Ballon D'Or - Messi '09, '10 winner

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  1. soulfly

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    What say jooooo? Guesses on the ranking?

    Xabi Alonso
    Dani Alves
    Iker Casillas
    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Didier Drogba
    Samuel Eto'o
    Cesc Fabregas
    Asamoah Gyan
    Julio Cesar
    Miroslav Klose
    Philipp Lahm
    Maicon
    Thomas Mueller
    Arjen Robben
    Bastian Schweinsteiger
    David Villa
    Xavi
    Carles Puyol
    Andres Iniesta
    Diego Forlan
    Lionel Messi
    Mesut Oezil
    Wesley Sneijder
     
  2. Wicket

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    Re: Ballon D'Or - Does Xavi win?

    Im just trusting the bookies with this:

    1 Sneijder
    2 Xavi
    3 Iniesta (although that would upset me a great deal, the POS)
     
  3. volball625

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    Sneijder doesn't even make the short list. Straight Barcelona. Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.
     
  4. Keef

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    Xavi will win and buckeyegunner will rage really hard
     
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  6. ChileanNole

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    Xavi should win, Messi will.
     
  7. Gunners

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    Re: Ballon D'Or - Does Xavi win?

    Award is a joke.
    Based on what exactly. A decent club season and an average world cup where Villa, Iniesta, Puyol, and Casillas easily all had better tournaments.

    Most overrated player in history now if he wins this.
     
  8. Wicket

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    sneijder won the scudetto, the champions league and played the WC final, as much as I hate him he deserves to win
     
  9. ChileanNole

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    not a finalist.
     
  10. ChileanNole

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    "Barcelona's Xavi, Andres Iniesta and Lionel Messi were named in the three-man shortlist for the 2010 FIFA Ballon d'Or award on Monday."
     
  11. Wicket

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    :facepalm:
     
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    Re: Ballon D'Or - Does Xavi win?

    the fact that Sneijer isn't on the shortlist is pretty ridiculous.
     
  13. soulfly

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    :loldog: you're such a hoebag Barca hater.
     
  14. soulfly

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    True. It's fucked up every WC. Messi should definitely beat Iniesta and possibly beat Xavi, but he's not going to. He'll finish 3rd.
     
  15. Gunners

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    Re: Ballon D'Or - Does Xavi win?

    I will admit Barcelona are playing easily the best in the world right now. I just think Xavi is ridiculously overrated.

    The guy has 2 goals and 7 assists this year in 32 appearances this year
    Messi has 23 and 10

    Last year 6 and 19 in 62 appearances for Xavi. Hell Fabregas produced more than that in 29 EPL games.
    Last year Messi had 49 and 11 in 64 games.


    People say Xavi is the conducter that makes it all run. I say bullshit. It's just as much Messi, Iniesta, and Sergio as him. This year Villa too. They are running around all day as well creating these open passing lanes. Messi is in the middle of all the buildup always looking for that dagger ball and is actually better than Xavi at finding it.

    Xavi is just a pawn who helps the king and the bishops get into striking position.


    Barca replace Xavi with Cesc and lose nothing.

    Who do you replace Messi with?
     
  16. Wicket

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    affelay will take xavi's place and do better :)
     
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    Theo
     
  18. soulfly

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    Xavi also completed 110 of 112 passes against Barca. You continue to try and compare the production of Xavi to that of Fabregas, which makes you a dumbass.

    I'll most definitely agree with you on Messi running stuff. He's easily the cog of this team. Sergio and Iniesta not as much.
     
  19. soulfly

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    Yeah, he will definitely playing more of a holding role for Barca....
     
  20. Gunners

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    I'm the dumbass when people out there think Xavi is the best player in the world. I'm a moron because Cesc produces more than Xavi and is a better player for Spain than Xavi is.

    Xavi connects with more passes because that is the only game he has. He cannot dribble anyone and take a shot on like Iniesta, Villa, and Messi can. All he can do is pass it to them and hope that they can produce something special.


    I'll take a passer just as good who happens to be the best dribbler and one of the best if not the best finisher in the world in Messi or one of the best dribblers and passers in the world in Iniesta.
     
  21. soulfly

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    Xavi can't dribble yet Barca players cheer for whomever is able to steal the ball off of him in practice. That makes perfect sense.
     
  22. Gunners

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    He can hold up possession as well as anyone. When does he ever take players on?

    Great he's the best keep away player in the world. Guess that makes him the best player.


    They just want to give it a WC winner and of course that WC winner has to play for Barca. Even though Xavi had a shit WC and good but not great club season he is now going to be labelled best player in the world. Sure.

    If they need to give it a WC/Barca winner give it to Puyol. How many times has his heroics saved both club and country.
     
  23. RoyalShocker

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    laughed
     
  24. Gunners

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    More deserving than Xavi and I hate both of them. I hope they both die in a fire.
     
  25. RoyalShocker

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    I blame Rafa for Sneijder's exclusion, though.
     
  26. Wicket

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    I blame howard for Sneijders exclusion
     
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  28. Mr. Bananagrabber

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    List is bullshit.

    Homeless World Cup Numbers

    Xavi: Not selected
    Messi: Not Selected
    Iniesta: Not Selected
    Bebe: 6 games 40 goals
     
  29. ChileanNole

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  30. Mr. Bananagrabber

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    He carried that team on his back.

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  31. Keef

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    He hasn't even won yet and you mad.
     
  32. soulfly

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    Puyol was pretty gangster in the WC.

    You really love to hate on Xavi, though. He's slow as molasses and miraculously he's able to complete an absurd amount of passes every game and the entire offense goes through him. Why do you think he's not getting raped out there unless he has ridiculous vision and ball handling skills?
     
  33. Gunners

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    The whole attack goes through Messi as well. How many goals does Barca score that Messi doesn't take a part in vs Xavi. I know the answer.
     
  34. RoyalShocker

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    You guys are right... If Robben wasn't such an extreme choke artist/faggit, Sneijder wins without question. I honestly think he should win it either way, but the World Cup pretty much determines who wins even though he carried his team to the final and Xavi was pretty meh. That's the way it goes, though. I think we can all agree that they are both faggits in any case.
     
  35. soulfly

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    Barca probably scores 99% of the time when Xavi has touched the ball. How do i know this? Because he's always the one bringing it up the field and he's always the one switching the point of attack. It's only been pretty recent that Messi has started wandering the middle of the field and acting more like a midfielder.
     
  36. soulfly

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    Villa's take:

     
  37. Gunners

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    Xavi certainly showing he is the world's best player w/o Messi in the lineup. :loldog:

    Too bad it's costing me money but proves my point.
     
  38. Arrec Bardwin

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    I'm a Xavi hater too. He is a great player, but not top 10 in the world imo.
     
  39. soulfly

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    Soooooo Messi = GOAT?
     
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    :respek:
     
  41. Wicket

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    no, he might be (like a 1% chance) when all is said and done but there have been players more dominant than him and maybe messi can beat them out for longevity but that remains to be seen.
     
  42. soulfly

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    Didn't mean it literally, more as current. I think he has proven himself to be better than cronaldo tho. Just saying, he must be pretty good to apparently make Xavi and iniesta so much better than they actually are
     
  43. Arrec Bardwin

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    I think C Ronaldo might be a more talented player, but I would rather have Messi on my team.
     
  44. soulfly

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    Ronaldo has been a disappearing act against top teams as of late. Not only that, but he doesn't make his teammates better at all
     
  45. Arrec Bardwin

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    FIFY

    Messi may not have the athletic ability or technical skill that Ronaldo has, but Ronaldo is such a huge cunt that Messi is a better player than him.
     
  46. Arrec Bardwin

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    Disagree, I think Messi is more prone to beat 3 or 4 players and score than Ronaldo is. Hard to say either way for both players though, since they have both been on completely stacked teams their whole careers.

    Either way, we are splitting hairs when discussing this.
     
  47. IT

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    lol messi is far superior to ronaldo
     
  48. Gunners

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    I'll take Messi right now but I can change my mind. A year ago at this time I would have taken Rooney over any player in the world. He was just unbelievable.

    Ronaldo and Messi are both incredible and I think their accomplishments to this date are about the same.
     
  49. Gunners

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    You still gotta read the play and attack for those tapins.

    I don't give a shit how he did it. He scored huge goals and was scoring about a goal a game in England which is incredible.


    34 goals is pretty damn impressive when he didn't score the last 3 months.

    Before the Bayern injury he was playing as well as anyone.
     
  50. soulfly

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    You kidding me? Ronaldo hasnt carried anything but his ego on his back for the last 2 years now. Messi has willed barca to victory in practically every big game. If he's not scoring he's creating chances for those around him. Ronaldo gets half his goals from set pieces and doesn't create shit for those around him. Part of carrying your team is making those around you better