yea that doesn't seem too crazy. The cop retreated quite a bit before he unloaded. open and shut case.
Yeah but I'm sure the only reason that cop didn't immediately speak up was because of his "mental state"...after shooting an unarmed man trying to climb out of an overturned vehicle
Still can't conceive how there isn't a criminal charge for shooting an unarmed man who posed no threat at any time then lying about it.
Oh my god you are so wrong. If you've ever been pulled over at night you've likely been contacted by a cop with their gun out. What fucking fantasy land are you living in where Terrence Cody is better than suh and a cop having an upholstered gun means they want to shoot someone.
I've been pulled over several times at night and not once did a cop approach my car with his gun out. Wtf world do you live in that a cop should perceive every situation as a threat bc it's dark out? Cops are hired to protect and serve, not be petrified of a situation bc it's dark. The cop should have been thinking "how can I help this guy that just flipped his car" not "oh fuck it's dark this guy that just flipped his car 3 times might jump out and shoot me, let's shoot him first and then lie about it." And I never said Cody was better than Suh.
Yes you did say that, and then tried to walk it back so quit your b.s. Guns aren't run by magnets Dbl, they don't have to be pointed at someone once they're out of the holster
It happened last year and was reported that the perp shot the cop, when it was the other cop that did. THe video just came out, apparently: http://ktla.com/2015/12/19/family-s...-in-fatal-2014-shooting-of-man-in-long-beach/ http://www.ocweekly.com/news/new-vi...a-county-sheriff-deputy-in-long-beach-6844726
Cop was apparently shot by his partners gun. No gun was found on the guy and the family is suing the police department.
You probably didn't know the cop had his gun out. Once he saw you and felt comfortable he would holster it and you'd be none the wiser.
So..... Cops have a guy on the ground One cop shoots the other cop Shot cop plants a gun Shot cop then kills (executes) the person who did not shoot him
This guy apparently died last night. Wonder when the cop will be charged with murder, conspiracy, etc.
I saw this the other day. I know the cop had been shot, but it just seems like if you are pushing the muzzle of your gun against a guys back and shooting 3 times you are doing something wrong. I know everyone always says - you should have used a taser! - but I'm not sure there is a better case for using a taser. By the way - the cop knew he shot the other cop right??? I mean there was 1 gunshot, and he had to know it was his gun. Shouldn't he have said - hey Bill, my gun went off, that might have been my shot that hit you ???? Also not sure what the 2nd shot was about, that cop seemed to have no control at all over the gun he had in his hand. The way he was wrestling with the guy with a gun in his hand, and the gun keep firing, could not possibly be proper protocol, right?
This happened a while back, girl just got paid $875,000 http://abc13.com/news/chicago-subur...-to-settle-claims-of-excessive-force/1129793/
taser' aren't ideal for being point blank. You need space for the probes to be a decent ways away from each other to lock the guy up. There are videos on YouTube of people fighting through stuns when the probes are deployed point blank.
No indictments in Sandra Bland case http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/us/sa...no-indictments0349AMStoryLink&linkId=19779184
I'm guessing people still believe the cops killed her in her cell and then made it look like a suicide.
This shit here is what pisses me off worse than a cop who makes a split second decision in the field and makes a horrible mistake. This douchebag has all the power and control in the jail and regardless of what she said or did outside the cell, there was no reason to hurl her back into her cell like that.
Well he didn't get any jail time but he did lose his pension, plead guilty to a felony, and got 2 years of probation. Just lucky there was a camera there. Whenever I see things like this all I can think of is how many times has this happened and it was just the victims word against a bunch of cops.
Why don't cops lynch that fucking cop? it makes cops look soooooo fucking bad. I know the blue line and all that, but good cops have to HATE this shit. Is the pressure so great from the inside that cops who do things like this, that are so obviously abusive, have to be protected? Are there so few good cops that they are massively outnumbers by the pussies that do this kind of thing? it's insanity. Ruin that fucking cops life and make it public knowledge that his life is ruined forever.
No, because the incidents are so rare. Despite the recent climate of media coverage and internet lawyer most of these "excessive force!" and "Just shoot the guys hand" videos are bunk. This one is bad, but they aren't frequent enough to cause the seismic activity you are wondering about.
what's bad about this video is the cop unnecessarily put himself at much greater risk of getting hurt or dying than he ever should have, His "restraint" almost got him killed. It's easy to monday morning QB, but the moment that guy makes the motion towards the officer the officer should've shot. By giving ground he lost his balance and fell...and unless he is 20 year old charles woodson he isn't back pedaling faster than any normal person can run forward.
Even more reason for good cops to be outraged and not want this sort of thing to go unpunished. the 98% of good cops should want that 2% that is making headlines for being so bad out ASAP. But that rarely happens, right?? just scroll up - the Michael Hart video - at any point did the other cops even consider that the cop had abused that woman? The 2 cops wrestling with the guy, and the cop shoots the other cop - are those 2 bad cops or just 1? Was there any backlash from the good cops against that bad cop? The Paradise DUI shooting, those cops are not coming out against that idiot, they are calling it an accident and brushing it under the rug. For every very rare 1 bad cop there seem to be an army of bad cops willing to defend them. Why is that?? If this is so rare, if it's a bad apple, why aren't the good apples EAGER to remove the bad ones?
Not trying to be a smartass, but I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for from rank and file officers with respect to "coming out." Go to the media?
Honestly report what they saw and did would be a good start. I am not sure what the exact protocol is, but as cops they are obligated to report illegal activity, aren't they?? If they witness another cop abusing, shooting, killing an innocent person, aren't they required to report that? Or even make an arrest on the officer? Think about whatever job you do. If you witness a coworker doing something that makes you look bad, that you know is wrong, against company policy, illegal, and immoral, what do you do? And we are not talking about taking a pen home, like....stealing money from a company fund raiser, something with some weight to it. You wouldn't just ignore that and let it go. You'd go to that person, or to your boss, or above your boss, wouldn't you? Not necessarily call the local news station, but do something to get rid of bad people. Right? Maybe I'm just not seeing it, maybe the cops that see this shit happen do report it, maybe the there are records of that kind of thing that never get made public. I kinda doubt it though. I think those cops would be singled out as snitches, as anti-cop, as bad cops themselves. That's the impression I get in general, and from the cops on this board.
I am a police officer, actually. FWIW, a large number of complaints against officers are from other officers, at least in my department. Is that the norm? No idea, and I guess which is the case is just that, guessing. I, personally, have no idea how many complaints are currently pending. I do know that they are often complete crap. A buddy of mine was complained on for going five miles over and texting while driving. For one, my buddy admitted he probably was going five miles over (he actually got complained for going the speed limit by the way). Secondly, he proved he wasn't texting through his text records. I was complained on for suggesting to a clerk that the gas station owner go from pay after, to pre-pay, to stop people from stealing gas (seriously, that's all). Keep in mind, that both offenses are, techinically, fireable offenses as they are open recommendation up to termination. As a line officer does that skew my perception? Yes it does, and those aren't even the most absurd complaints and certainly not the most legitimate. I don't just turn off my "being bad" receptors. Am I going to ostracize somebody because someone says he did "X" if I didn't personally witness it? No, frankly, think of the boy who cryed wolf. There are many of those individuals. and they complain more than anyone. Has my department had legitimate issues? Of course, another officer turned in one for excessive force just a few months ago The other officer resigned before he could be fired. FWIW, the suspect never complanied. Does that matter? No, and neither did it to that officer. My department, as all others, has a chain of command very similar to the military. Police is paramilitary of course. Outside the truly egregious, the issue is usually very grey in practical application. If someone has an issue as to a way something was handled, it is to go through the chain of command. Otherwise it is insubordination. We only have to go on what we know, which may, or may not, be much different than the facts the public is going off of. That answer may not be very satisfying but you have no idea what our job really entails. I don't mean that as insult, but how we are treated on a daily basis, what we put up through, is a complete shock to most people. That's not some "whoa is me" moment. Just similar to individuals who've been in combat/violent confrontation telling us how to do our job. You haven't, we have, therefore we're going to naturally be defensive to people who are critical. We get lied to constantly, we're not just going to take people's word for it. And no, we don't get to see the video first.
werent those incidents you are referring to investigated? During those investigations in sure they took statements from everyone including any officers on scene. I don't know what you are looking from the "good ones" besides providing their statements. To imply the officers (who didn't pull the trigger) weren't truthful is a stretch. This isn't CSI Miami or NYPD Blue.
werent those incidents you are referring to investigated? During those investigations in sure they took statements from everyone including any officers on scene. I don't know what you are looking from the "good ones" besides providing their statements. To imply the officers (who didn't pull the trigger) weren't truthful is a stretch. This isn't CSI Miami or NYPD Blue. Once it goes into the investigation route the beat officers won't have any further role in it so I don't know why you keep clamoring for them to do more.
Did he shoot to stop the threat? Absolutely. Who do you think he believed shot him and had just fired another shot? The man they were attempting to arrest. His partner fucked him, that much is pretty clear.
Even if the suspect did shoot him from such close quarters wouldn't the best recourse be to subdue/smash his hands. With the time it takes to draw and fire the weapon the suspect can get more shots off. Even after the cop fires he hasn't disarmed the suspect.