Bad Police Thread - where calling the police is a gamble

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  1. dblplay1212

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    Jack Parkman will avoid this thread the day that comes out.
     
  2. Jack Parkman

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    I rarely read this thread, if I see something controversial I’ll post it in here and discuss it

    Actually now that I think about it my last post in here I think was the Miami cop I said I thought should be shitcanned for what he did
     
  3. SenatorClayDavis

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    I think the lesson of this story is that bodycams are great. And we should be deeply suspicious when bodycams are turned off prior to some questionable policing.
     
  4. dblplay1212

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    I'll start tagging you to get your opinion. Lets start with the two I posted just from last page. Thoughts?
     
  5. Jack Parkman

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    If a department has body cameras and they aren’t on they deserve any skepticism. Especially on any high priority calls
     
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  6. Jack Parkman

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    But you don’t want my opinion, you want an argument

    I know you enjoy it but I don’t enjoy arguing all day
     
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  7. dblplay1212

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    Nice deflection attempt.

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  8. Jack Parkman

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    Now my feelings are hurt
     
  9. dblplay1212

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    You know I love you. We've been fucking off on here for a decade together. I understand why its the case, but you're incredibly biased in these discussions. You want blood spilled to make up for some false claims against a cop but you won't even look at videos of cops verbally assaulting a kid on a porch or yanking a kid out of his car for "vegetation" in his window seal.

    I'll be the first to admit that the overwhelming majority of cops are great people and took the job for the right reason. You guys have an incredibly tough job and don't get compensated near what you should, at least early on. Some are complete pieces of shit that took the job for the power trip and use their powers to abuse other people though. It's beyond frustrating to see good cops turn the other way to those cops that terrorize innocent people but will quickly run to the side of a cop that's been accused of something. Do you not see an issue there? If you're going to say King should be held accountable for going at an innocent person, you should be able to do the same for cops that go at innocent people.
     
  10. Jack Parkman

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    What makes you believe this is how I feel? Believe I’ve shown on here I can be objectable RE: the last time I posted in this thread

    Am I going to look at things different than you on a lot of cases since I am one and you aren’t? Of course but when it’s a blatant overkill of use of force or the cop was flat out wrong I have no issue saying that

    I think king poured a bucket of gasoline on this fire here trying to ruin this guy because he believed he tried to ruin her. Doesn’t mean he is free of any repercussions which you think he should be
     
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  11. dblplay1212

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    I have no idea what the law is. As for what I feel, I feel a reporter should be able to report on something that he believes to be true. If he was just reporting her story as told to him, I'm ok with that. I think asking reporters to confirm every story is 100% true before they report it is asking too much. Sometimes that's just not possible. If he knowingly reported false things, then he should burn for it.
     
  12. Jack Parkman

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    If I was a reporter that had almost a million followers and accused you of holding a female hostage and raping her at your workplace while plastering your real name everywhere only for security footage to prove you innocent you would be fine with that? You wouldn’t even expect an apology like the attorney provided for ruining your good name?

    If I was that cop I’d be livid and want compensation, and no matter how you try to spin it so would you
     
  13. dblplay1212

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    Yea, I'd expect an apology from you but I'd understand you were doing your job. I'd be more upset with the person that fed you that bs story though. That's the person I'd go hard after.

    Cops falsely accuse people literally every single day. Should a civilian be compensated when that's the case?
     
  14. Jack Parkman

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    If a cop arrested a guy or girl for holding someone hostage and rape with zero evidence they shouldn’t be a cop, that’s why we investigate and you need to evidence to show a crime occurred

    For instance in Reuben fosters case when she has injuries and makes a claim I don’t fault the officers for that one bit and hope u wouldn’t either but I’m aware how jaded you are
     
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  15. dblplay1212

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    No I don't blame those cops at all. They were doing their job. Injuries or not, a man is getting arrested when a woman claims rape/beating 99% of the time. People get arrested when its he said she said all the time. That's why I don't blame King. He was doing his job. He reported what he was told. Again, asking reporters to prove something before they report on it severely limits what reporters can do. King's job is mainly to report on the injustices on brown people by cops and judicial system. What was he supposed to do here? Call the police dept and take their word for it? Come on, man. I completely understand why he reported her story. He got burned for it but I think he'll do the same thing next time.
     

  16. Did you watch the video? A lot of your questions are answered in the video.

    SFSTs are a standardized test, and you can locate the entire test and the clues online very easily.
     
  17. Jack Parkman

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    I understand why he did it, that’s where I think you aren’t understanding what I’m saying. I’m not arguing why he did it, I’m arguing that he should be held accountable when he trashed this guy and it ends up being false

    Tabloids get sued, and lose, often for making false stories about celebrities. The guys who’s pictures got plastered on the internet falsely saying they were the Boston marathon bombers sued and won, how is that different?
     
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  18. Popovio

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    C'mon man that is bullshit. Their job is to fucking confirm a story before publishing, I'm pretty sure that's the fundamental principle of journalism.
     
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    TC
     
  20. Popovio

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    Not to mention this type of sloppy reporting detracts from future claims of misconduct, he is hurting the people he is trying to help by not doing his fucking homework. In addition to dragging a man's name through the mud.
     
  21. dblplay1212

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    I said earlier that I don't know the law. If the marathon bomber guy won, this cops probably will too.

    That doesn't change my opinion. If a reporter is told something from what they deem a credible witness, I'm ok with them reporting it. That's typically how the whistle is blown on injustices. It's really hard to prove that stuff when so many are willing to cover it up. A lot of times it just has to start with a "he claimed this." For me it would depend on how King worded it. If he stated it as fact, then I'd hold him accountable. If he said "she claims this..." then I'm ok with that.
     
  22. Jack Parkman

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    If Peter King wrote a story today that Saban and Bama covered up rape/holding a female hostage....then it turned out he was given BS information I don’t think dbl’s reaction would be “‘meh...he was just doing his job and got lied to, not his fault”
     
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  23. dblplay1212

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    :facepalm:
     
  24. dblplay1212

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    I will once again point out how neat it is that a cop that voids this thread like the plague when cops are beating and killing civilians has no issue spending all day itt bc a lady told some lies on a cop.
     
  25. Jack Parkman

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    Nice deflection
     
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  26. dblplay1212

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    No deflection. I've responded to every post. I didn't avoid commenting on something like you did. Here we are an hour later and you still can't find the time to watch a couple videos and comment.
     
  27. theriner69er

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    I did. i just re-watched, and he never says: start when I say go, or whatever. So she has to try to figure out when he's done talking and when she is supposed to go, or if he will tell her to start. So her starting early is more a sign of shitty directions in this case than being drunk.

    he's telling her what to do. He says stand heel to toe (she stands heel to toe), imagine a straight line, and take one step heel to toe (she takes a step) he says oh no, don't start yet.

    Fuck that right in the ass if you mark someone off for that. it's NOT clear that he is saying: watch me for the entirety of what I'm going to tell and show you, THEN I'll tell you to begin. Poor instructions, thi guy needs more training, and his entire stop is suspect in my opinion. if he can't clearly articulate what he wants from her, the test is flawed, hi training is flawed, he is flawed, or all 3.

    he tells her to maintain that position at about 17:05. She starts walking at about 18:21. So you are legit supposed to stand there like that the entire time? That's part of the test? I almost think that's designed to fuck with your legs so that it makes it tougher to walk the line.

    it looks like he does show her the turn. I'm still curious how that looks.

    But ultimately, the test is designed so that everyone can fail it, or at least makes enough of a mistake that they fail. I wonder how many people are given a field sobriety test and pass it and are allowed to drive home?

    I found this: According to DUI DWI Foundation, the horizontal gaze nystagmus test has 77 percent accuracy. The walk-and-turn test is accurate 68 percent of the time and the one-leg stand test is the least accurate at 65 percent.

    ehhh....
     
  28. Jack Parkman

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    This is today’s news story, i am commenting on it. I’ve seen multiple people respond to you but you’ve ignored it. I really don’t know why u want me to go back and watch videos from weeks ago to argue with u about

    Let’s just not waste each others time and pretend I watched every video and the officer is guilty, should be arrested and burn in hell.

    Or were you hoping I’d fully side with them so you had someone to argue with?
     
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  29. dblplay1212

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    This was posted today and you were literally the next post itt.

    White cop yanks a black kid out of car for "vegetation in window seal" - gloss over

    Woman falsely accuses cop - you have all day

    Weird how that works. I'm just asking you to be as vigilant of all innocent people, not just cops.
     
  30. Jack Parkman

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    Guilty, fire him, put him in prison
     
  31. dblplay1212

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    :facepalm:

    You won't even discuss it when it's an innocent kid instead of an innocent cop.
     
  32. Jack Parkman

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    From your cliff notes what is there to discuss

    Again it’s like you are hoping someone has an opposing viewpoint to argue with
     
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  33. dblplay1212

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    No I'd love for you to say you actually watched the video and then hear your thoughts.

    I must say that I'm not overly surprised that you have zero interest in commenting on a bad cop. That's a common theme for cops. Turn the other way and act like it didn't happen. That's the biggest issue we have in police depts today. If police depts would police themselves so many of the huge issues we have wouldn't be near as severe as they are today. Instead good cops look the other way bc they don't want to be that guy in the dept.

    But you have all day to rally around a cop that had his name slandered. Neat.
     
  34. dblplay1212

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    Jack Parkman leaving the office so we'll have to pick this up tomorrow. <3 you. Stay safe out there.
     
  35. Jack Parkman

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    Again...keep skipping over the fact that the last time I posted ITT before today was condemning a cop for what he did and saying he should be fired
     
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  36. miles

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    Shaun King 100% should apologize to that officer. That's the one thing I'll say I don't like about what he does. Never really takes ownership when he fucks up and does stuff like this where he now turns it around and says he and other believers are the victim.

    No. The cop is.
     
  37. miles

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    #5737 miles, May 23, 2018
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  39. Jack Parkman

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    Yeah own up to it like that attorney did

    I’m glad someone can agree..
     
  40. Jack Parkman

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    Think they owe him an apology

    I’m glad you decided to calm down and agree with my stance which was repeated by my friend


     
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  41. 941Gator

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    Reporting on a verified accusation is different than jumping to a conclusion. Among a big can of worms in regards to journalistic privilege. Not arguing with you.

    Side note fwiw:

    In the context of defamationactions (libel and slander) as well as invasion of privacy, a public figure cannot succeed in a lawsuit on incorrect harmful statements in the United States unless there is proof that the writer or publisher acted with actual malice by knowing the falsity or by reckless disregard.
     
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  42. Mister Me Too

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    I wish this kind of outraged existed when a false police report is filed. What King did is wrong and your outrage is warranted but you guys turn a blind eye when a police officer falsifies or exaggerates an incident in a police report, and a false police report > a tweet.
     
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    Here’s the actual video:

     
  44. 941Gator

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    You, and NolenBlue, have absolutely been impartial and fair in all discussions. All Tmb cops seem legit.

    Dbl knows that.
     
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    Fire them all, charge the cops who tased and grabbed him.
     
  46. 941Gator

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    confirm as in investigate an accusation? Is that the standard?

    Biased police file a complaint and send it to a lawyer to carry out - news publishes with no fact check
    Biased victim files a complaint and sends it to a lawyer to carry out - news publishes with no fact check
     
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  47. Jack Parkman

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    Today he chose to forget
     
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  48. dblplay1212

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    Not at all. You just dont get on a soapbox when it's the cop that does wrong. Today you did bc a guy tweeted out what he was told and it turned out to be a lie.

    You're one of the good guys. I know that. Just wish the good cops would be more critical of the bad ones, in general. The quickest fix we have is for the good cops to push the bad ones out so instead of turning the other way.
     
  49. 941Gator

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    Q: Have you made more arrest as compared to crimes you have commited as an adult? How do those 2 numbers match up, officer?
     
  50. Jack Parkman

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    why would I come in here and argue with people who’s minds won’t be changed no matter what I say? That would be exhausting. It’s amazing to me really that you can’t grasp why an officer wouldn’t want to participate daily in a thread titled “bad police thread-where calling the police is a gamble”

    I believe I’ve been very fair in my criticisms in the past as 941 has also noticed but yet u got upset because I didn’t comment on a video posted sometime in here like I’m required to voice my opinion to every police video

    I’ve posted multiple videos ITT that you have ignored but I’m not trying to call you out on it
     
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