you are not even trying anymore. Everyone should be against racism where actual racism has occurred. How this point is even debatable illustrates the insanity of your position. You're an awful troll.
You’re arguing as though you’re the one who gets to decide when and where “actual racism has occurred” yet are calling me a troll, are you serious?
Nowhere have I said I'd be the arbiter of that. That's you adding your commentary, and telling me what I'm saying, yet again. Let me ask, what do you think the standard for establishing racism should be? A white cop shoots an unarmed black man...is that racism? White female cop enters a black man's home and shoots him while he eats cereal. Racism?
So you want me to create a racism chart? The fact that you post that type of shit is what makes you come across as though you believe you’re the one who decides what’s racist. But let’s go over one of your examples: Did she just walk in his apartment and shoot him? That’s really all that we know about her? So the racist text messages, should be ignored? Why are you so quick to ignore blatant racist shit, is it because you want to discredit the thought of an event being racist?
I'm simply asking you if those cases are examples of racism. You don't need a long, drawn-out answer, just tell me if a white cop shooting an unarmed black man is an example of racism.
Maybe, maybe not. Now answer this, someone making the case that blacks and Hispanics should be stopped more often than white people because blacks and Hispanics look like gang members, racist or not?
what, you need more information, you'd like to see proof or racism before you call something racist??? What a crazy idea! now apply that to how you react to the next story before you call everything racist as your baseline position. The way that is worded, it's racist. If someone were to say they were specifically targeting street gangs because they are known to be violent, involved in drug trade, prostitution, human trafficking, and a variety of other crimes, and that resulted in a disproportionate number of gang members of suspected gang members being stopped, that would not be racist. That policy would also target a disproportionate number of men as compared to women. Would that policy also be sexist? So, for example, if a police force wanted to target the Hell's Angels, they would find key things that would distinguish that group of people from non-Hell's Angels. Things like motorcycles (though not everyone on a motorcycle is a Hell's Angel), specific biker gear (though not everyone wearing biker gear is a Hell's Angel), specific tattoos (though not everyone with tattoos is a Hell's Angel), white men (though not all white men are Hell's Angels). Of course none of that would make the police sexist for targeting men, racist for targeting whites, or anti-bikers for targeting people who ride motorcycles. However, a disingenuous person could easily twist that policy into something that is sexist, racist, and disproportionately targeting people who ride motorcycles.
You expect me to read this? How many times have I told you condense your rambling, especially when you were asked a yes or no question.
Glad we agree that you posted some racist shit, now that you’re acknowledging that it was racist you should stop posting racist shit.
not everything can be whittled down to your 3rd grade reading level. In the time you took to write your complaint you could have read it. But those were your words. I posted something, you interpreted and posted your version, then called me a racist for posting the racist shit you posted. Odd.
Right, I don't. You are taking what I'm posting, re-wording it so it's racist, then telling me to stop posting racist shit. Is a policy that targets the Hell's Angel racist because it would target primarily whites? Part 2, would it be sexist because it would target primarily men?
That’s a cute scenario and relevant if whites were arrested at a higher rate then anyone else. But let’s play out your scenario, no targeting hell’s angels would not be racist and targeting crips and bloods is not racist. The problem is that when it comes to blacks and Hispanics they are targeting crips, bloods, lawyers, doctors and any other profession under the sun. And according to you it’s acceptable that this is occurring because blacks and Hispanics look like gang members, dress it up however you like, come up with whatever little scenario to make white men the real target, but that’s still racist.
I don't believe and never said this. Again, this is you interpreting what I'm saying and re-writing it in a racist way, then calling me racist. Blacks and Hispanics who display characteristics of crips or bloods look like gang members. White guys who display characteristics of Hell's Angels look like gang members and so on. The leap to ALL blacks and Hispanics look like gang members is not anything I believe or I've said, no matter how many times you repeat it. I didn't make white men the "real target". That's you adding more bullshit to justify your position.
You stated that the discrepancy in police interactions between blacks/Hispanics vs white is justified because blacks are trying to stop gang activity, which whether you want to believe it or not is racist. I know you don’t see it as racist because you’re a racist, do something about it if you don’t want to be called a racist.
I am doing something, I'm educating the moron calling me racist by re-writing what I've said and calling that revision racist, then attributing it to me. So if the police targeted the Hell's Angels, would you expect the overall number of whites the police stopped to increase, decrease, or remain the same?
You’re as racist and I’m not the only one to have told you that, so why am I the only “moron” who should be educated, it’s because again, you’re a racist and no way will you let an uppity “moron” tell you that, right? You racist piece of shit. And fuck off with your what if the white men was the target bullshit, really is they’re not, blacks and Hispanics are because racist trash like you want it that way.
The way this narrative that I'm racist plays out is exactly what we've seen here. I say things you disagree with, you interpret them as racist, then scream about how racist I am, and everyone gives you likes. See, everyone thinks you are racist!! yea yea yea.... I'll start with you, and work my way through the rest. I hope you are learning something here. You get super triggered whenever I use white people as an example, even if it's "bad" white people being targeted by police, like biker gangs. What if a gang of Pacific Islanders were targeted by the police as a group they want to crack down on because they are criminals and are bad for society? Would you expect the number of Pacific Islanders stopped by police to increase, decrease, or remain the same??
Seriously, “say things you disagree with”? You justified blacks and Hispanics being pulled over more often because cops are looking for gang members, that’s not something I disagree with that is something that is ridiculously racist. But keep on playing the racist playbook and pretending you’re not a racist piece of shit. It’s not a matter of people who like my posts, there are people who have correctly straight up told you you are a racist, but I’m the only one who’s a “moron”, next time just go ahead and call me a nigger, spic or sand nigger, don’t use your dog whistle bullshit. I don’t give a fuck whether you use white, Asian or Pacific Islander, stop with your nonsense hypotheticals to deflect from the reality which is all you’re trying to do. And just to make sure I’m not incorrectly changing your argument, your last paragraph basically states, that when a black lawyer gets pulled over it’s justified because that black person looks like someone who could be a criminal and bad for society?
Fine, I'll play.... See, you are doing it here! Thank you for illustrating. Previously you claimed that I said: Which I never said. Now you are changing it a bit because I'm guessing you are tired of being called out for lying. You are getting closer though. Keep trying. Oh no, sweetie, please understand, you are not THE moron. You are A moron. I don't use any of those words, so I'm not going to call you any of that. Sorry to disappoint you. These are not hypotheticals. Police have targeted white biker gangs in the past. When they did, do you think the number of white people stopped by cops increased, decreased, or stayed the same? That you refused to answer that really simple question says a lot. HA HA HA just to make sure I understand you....I will distort your argument into something racist then claim you are racist. LOL what in the fuck? No. NO. NOOOOO. That's not what I said and that's not what the last paragraph "basically states". Jesus you really are a moron.
Yea, you'v gone off the rails. Take a little break and relax. Stop using those words, they are hurtful and offensive.
I know those words are hurtful and offensive, I’ve had those hurled at me from people like you, that’s why I will call you out for your dogwhistle bullshit to mask what you really want to say
It's kind of racist to lump me in with other white people who have said awful things to you. I've never used those words. I'm sorry if that fact disappoints you, but it does not change the fact. There is no mask. I'm syign what I really want to say. See how you are now twisting it? Now when I call you the moron you are, what I really want to say is.... Nope. What I really want to say is I think you are a moron. That's it. The end. Stop race-baiting.
Here we go, the white men is the real victim and calling out your racism is the real racism. I don’t care if I get banned from a place with racist trash like you.
If a white person is the victim, then that's what they are. If a black person is the victim, then that's what they are. There is no "real" victim. If you are a race-baiting moron, then that's what you are. Why don't you say what you really want to say about me. Go ahead, let it out. Then ban yourself. Just stop. You look foolish and racist. You sound like you need to get some help, honestly.
What I really want to say about you, you’re a racist piece of shit, it’s the same shit I and other have said about you for a long time, because the truth is you’re a racist piece of shit.
Again, we are going in circles. You keep making shit up, attributing it to me, then calling me racist. It's really an awful thing to do. Your use of racial slurs in this thread is offensive, and something you should probably stop doing. If I were a racist, if I were a white supremecist or whatever you think I am, I'd have no problem calling you all kinds of awful racist names. But I'm not, I don't feel that way about you, or anyone, I don't use those words, and that's not who I am. I realize that you can't possibly comprehend that, but it's the truth.
So the other people who call you out for being a racist piece of shit are wrong as well, everyone is wrong except for the racist asshole? You’re being called a racist because you’re a racist, if you don’t want to be called a racist then stop being a racist.
That's a bit of a loaded question, as the "racist asshole" can't be wrong about being a racist asshole. However, people could be wrong and that guy could not be racist. Do you see how easy it was for you to be wrong about me being racist? As I said, you know for sure you are not racist, and you identify things you think are clearly racist. If someone disagrees with you, then, in your mind, that clearly indicates that they are racist. Not that you could be wrong and the incident is not actually racist, but that they are racist because they disagree. I've never started being racist. Stop race-baiting and making shit up.
That’s a lot of words to say absolutely nothing, but just so we’re clear there is no doubt that you’re a racist and if you don’t like being called a racist I suggest you stop being a racist.
Yes, I get it, you’re in denial, but don’t be surprised when people continue to call you a racist because as long as you refuse to acknowledge that you are it won’t ever get better.
no, that's a man walking in circles. Like we are with this conversation. I've shown you how you A) Take what I say, make it racist, then claim I said it B) Claim that you know what I "really" want to say, then say horribly racist words and attribute them to me C) Refuse to answer questions that would very simply highlight the flaws in your claims D) Continue to talk in circles. If you have nothing more to add, I'm done. Stop race-baiting. Stop lying. Stop using racist language.
Ok, racist trash, look up the term color blind racism, at best that’s what applies to you, but my guess is that you’re just a plain old school racist. Stop racist baiting? You have tried to justify discrepancies in blacks and Hispanics being pull over by cops, and have defended stop and frisk, that’s not race baiting (which is a standard white suprematist term) that’s you being a racist and called out on it.
I figured because racist trash like you have no interest in educating yourself and addressing your racist beliefs. Just remember if you stop being a racist, people will stop calling you a racist.
That's demonstrably false, as I am not a racist and you keep repeating that I am. I think if the police target the Hell's Angels, it stands to reason that they are going to pull over more white people on motorcycles wearing biker gear with tattoos. There will be more white men pulled over after the policy is put in place, not because the target is white men, but because the massive majority of Hell's Angels are white men. You take that and make the insane leap to: you think all white people look like Hell's Angels. ummm what?? Now replace "Hell's Angels" with "Bloods and Crips", and replace "white" with "black", and you turn it into: you think black people look like bloods and crips. I don't think that. I don't think all black people look like gang members or all white people look like Hell's Angels. I don't think it's justified to pull over black lawyers because crips and bloods are black gangs. I make non-racist claims, like those, that you process, put racist spins on, attribute to me, then call me racist. You're fucking insane. It's the nonsensical ramblings of a moron.
So when you see such a massive discrepancy, do you think that discrepancy exists because they are actually targeting crips and bloods? Also do you think it’s a coincidence that the majority of “gangs” are black? Why is it that crips and bloods are considered a gang but militias are not? Why is the mafia, Russian mob and other organized crimes organizations not considered gangs? If you even bothered reading the studies and articles people have posted it would be a different story but you continuously ignore them and continue posting the same racist nonsense, so you may not see yourself as racist but you are.
It's semantics. gangs, organized crime, biker gangs, mob, militias. Who cares? All of those groups have specific attributes associated with them, that indicate their association to each group. If you are targeting a specific group, you would use those attributes to identify them. It would make zero sense to pull over black people if you are targeting Russian mobsters or Asian women if you are targeting biker gangs. Surely I don't have to explain this to you. When they cracked down on organized crime, they disproportionately targeted Italians who interacted with specific people, who were involved in drug trade and illegal gambling, often in New York's garment and construction industries. Was that racist?
It’s semantics? No it’s not semantics. Who cares? Black people and Hispanics people care because it’s based on these numbers that they then design and pass legislation to allow stop and frisk. So it’s not semantics that no one cares about, it’s a specific design in the system that provides cover for racist policies, but I know you don’t care, because it doesn’t affect you. Do you not see the difference in your example vs stop and frisk and the other policies that target blacks? You actually stated in your post why it’s not racist when they targeted the mob, they targeted people who associated with the mob, gamblers, book runners and other who have indirect interactions with the mob, stop and frisk is randomly pulling people over to search them. But according to you this is acceptable because the majority of gang members are black and Hispanics, ignoring the fact that those numbers are skewed because of what they choose and don’t choose to call a gang. Do you honestly not see a difference?