Bad Police Thread - where calling the police is a gamble

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  1. Frank Martin

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    He's definitely going to get life. I'm surprised he hasn't taken a plea.
     
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  3. Frank Martin

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    At this point I don't even know why a cop would try to arrest someone resisting.
     
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  5. Popovio

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    tl;dr: Cop arrests a mom (and her two daughters) who called 911 on some guy that choked her 7 year old son because he threw a piece of paper on the ground.


    FORT WORTH, Texas
    - Activists are planning to rally Thursday evening because of a video that shows a Fort Worth officer arresting a woman who called him for help.

    The video was posted on Facebook Wednesday evening. It shows a woman named Jacqueline Craig explaining to an officer that she called police because a man had tried to choke her young son for littering.

    “My son is 7 years old. You don’t have the right to grab him, choke him for no paper that he threw. What you should have done because we have been living here for years… you could have came to me. You don’t put your hands on my son,” Craig tells the officer.

    “Why don’t you teach your son not to litter?” the officer replies.

    “He can’t prove to me that my son littered. But it doesn’t matter if he did or didn’t. He didn’t have to put his hands on him,” Craig says.

    “Why not?” the officer asks.

    The confrontation escalates. Craig gets upset about the officer questioning her ability to raise her children and the officer threatens to arrest her for yelling at him.

    Craig’s daughter steps between them to push her mother away and that’s when the officer pulls out his stun gun, takes Craig to the ground and handcuffs her.

     
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  6. dblplay1212

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    Thread title applies to this one. Fucking terrible. I mean what the fuck?
     
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    He's dumb as hell
     
  8. OopsPowSurprise

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    That video is shameful, kid gets assaulted and you arrest the mom

    And we wonder why black communities don't rely on the police
     
  9. dblplay1212

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    "He didn't have the right to touch my son."

    "Why not?"

    :facepalm:
     
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    I hope the first person that defends that cop gets AIDS.
     
  11. Truman

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  12. dblplay1212

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    Not the Magic Johnson AIDS. Real AIDS.
     
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  13. Barves2125

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    Please respond to this with any of the number of studies done that show LEOs are way more likely to physically abuse their partners than ordinary citizens.
     
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  14. Truman

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    I didn't know that, but if I thought he'd actually want to have an honest discussion, perhaps I would. However bringing that up has nothing to do with what happened in that video, and counterproductive to any thoughtful discussion on it.
     
  15. Barves2125

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    Agreed. Just responding to that final line of that post. Weird to talk about how glad you are some known domestic abusers aren't allowed to be LEOs when there is empirical evidence that those that are in law enforcement are twice as likely to abuse their partner as an ordinary citizen. Because they either do allow those types to be LEOs or becoming an LEO turns someone into one of those types. Could be a bit of both.
     
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  16. Frank Martin

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    I'll be the first one with the hot take

    The kid shouldn't have littered. The guy shouldn't have put his hands on the kid. The woman shouldn't have reacted the way she did to the officer. The officer shouldn't have arrested her. The daughter videoing it shouldn't have antagonized the officer and called him a bitch.
     
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  17. Anison

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    Kids litter.
    Bystanders sometimes do dumb shit like put their hands on kids.
    Parents get aggressive in situations where their children are threatened.
    The cop's literal job is to calm everyone down, remind the kid not to litter and the guy not to put his hands on someone else's kid.
    Instead he escalated the situation for no apparent reason.
     
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  18. Barves2125

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    I'm very much anti-litter and have been for a long, long time. There are trash cans everywhere and there's literally almost never a good reason to litter. But it doesn't matter if the little kid was ripping styrofoam into tiny pieces and letting it blow into Arlington Cemetery. No stranger has any right to put their hands on that kid for it. Especially in a malicious manner. The officer even asking the mother why that's a problem is absurd because he should damn well know that it's still wrong in a legal sense if nothing else.
     
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  19. Truman

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    How exactly did the woman react to the officer? She said why she called him, what she was unhappy about and why she disagreed with the cop. She wasn't insulting him or verbally assaulting him in anyway. She didnt call him any names, or step towards him. He antagonized her and when her daughter tried to get her mom to calm down, he escalated it.

    Agree with the other parts.
     
  20. Frank Martin

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    You're not accurately describing the situation. The cop tried to have a calm conversation but that didn't work.
     
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  21. Truman

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    Youre not correctly interpreting the situation.
     
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  22. OopsPowSurprise

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    Cop called to diffuse situation

    Escalates it. That's a bad cop

    Bet the women didn't get charged either
     
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  23. Frank Martin

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    We will just have to agree to disagree if you feel screaming in a person's face is acceptable behavior.
     
  24. Truman

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    We will have to disagree if you feel screaming in someone's face from several feet away is possible.

    I mean, I guess giraffes can do it, but I dont see any giraffes in the video.
     
  25. OopsPowSurprise

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    I bet that wasn't the first time that cop dealt with people who were pissed

    Most parents would lose their head if some random person grabbed their kid
     
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  26. Anison

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    Saying "What's wrong with that?" in a calm tone does not equate to a calm conversation. C'mon man...someone had just put their hands on her kid. "What's wrong with that?"

    His demeaning this woman who is trying to protect her kid that was just assaulted (for littering) is at best irrational behavior by this cop. Her angry reaction to that snide, shitty question is a given as soon as he asked it.
     
  27. Frank Martin

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    lol
     
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  28. Anison

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    I'm gonna just go ahead and assume you are dug in on this one, but it's baffling that someone can call the police because their kid is assaulted and then be asked by the responding officer why the assaulter didn't have the right to do so - over littering. Calm tone or not, that's akin to "when did you stop beating your wife?" as a shitty position for an officer to take. This guy is bad at his job. Doesn't matter that she was black and the assaulter was white - even if races reversed that cop really sucks at his job.
     
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  29. Frank Martin

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    Just because you don't like a question doesn't mean you have to react to it inappropriately. It would be different had he been sarcastic or condescending with the question.

    However you acknowledged he did it in a calm tone.
     
  30. Popovio

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    "Why didn't you teach him not to litter?"

    As if a stranger choking her son was her fault due to bad parenting. How the hell is that not an antagonistic question?

    "He doesn't have the right to put his hands on my son"

    "Why not?"

    How is that even a question? The cop was being dismissive of her complaint right off the bat. I'm pretty sure if someone laid hands on my kid and the cop acknowledged it and said "so what?", I'd be pretty fucking incensed about it. So she predictably raises her voice and she goes to jail. Given the context of the situation, I really don't see how anybody can think that woman deserved to be arrested.
     
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  31. Frank Martin

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    Do you have any evidence the child was choked?

    Secondly, who has said she should have been arrested?
     
  32. theriner69er

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    I was waiting for - do you want to press charges against this man for grabbing your son. Still waiting.....
     
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  33. Mister Me Too

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    Everything you've said is dead on, but the person you're arguing with is not interested in logic, fact or objectivity, very pointless to bother trying to have this discussion with him.
     
  34. Popovio

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    I speak with watson on a bi-weekly basis, we are ride or die FIFA homies. I think it's fine he has strong opinions which he vigorously defends; a homogenous consensus in a thread is boring. I don't agree with him in this case, but I'm fine with hearing a dissenting opinion. I'm also 100% positive people would be surprised by the demeanor of real life Watson.
     
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  35. dblplay1212

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    I'd love to see this cop's reaction if someone choked his child.
     
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  36. Frank Martin

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    It's funny watching the liberals act like trump supporters while telling themselves they're so much better than trump supporters.
     
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    Are you suggesting he trolls online? Why I've never!
     
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    I had to close the video when he asked why she didn't teach her son not to litter. Could you imagine calling the police because someone grabbed your child by the neck and he asks you that bullshit? I probably would've died that day.
     
  39. Daniel Ocean

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    I made it to him asking why it was wrong for a stranger to choke her 7 year old.
     
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  42. OopsPowSurprise

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    Old man should have stopped resisting/talking back/yelling
     
  43. dblplay1212

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    You logged into the wrong account, Craig.
     
  44. miles

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    PA cop killer got put down today. He was hiding out in a trailer. No details are really out yet other than he was hiding in a trailer and he is dead.
     
  46. Mister Me Too

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    I don't need any more details than this.
     
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    Cop got suspended for 10 days and will face mandatory training.
    Charges have not been dropped for mother or either daughter.
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    'But the buck stops here,' Fitzgerald said. He said Martin showed neglect of duty and discourtesy. He said the officer will undergo training before he returns to duty.
     
  49. miles

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    Holy shit @ them trying to charge him with resisting arrest and not cooperating