You're the one not making sense. The cops said it has Tuco's prints and his prints ONLY on the gun. Which is what made the cops know immediately Mike had been provoked, threatened and(or) bribed. Then, like I said, seemingly failing to get the cops to take them seriously they both leave. I'm sorry I'm a dunce and things don't add up.
Saul tells them Mike will make himself avaliable to the defense attorney if they try to fight it. The lawyer also say that the gun makes all the difference implying that if mike doesnt testify they dont have a case. Seems clear enough to me, but sure if you want it to be a problem then have at it.
I see. So the police basically have to accept the fact that the gun did fall from a low flying bird's peak like Saul said? The scene was just kind of vague. Nothing confirmed or in writing. Just basically a real defeated look on one of the cops faces. I'm curious to see how this would work in real life. A victim out of nowhere, after the fact, comes in and clearly makes a false claim brought on from a threat or bribe or whatnot.. but.. they don't have any evidence that happened so they have to accept that it just came out of his own moral conscience to do the right thing. I'm inclined to think the victim himself might be then be under investigation or seeing as this is a crime involving a cartel related individual and an ex-cop would the DEA not think they might be in cahoots or something and put a tail on Mike? But anyway.. Like I said in the original post. I was unclear on this particular issue. The other stuff in my original post is still suspect.
You can call this nitpicking but I had some issues with the episode last night. First of all: Who didn't know that was Mike under the mask? It was clear he was making a spike strip of some kind. (Yeah I know, he didn't want the guy to see him but still the way they filmed the scene it's like OH WHO IS IT?" We all knew it was Mike. They filmed the scene just as they would in Breaking Bad. How did Mike just walk right up to the driver and stick a gun in his ear? Not like there's anywhere to hide out there in the middle of nowhere. (besides the big sign he parked behind up the road) The scene pointed to the bushes and trees farther down the road, hence the pulley system. He hid in there and the driver of the truck noticed the car by the sign. Saul and Ernie/Chuck both visit the 24/7 copy/fax place on the same exact night? And somehow miss each other? Thank god Kim became all knowing there at the last second and sparked the whole thing. Kim broke bad and told Jimmy to dot his I's and cross his T's. She is in Skyler's position: to benefit from her partner's criminality, but to not be incriminated. She warned Jimmy to cover his tracks because she knew he did it. Kim just became an upgraded Skyler. Chuck doesn't conk out at HHM or in court but I guess somehow all those copiers were too much for him to take? It's not just the physical part of his sickness. Chuck lost his reputation and his status of being perfect with the address mishap. He knew Jimmy did it and can't stand when his brother is successful, gains control etc. Chuck lost control, wasn't getting the answer out of the storeboy - coupled with the excess of electronics compared to a conference room in HHM is a recipe for disaster. His actual motivations are darker and more petty being jealously and a obsession with controlling others. Also, remember this quote: "My own brother stabbed me in the back!" Chuck's been stabbing Jimmy in his back since day one. Anytime Chuck has lost control or Jimmy has the upper hand, Chuck goes through his hypersensitivity episodes. Also, after taking the money from the cartel Mike didn't seem very Mike like. Out flinging money around buying drinks on the house acting like he's having a jolly old time? If he wanted the police to find the guy he left why didn't he ring them like he did earlier before the Tuco beatdown and hang up? Mike knows he's in the clear. Hell he may be planning to put Hector away (to end up in a wheelchair). Why call the police when you know your jobs not done? Then again.. who in their right mind sees a wrecked vehicle with a guy taped up on the ground and takes the tape off the guy without calling the police first? This is Cartel territory. Who the fuck knows what went down there? Are we living in the Fargo universe? This is taking place years ago. Maybe I'm unclear on this one but did Mike ever successfully get the gun charges filed against himself? Hector stopped giving a shit about that? or just didn't know he hadn't done it yet? Seems like he still had plenty to worry about. Already answered. Also, Hector knows Mike is an ex-cop and a wily son of a bitch. Yet Nacho is the only one who came to this conclusion? It's plausible I guess.. Nacho knows him better but still. Hector doesn't care about persons in small positions. He's upper echelon. Mike is sneaking around underneath Hector. It honestly pains to me to have issues with this show but nonetheless there's definitely some liberties taken here to move the plot along.. sort of 2nd rate at times. Everyone has opinion. Watch the show a couple more times as you would with Breaking Bad. A lot of the same directions. I think there is a bit you may have missed or didn't pick up on.
the other stuff is not at all suspect. Yea maybe they dont drop the case irl they can clearly still go for it, but the show made it sound like they wouldnt if Mike wouldnt testify. this show is bb all over again its very realistic but everytime they add a little extra to make it a show youd actually watch, out comes people screaming "hey wtf thats not real life!" yea its a tv show.
The only thing I'd add to Emma 's post is that Kim knew immediately that Chuck was right about the supposed "mistake" so her cross T's dot I's warning came after hours of playing through all of the possibilities in her own mind. It wasn't "out of nowhere" by any stretch. That said I actually do agree with 1SHOT on the point of Mike's post-heist behavior. That was very much at odds with what we have come to expect with Mike. But the writers do get a bit of a pass in the sense that, we're seeing the "before" Mike and this may very well prove (as is suggested by the frames on the previous page where Mike is explaining that they have to kill) to be a lesson we are watching unfold.
I think Mikes flirting and buying a round was also a device to make him feel even worse when he finds out he got someone killed for helping the truck driver but i could be wrong on that one.
Maybe it's supposed to be un-Mike like in the same way that leaving the witness alive is unlike the Mike we know from BB. Even though he's had that gruff exterior throughout BCS maybe the old Mike could still enjoy seemingly normal things like drinking at the bar with a bunch of people but we're going to see him become progressively darker and even more pessimistic/jaded as he gets into this line of work.
Incredible episode. Did we just watch chuck die? Best of the season so far, the slow parts in the last few are definitely leading to a bang at the end. Should have known to be more patient after watching breaking bad so many times. Best episode of the season so far. How many are left?
I took Mike slamming a whiskey at the beginning of the scene as a sign that he was drunk which is why he acted out of character buying a round for everyone. They've never shown him drinking that I can recall so I figured he got a little tipsy and made a mistake
I think it was to show him out of character, but he has been shown drinking Pabst or some other beer.
Mike buying the house a round is the breadcrumb that will get him caught. Nacho foreshadowed Mike getting caught. (Hector forgot all about you but if the driver mentions he saw some gringo...). Nacho is worried the driver will be able to ID him but from the scene we know he won't. Hector will send his henchmen out to the area to find out who did it, the bartender or one of the patrons will say there was some crusty old gringo throwing around $100 bills around the time the heist happened, Hector will put it together, and that is how that story will progress. That's my prediction anyway. I agree it was totally out of character so it has to serve some purpose to the plot. EDIT: Also, as I think about it, that narrative I just made up mirrors what is happening to Jimmy. he pulls some stunt he didn't need to, his confidant warns him he will be caught, the guy he screwed is smart and finds him out, shit happens and the "bad guy" (Chuck/Hector) gets incapacitated which serves as a catalyst for the "good guy" (Jimmy/Mike) to break bad and devlove into the people they become by the time Walter White enters their lives.
that will be lazy as hell if buying one round for the bar gets him caught on something like this. people buy a round at bars all the time. I think the point was more that Mike was happy with him buying the round and flirting with the waitress, and then he got smacked in the face with the news that he basically got an innocent good samaritan shot in the face.
Lice infestation. So many of your complaints are just so awful, I honestly feel you shouldn't watch the show any more.
Seriously. Guess people can bitch about anything depending on your own perspective. Best episode of this season imo
It's a common thought and goal for some type of people to "buy a round" for the bar at least once in their life
At least people are finally discussing the plot and it's not another week of just "character development"
i've enjoyed this season. Jimmy is the anti hero. Don't know whether to be mad at him or Chuck. Maybe they're both really bad people. Chuck is harder to put your finger on. Which is why the writers are crafty. It's brilliant to have a character you can't exactly say whether he's good or bad. Ultimately you have to say he's seriously flawed because he didn't want his own brother to succeed. I don't think he ever did anything that bad to Jimmy though. He definitely should've been more supportive. But wanting to keep Mesa Verde is not wrong. And now he might be a vegetable for life because of what Jimmy did. Team Jimmy though anyways.
they didnt show it but i think they are just implying that he is as tireless planner and planned/researched everything before hand. Just like he did with the baseball card/prescription drug guy and nacho and that he knew he didnt have to bring a gun and would be ok with just himself on security. Extremely meticulous before he acts
He's sitting outside the warehouse when the truck pulls in, door closes, and he immediately hears the sounds of pneumatic tools used to change tires. Knowing the truck just crossed the border, he probably knows the weak spots in border patrol screening and puts it together.
fuck the haters. I love this show. the pacing has been wonderful, imo. Vince Gilligan is the master of the slow-burn.
loved the episode. Finally caught up. Yes, some things may have seemed slow during the middle of the season, but there were several important pieces of the story developing along the way. I think they've done a great job by occupying time with Jimmy/Saul, HHM, Mike, and the cartel.
I've spent a fair amount of time in bars in my day and no one has ever bought a round for the whole place. Is that weird?
Peter Gould Dissects Latest Episode; Bob Odenkirk Applauds Rhea Seehorn 1 day ago This week, Peter Gould dissects the latest episode, while Bob Odenkirk applauds Rhea Seehorn’s performance. Plus, Seehorn teases the season ender. Read on for more: • Peter Gould explains to People, “A lot of this episode is really about consequences or blowback for Mike and Jimmy. We find in the course of the episode that the schemes, which in some ways were so perfect and did in fact achieve their ends, also have consequences for other people.” • “It’s fun to write a character who may use bad means but he’s good in some essential way. It’s sad to think he’ll become this hard-hearted Saul Goodman,” Peter Gould tells Forbes. • Discussing Kim with Yahoo TV, Peter Gould says that “she’s going to make sure that if Jimmy is going to do some underhanded stuff, he better do it right. I think that’s what she’s saying to him, but where this goes and whether their relationship can survive this is an open question.” • “This is the Rhea Seehorn year,” Bob Odenkirk declares at Deadline‘s Contenders TV panel, while Vince Gilligan says, “We come to realize that from the Breaking Bad universe, anyone (returning) is fair game.” • Rhea Seehorn teases the season’s final episodes to the New York Post: “The last episodes are … a train speeding towards a wall where people have to figure out how they’re going to handle their relationships — and each other.” • Bustle comments on how “despite the fact that Mike’s plan goes perfectly, it somehow still manages to go awry at the same time, reaping some unexpected collateral damage along the way.” • Collider.com names Rhea Seehorn the TV performer of the week because she’s made Kim “one of the most unexpectedly fascinating aspects of an already great series, and has had an incredible season making her quietly become the heart and soul of Better Call Saul.” • Interviewed by UPI, Michael McKean calls Chuck “a man who respects and honors the law and he just doesn’t think that his brother has the stuff and he doesn’t think that his brother is a legitimate addition to the honor and integrity of the law.” • In a conversation with FoxNews.com, Rhea Seehorn says, “I love playing someone definitely that’s not just ancillary but has her how own three dimensions to her and does her own thing.” • Den of Geek comments, “Better Call Saul has shown audiences that a spinoff doesn’t have to come with such a stigma, and can even enrich the original story.”
Just getting caught up at the gym. Watching episode 7 where Jimmy starts wearing his trademark suits. Dying of laughter at this scene; feels like a segment out of an Oceans 11 movie. Hoping this sets Saul free...
His partner so to speak who was in front of hector the entire time. That or Gus but it seems early for that.