already there because their parents are wealthy. Who cares if another wealthy kid gets in for dubious reasons
     
  18. Fran Tarkenton

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    Problem is that Private schools take in federal public $. So while you as a privileged delusional trumptard may not care, the general public has a vested interest in "Private" schools.
     
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    Sure as long as they lose any tax exempt status they have and pay taxes on their endowments, I say go right ahead
     
  20. Gallant Knight

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    Ah yes the trumptard who has voted for a total of zero republicans in my entire life
     
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    I feel like they can do what they want with the wealthy as long as they don't defraud various institutions.I don't feel like this is a crazy stretch
     
  22. Lyrtch

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    GK is a dirtbag lefty he just doesn't know it.
     
  23. BudKilmer

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    a lefty whose side piece is the NYSE and he just can’t leave her


    <3 you GK
     
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  24. Stagger Lee

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    What about the people who live in awful school districts? Where I live, I have two options -- move or private school.
     
  25. Gallant Knight

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    I mean people can make their own decisions

    I went to what is considered not a good public high school with 90% minorities and everything worked out

    my wife went to private school kindergarten though college including an girls high school and she is v sheltered
     
  26. dblplay1212

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    These comfy or na?

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  27. Lyrtch

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    or...go to the public school
     
  28. Stagger Lee

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    Are you a parent?
     
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  29. Lyrtch

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    nimby breeders man
     
  30. BudKilmer

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    fuck off.....I’ve taught in what would be considered the ghetto and I’ve taught across from a country club inhabited by dozens of pro athletes. I’d send my kids to the “ghetto” school
     
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  31. AlternativeFactsRule

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    “I want to live someplace with low taxes.”

    “Why do these schools suck?”
     
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    Some of the dumbest people I’ve met went to public schools in the suburbs that are supposedly the best
     
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  33. Stagger Lee

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    Then do it. But there's no reason to disparage people for wanting to put their kids in the best position to succeed. They aren't the problem.

    I went to what were considered good public schools, but I would prefer to find something better than "good" for my boys. The schools in my district are completely unusable by every metric. They are essentially day cares. No chance I would send my boys to those schools. We plan to move to another district in the next couple years when my oldest gets to Kindergarten. But if that doesn't happen, we would definitely look private. No one in our neighborhood sends their kids to the public school, and for good reason.
     
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  35. duc15

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    get involved and make them better. Schools are dying for community involvement.
     
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  36. AlternativeFactsRule

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    You are the problem - sorry to break it to you.
     
  37. Stagger Lee

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    I agree with this. I'd love to see our neighborhood schools thrive. My wife is in the Big Sister program at the local school, and I've helped her with some events there.
     
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  38. Stagger Lee

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    How's that?
     
  39. duc15

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    this is my 4th year teaching and 6th in the school and we have the same meeting every year on how to get parents and community involved and every year we can’t.
     
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  40. ramszoolander

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    Parent involvement is literally THE issue. I send my kids to private school, but our local K-5 is very legit. It's mostly because all the parents know they have to work with other families to make it that way. The issue here (Birmingham) is that there isn't a magnet or something similar once you hit middle and high school in the city. It sucks.
     
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  41. BudKilmer

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    honestly, what is your trepidation?
     
  42. steamengine

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    Literally everyone in the loop.
     
  43. dblplay1212

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    School funding coming from property taxes is the problem.
     
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  44. dblplay1212

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    Raise your hand if you send your kid to the worst school in your area by choice.
     
  45. Stagger Lee

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    Poor eduction?
     
  46. THF

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    How many kids do you have?
     
  47. THF

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    How many other schools do you volunteer at in your free time, besides the one you work at?
     
  48. duc15

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    I volunteer my time to the one I work at, in the community I live in.
     
  49. THF

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    So you do it while working?

    You are sitting here telling Stagger how he should use his free time; so I am wondering how much of your free time do you devote towards volunteering at places “other than your work”.

    Or is this just another “do as I say not as I do” situation?
     
  50. duc15

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    I coach 3 sports, volunteering for 2 of them. A part of our youth sports advisory board in town. Help with a local winter food drive. While also helping with an after school tutoring program after my contracted hours. So yes I don’t do any of what I’m talking about.
     
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