Bad Police Thread - where calling the police is a gamble

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  1. dblplay1212

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    Holy fuck you can be ignorant .

    Follow along:

    - BLM opposes cops doing fucked up stuff
    - While not as often as they do to black, cops do fucked up stuff to whites too
    - Therefore, it would make sense for whites to support BLM for pointing out cops doing fucked up stuff

    Why can't you grasp that?
     
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  2. theriner69er

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    I'ts not that I don't grasp it, it's that I disagree. The name black lives matter kind of sets it up as a racially defined movement. Yes, 100%, black people have been abused by cops, and that's the point of BLM, to call attention to black people being abused by cops. Read that again. The point of BLM is to end police violence against......black people.

    As a very small subset, yea, BLM is opposed to cops doing bad things, to anyone, in general. But when the name is black lives matter, very clearly the main focus is on black lives. No???

    It's not that I don't "support" BLM. It's that this particular incident is not a very good example of what BLM is fighting. In the same way that this cop's actions are not a great example of institutionalized sexism and female oppression.
     
  3. Mister Me Too

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    I’m really concerned about you,
     
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  4. Mister Me Too

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    :gross:
     
  5. dblplay1212

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    Yep, you're ignorant. Oh well, I tried.
     
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  6. Popovio

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    I don't know how the Costco shooter was going to get convicted of anything, when he was allowed leave the scene and come back the next morning to review the security footage BEFORE giving his official statement of events to the police. Shit was rigged from the get go. Maybe the 32 year old guy was a threat, but even then, he shot two other innocent people in the back and fired 10 shots, how are there no repercussions?
     
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  7. dblplay1212

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    Shooting everyone in the general vicinity is apparently the proper response to getting hit/slapped on the back of the head in Costco.
     
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  8. theriner69er

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    You understand that I'm not saying this is the case, THEY are. BLM is saying it. It's in their mission statement. You get that, right??

    Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

    In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

    Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.
     
  9. theriner69er

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    I like that you are trying to convince me that Black Lives Matter REALLY means ALL lives mater. That's an amazing angle to take here.
     
  10. miles

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    Amber Guyger, who killed 26 YO Botham Jean in his own apartment after claiming she mistook it for her apartment, is on the stand today. The defense is claiming she was distracted that night because she was texting her married patrol partner. (Who she was fucking) It's hard to imagine she straight up murdered him in cold blood, but the level of complete and utter ineptitude by her that night is almost equally difficult to believe.

    -The layout of their apartments don't look similar
    -He had a big red doormat by his door and she didn't.
    -She didn't perform CPR or use the equipment she had with her to aid a man who was heavily bleeding out.
    -Apparently she didn't give any commands or notice that she was a cop to Botham.

    Holy shit how do some of these people become cops
     
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  11. dblplay1212

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    Most troubling part.
     
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  12. Daniel Ocean

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    I mean he’s got a point. Now imagine if something was called white entertainment tv or we had historically white colleges and universities. Think about the uproar we’d have.
     
  13. theriner69er

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    This is exactly my point!
     
  14. dblplay1212

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    That's Fox News and most colleges.
     
  15. dblplay1212

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    Holy shit.

    :facepalm:
     
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  16. theriner69er

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    ha ha ha ha ha ha

    jesus christ. You literally just made me laugh out loud
     
  17. Popovio

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    I guess we shouldn't support BLM because they aren't inclusive enough. What a bunch of racists amirite?

    At the end of the day, they are the most high profile group calling police out on their bullshit, and that's what I care about. I could give a fuck if a historically marginalized group didn't have inclusivity at the top of their priorities so they didn't hurt riner's feelings.

    Please point me to another group doing the same thing (that isn't the ACLU) that I should support instead
     
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  18. theriner69er

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    I'm not entirely sure BLM would agree with people lumping their movement and what they stand for and fight against in with a white cop fucking over a bunch of white people. I'm not saying they have to, they can do whatever they want, fight against police violence against people of color, cool, I'm with them, that's awful.

    But we can't act like that then applies to white cops planting evidence against white people. And me saying that doesn't mean BLM isn't inclusive enough or that I am against BLM or whatever else. It means that's not what they do, it's not why they exists, it's not what they focus on or care about as a movement.

    And why wouldn't you support he ACLU, not instead of BLM, but in addition to? This isn't a zero sum game. Support them all. It might be cool, powerful, and effective if everyone got together and united against police violence.
     
  19. Popovio

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    I already support the ACLU, I was taking them off the list of potential groups someone could point me to.
     
  20. theriner69er

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    ah, ok. To be clear, I am not saying not to support BLM. Pushing back against racist police violence is a noble, unfortunately necessary cause. I'm not saying BLM is racist, or that they are not inclusive enough. But they are what they are.

    I'm sure most people in BLM are against animal cruelty, but that's just not what BLM is about. Pointing that out is not an indictment on BLM for supporting animal cruelty, or for not doing enough to fight cruelty to animals. The movement is simply not focused on animal cruelty. Or white cops abusing white people.
     
  21. Anison

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  22. Mister Me Too

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    It’s a great thing that you’re incapable of being shamed because if you were would have to delete this account, this is really embarrassing for you.
     
  23. Mister Me Too

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    [​IMG]

    Here’s BLM marching for Justine Damond, Australian woman killed by the police
     
  24. dblplay1212

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    He gave two big nods of agreement as he's being calling out for false arrest and lying on a police report. :facepalm:
     
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  25. Mister Me Too

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    :awshucks:
     
  26. 941Gator

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    Gelin’s comments referred to his 2015 arrest for resisting without violence.

    According to the arrest report, a fight between two men in front of a Salvation Army location left one man bleeding. Gelin, who was a witness, began recording the BSO response.

    Gallardo said he asked Gelin “to move back, that this a crime scene. He advised he was recording the incident, and that he did not have to move.”

    “I advised him he could continue to record, but that he would have to move back behind the bushes to the east side to provide space for when rescue comes,” Gallardo said in the report. “He failed to comply with my commands to move from the area … While attempting to handcuff the subject, he pulled his hands away from me and put his phone in his pocket.”
     
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  28. dblplay1212

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    This is currently being discussed itt.
     
  29. Can I Spliff it

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  31. Mister Me Too

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  32. dblplay1212

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    This comment still infuriates me. He had a fucking choice. 99% of people would have made a different one.

    “My client was assaulted and attacked, and what he did was excusable and reasonable under the law,” Salzman said. “It is a terrible tragedy. We have two sets of parents trying to protect their child. Sal had no choice but to use deadly force to protect his young son and himself from assault.”
     
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  33. Mix

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    Just more state sanctioned murder.
     
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  34. mc415

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    Since there won’t be justice thru the legal system
    I hope karma gets this piece of shit........yeah when I go to Costco and someone bumps me my first reaction is to let my gat loose with 10 rounds inside a grocery store ? What sane person does that and this motherfucker is supposed to protect and serve the public?
     
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  35. MORBO!

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    Can you guys believe the leukemia and lymphoma society? Those assholes apparently don’t give any fucks about people dying from breast cancer or colon cancer. Some shit, man...
     
  36. Beeds07

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    One person overslept for jury duty.
    One person used their money and influence to bribe their child into college.

    They got the same sentence.
    Guess the color of each...

     
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  37. Popovio

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    Why does that tweet say "video shows him seated and 20 feet away" when it does nothing of the sort? Is there another video?All I've seen is the grainy Costco tape from 500 feet away, can't even see the shooter.
     
  38. Popovio

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  40. dblplay1212

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  41. OhReally

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    I've always scoffed at this line of thinking. Heard it all my life, from family and friends but it makes no fucking sense.

    Any time minorities try to take a stand against racism we find a way to flip the narrative. From your B.E.T. line, to Kapernick hates police, to BLM is the black version of the KKK, or any racist line ending in Chicago.

    It's like many people have issues with minorities fighting to be equal and will come up with any excuse to rationalize their sentiments.
     
  42. MORBO!

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    It’s never the “right time” or the “right way” for minorities to fight for equal rights. If it were up to their oppressors, they would just quietly exist and wait for people to (hopefully) gradually extend minorities their full civil rights.
     
  43. Mister Me Too

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    The trickledown approach to civil rights
     
  44. theriner69er

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    My response was extremely sarcastic. That was not my point, at all.

    Minorities and non-minorities should take a stand against racism. Always. But it should always be against racism, with some measure of proof of racism beyond a gut feel or suspicion.
     
  45. 941Gator

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    None of which have to do with the police just for clarification.
     
  46. Popovio

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    True, but I think this thread has room for shitty DAs and judges as well.
     
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  47. Mister Me Too

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    Minorities you’re allowed to be against racism but only if racist whites agree that racism has occurred.

    - theriner69er
     
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  48. 941Gator

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    there is always room on tmb for shitty DA talk :gfa: but a lot of it gets posted in criminal thread.
     
  49. shawnoc

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  50. dblplay1212

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