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Discussion in 'TV Board' started by Sterling A, Apr 8, 2015.
Caught up on this season over the last couple days. I almost forgot how good it is.
I dont believe it for one second. mind you she also cant write because of her arm.
what points to her making a fake one?
With all the "i wonder what becomes of Kim" talk, like most, I also always figured something tragic will probably happen to her. As in she gets killed in some crossover with his criminal dealings. But it's possible something tragic happens where she doesn't die but Jimmy just royally fucks her over somehow, and she just leaves to start over.
Fast forward to present day Cinnebon Saul....and Kim is the one who serendipitously encounters him and turns him in!
I imagine when the show ends, it will obviously be fast forwarded to Cinnebon Saul time period and whatever is being slowly built up there. So i wonder if Kim will play a part in however the show ends. Or if it will even end with him being caught at all. It would be too boring of an end if it was just him living miserably and paranoid. Something's going to happen.
just freeform brainstorming here...
They addressed this on the podcast. Gustavo Fring nailed it. She was crying because she saw that Jimmy was becoming emotionless wrt his brother, something that always was important to him. A scary realization for her.
They didnt comment about if the letter was faked by her, but Idk what the point of that would be from a narrative device if that whole scene was to show how Jimmy is becoming emotionally dead.
I don't think Kim has the ability to forge a letter from Chuck and fool Jimmy, nor do I think it is in her character to decide to do it or to think she could even if she wanted to.
Yea that was my main gripe with that theory. You’ve followed kim for over 3 seasons not a single thing i could think of would point to her pulling of a thing like that.
She grabs the letter the same place she put it last episode (she could have put the fake letter there sure but idk) she clearly had a tough time giving it to him and when he doesnt care she completely breaks. That scene makes complete sense without a fake letter. really confusing why people think a fake letter would make any sense for Kim.
Rewatch of curb season one and jimmy is porno Gill
The Kim forging the letter theory is almost as dumb as everyone whose convinced themselves that she’s gunna be the victim of some epic tragedy and that that’s Jimmy’s impetus for going full Saul.
The show has been showing us for four seasons her disdain ‘Slippin Jimmy’; after Chucks death and Jimmy’s way of completely absolving himself of all emotion related to it, he seems to be obviously (to her) sliding back down that path.
I think she gives him an ultimatum do things the right way or she leaves, and we all know the choice he ends up making.
I think the flash forward scenes are less about how paranoid he is and how much life sucks on the run, but rather it’s showing him coming to terms with the fact that he chose that life over one with Kim.
Honestly I’m most excited to finally find out who Ignacio is and why Saul was expecting him when Walt and Jesse originally kidnap him.
I agree that Kim won’t necessarily fall victim to some terrible tragedy. I thought the Mesa Verde model scene foreshadowed her possibly taking career opportunities elsewhere with their expansion.
She was fed up with his detachment from the situation and thought the letter would cause a breakdown and she’d see actual human emotion from him. When the letter had no effect and she realized how different he now really is from the mailroom Jimmy she fell in love with she just lost it.
Thats how i see it too.
I agree that its not by any means a sure thing she dies or something along those lines, but i wouldnt rule it out in this universe.
It’s quite parallel to tha Breaking Bad story
You’ve got s sympathetic loser with some very sad circumstances who emerges as a bona fide sociopath
She’s coming to grips with that nature and sees how she’s played a part in his scheming including the death of another human being
Kim is unaware of Saul's role in tipping off the insurance company about Chuck's condition, correct? I think if/when she finds that out that's when she will make her exit. We saw how passionate she was in the scene with Howard and a lot of that comes from Howard seemingly being guilty in triggering Chuck's relapse and her being upset that Howard decided to explain what he thought happened with Chuck to Jimmy. Right now she thinks Jimmy is maybe a little in shock, maybe a little disconnected because of how shitty Chuck was to him. But if/when she finds out it was Jimmy who tipped off the insurance company she'll realize that he's the one who triggered Chuck's relapse and he just doesn't give a shit. If anything he was pleased with the news that the insurance thing is what did Chuck in. He was borderline catatonic in the days following Chuck's death but when Howard dropped that on him he popped up, made some coffee and just moved on.
Nacho's first name is Ignacio
"you wanted me to talk. I talked"
Mike is the best part of this show
Loved the contrast between Mikes use of time with methodology and care for detail while Saul is miserable with boredom looking for action
I disagree. Saul is just as good but sure theres more action in the mike parts. but thats kind of a given.
Mikes big moments have outshined Saul. His episode in the first season is up there with some of the best in breaking bad, Saul hasn’t had that yet. I really enjoy the show, saying mike is the best part isn’t really taking away from saul. I just think Banks is incredible at his character and it always shows.
There's a fortress, I'll call some of my guys and we'll hit them tonight. Twins, fuck that, we'll take on everyone by ourselves.
Seriously, if we don't get at least 2-3 more scenes with the twins then I'm gonna be majorly disappointed
Nah, you don't need them. They hit peak mythos and had a built in stated reason why they need to lay low for a while.
More would be superfluous and problematic.
understand jimmy’s self sabotage but kim’s perplexes me. But I’m stupid so maybe it’s that
I think she's starting to hate her profession
The judge last episode pretty much explained it for us. Shes trying to rediscover herself as the lawyer she wants to be.
And the drama around her probably didnt make her love lawyers.
Monday's episode was awesome. And the way it started makes me think we'll be getting beyond the Jimmy era for a good chunk of this show's run at some point.
Starting to move quicker. Really doesn't feel much different than watching BB. Masterful job with a prequel, seems like these shows flop more often then turn out like this.
Best episode of the season on Monday. So so so so good.
The scene in the office was amazing. The attention to detail was incredible. The same blue suit cases he used in BB was used in BCS.
Gus talking to Hector last episode was cold blooded.
Sure was, but given that we know how it ends, it is also very revealing. Fring let this be personal and in keeping him alive for personal reasons, it costs him his own life.
Just makes their interactions all the more compelling, can't wait to super binge the BCS/BB timeline when it's all said and done
Do we know how many seasons BCS is going to be?
most comments I have seen made mention that it could go longer than Breaking Bad, but at least the same.
also seems most think the last season, or split season, would be on Cinnabon Gene and the end of the story for Saul.
Would be awesome if Kim ends up defending “Cinnabon Gene”
I think thats what some people hope for, i highly doubt Gould and Gilligan would do that. there might be a little more Gene in the last season sure but i bet you it wont be close to split.
Also Kai gonna get got.
Oh most definitely, looking forward to it
show is definitely ramping up. Interested to see what happens to Nacho by season's end.
Definitely gonna have a dramatic last episode or two with Jimmy going full Saul Goodman and Kim leaving him, imhv
Kim aint leaving him yet.
The scene with Gus in Hectors hospital room was amazing writing and acting.
Oh shit. Thst business card.
Loved huel’s “they didn’t find dB Cooper”
Man Kim is fighting for Jimmy but the end is near. I’m gonna be sad.
What an episode
Imagine the excitement in the writers room when they decided that they'd be showing the creation of the lab, and the way it could have unfolded given who was in charge of the operation.
loved that they reference Huell's pickpocketing
That split screen opening montage was just brilliant. This show does pure visual storytelling like no other.
big fan of the season but i don't care for the lab construction story line so far