Better Domestic Soccer League - MLS or Chinese Super League?

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  1. Heavy Mental

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  2. Ace Boogie

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    China is splashing the cash, will be interesting to see if they keep it up. That said they paid us 10M for Paulinho so their judgment is shit.
     
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    The MLS is going to get past their prime European legends who are already incredibly wealthy but want to prolong their careers and raise their profile in America. China is overpaying for guys who weren't able to really cut it in Europe but are still fairly decent with more years left in their careers. I don't know which will be better but I can comfortably say I don't forsee myself ever tuning into the Chinese Super League.
     
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    nailed it.
     
  5. Ace Boogie

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    Assessments are kind of my thing.
     
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    erm, but there are an awful lot of people who will.
     
  7. Heavy Mental

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    But what about the 1 billion people who live in China?

    The question isn't "will user Ace Boogie ever tune into a Chinese Super League match?" The question was, "which league will be better in five years?"
    Exactly.
     
  8. Ace Boogie

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    For fucks sake, where did I ever say people in general won't be tuning in? It is hard for me to give my opinion as to which is better when I don't watch one at all. The only thing I commented on was the type of players that seem to be targeted by the respective leagues, as that is the one area that I feel fairly comfortable in my knowledge to talk about.


    So in short, kindly go fist yourselves.
     
  9. Heavy Mental

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    you should relax man, it's just a casual debate.
     
  10. Ace Boogie

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    You should stop taking baths with your dad.

    It is funny how you two focused solely on a throwaway line in my post rather than the actual point I was making about the players they target in this casual debate though.
     
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    I wish Everton had a player as feisty as Ace Boogie and maybe we could hold on to a fucking lead for once.
     
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    The Chinese Super League's MVP is called the Mr. Football Golden Ball Award :laugh:
     
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    I didn't even think we had reached the point of debate, but if you were hoping somebody else would comment on the first part of the post Ace Boogie ... I would suggest that MLS will continue to attract that aging Euro superstar population that you've mentioned, because those guys are simply interested more in the U.S. as a place to be than are they China. I don't think their decision has anything to do with the quality of the respective leagues frankly. And with that said, I also don't see the type of player that will be getting paid in China to be that much better *or* worse than the vast majority of guys that will earn their living in MLS. Those aging stars are the exception, not the norm, after all. I guess when you say something like " China is overpaying for guys who weren't able to really cut it in Europe but are still fairly decent with more years left in their careers" I'm tempted to suggest that that description captures much of MLS' talent pool as well (except the league isn't overpaying over here).
     
  15. Ace Boogie

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    An even better way to determine the quality in both leagues is probably to track the player movement in the opposite direction. Maybe there have been some homegrown Chinese players to get looks in Europe but I haven't seen anything like that personally. You see guys from MLS get looks in the big European leagues more often. With the silly money being thrown at players in China maybe they wouldn't want to move, but for whatever reason it doesn't seem to happen. Until the Chinese Super League and MLS hold an extended series of friendlies vs. each other (not gonna hold my breath) this is one of the only ways to judge the respective talent levels.
     
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    Some Chinese company is going to sponsor The Portuguese league and they had a requirement that there be at least 10 Chinese players in the league but I think I saw where they dropped that idea. That is selling out on a ridiculous level.
     
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    Seems like there are some definite chinks in the viability of that plan.
     
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    Not enough of them could be the issue. Quality ones at least.

    On a different note, if China isn't hosting either the 2026 or 2030 World Cup I will be shocked. It's a shame the old guard at FIFA is going to miss out on the huge Chinese bribes that are going to be handed out.
     
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    By chinks I meant cracks and/or weak spots, you racist bastard.
     
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    Making iffy racist statements involving the Chinese is very hip these days.

     
  21. kyloren

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    Mls needs to break the bank and throw nba max money at stars like bale, Neymar, etc and try to entice them with the promise of being the face of us soccer
     
  22. Corky Bucek

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    I looked up both the Chinese National team and the U23 team and out of those according to wiki they have 3 players in Europe. One at Vitesse and 2 at some lower level Portuguese teams.
     
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    I'm sure they'd much prefer being the face of US soccer and bow down from being the face of world soccer
     
  24. kyloren

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    The endorsement money would be off the charts. Bale doesn't earn shit off the pitch compared to Ronaldo or beckham
     
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    No it wouldn't.

    And Bale doesn't earn shit compared to Ronaldo or Beckham because he doesn't look like a female orgasm personified.

    No woman wants to see Bale's ugly ass selling some undies
     
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    You seriously think a player would get better endorsement deals as the face of any MLS club as opposed to the likes of Madrid/Barca/United?
     
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  27. kyloren

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    Messi looks like a retarded elf and he makes a shit ton
     
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    He's also the best player in the world
     
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  29. Ace Boogie

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    The 2nd best player in the world isn't much for looks either but is picking up more endorsements. In fact Harry was just in Madrid on the way home from Barcelona this week to film another advert for Nike.
     
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    :laugh: <3 you
     
  31. Corky Bucek

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    You guys are arguing with Ross
     
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    Well then. :killme:
     
  33. JonathanCoachman

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    You sure it wasn't a world war 2 movie where Harry played someone ready to enlist in the military the day after Pearl Harbor? That's what comes to mind when I see his face.
     
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    Is Pato in China yet?
     
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    Is Chelsea in China?
     
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    :roll:

    Atleti bought him for €35 Mil and sold him 6 months later for €42 mil.
     
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  38. Andy Reocho

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    This feels like a few years ago at Monaco, just in a crappier league
     
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    l feel like it should be mentioned that China is also raping the Brazilian domestic league.
     
  40. Ace Boogie

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    Silver lining is that you can barely feel it when raped by the Chinese. Or so I've heard.
     
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    Chelsea turned down £58 mil for Oscar, would like to find out about some of the Chinese league's other massive failed bids.
     
  42. Ace Boogie

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    The bid itself wasn't massive but Ighalo was offered 300k a week wages but chose to stay at Watford where he is making 30k, according to him.
     
  43. Andy Reocho

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    I imagine a lot of these players will be back in Europe in 2 years
     
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    I'm not sure what I would do in this situation. If you accept that offer, you're basically agreeing to spend a few years of your athletic peak playing against lesser competition, in a league where your friends and family wouldn't be able to watch you play nearly as often.

    However, you're also getting paid 10 times your currently salary. Not often that 10x raises come around, in any field.
     
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    The Economist had an interesting article on the Chinese spending spree.
    http://www.economist.com/news/china...-players-has-political-aim-too-patriotic-goal
     
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    Lavezzi, who was given a special send-off by his former PSG teammates, said it was not just the financial package on offer which had led to him moving east.

    "The development plan of the club interests me," he said. "It's one of the reasons that pushed me to join the club, along with the financial interest.

    "I'm fascinated by Chinese culture. To play in this country is an interesting challenge -- it's why I came."
     
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    Dude went to PSG and then China. Yeah bullshit
     
  48. Heavy Mental

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    What's he gonna say? "I'm rich biotch!!!" and then blow on the car horn?
     
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    Kylo Ren the poster is about as big of a fool as the character