Realignment: The ACC enters the Suck Zone

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  1. Taques

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    i am currently speaking with several athletic directors in the ACC on behalf of jay-zs friend
     
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  2. DeToxRox

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    Big 12 deal puts focus on where Pac-12 will land
    Now that the Big 12 has secured six-year deals with ESPN and Fox Sports worth $2.28 billion, all eyes are on the Pac-12, which got out of its exclusive negotiating window with ESPN and Fox three weeks ago. This is what we know.

    • ESPN and Amazon Prime remain the front runners to pick up Pac-12 rights, with agreements potentially coming by the end of the year. It’s too early to describe what’s in those packages with any accuracy. But it’s important to note that ESPN’s Big 12 deal does not take it out of the running for Pac-12 rights. And Amazon still wants a package of college football games that can complement its Thursday night package of NFL games.
    • Pac-12 officials’ initial reaction when they heard of the Big 12’s deal was relief. Big 12 schools each will receive around $31 million per school as part of the deal, and Pac-12 officials are optimistic that they will be able to eclipse that figure. This means that unless the Big Ten or SEC come calling, it’s unlikely a Pac-12 school will be persuaded to leave the conference.
    • One reason for that optimism is the fact that the Pac-12 has its rights in the open market. The Big 12 could not have hit the open market until 2024. While Amazon and ESPN are the clear front-runners, the Pac-12 has had talks with Apple, Fox and Warner Bros. Discovery. The theory is that the presence of multiple serious bidders will help drive the price up.
    • The big question will come down to price. Media companies believe the Big 12 deal set the market. The Pac-12 still is aiming higher. Keep in mind, the Pac-12 will have fewer schools -- 10 instead of 12 -- after USC and UCLA depart for the Big Ten. That’s two fewer mouths to feed. ESPN took pains to make sure that its Big 12 deal would not result in a bigger per-school payout than the ACC. Because of the ACC Network, it’s difficult to determine how much ACC schools make from its ESPN deal. But I was told that the Big 12 will not eclipse the ACC on that front at any point in its deal, which runs through 2030-31. ESPN is likely to approach Pac-12 negotiations in a similar way.
    • I keep seeing one aspect of the Big 12 deal that is creating confusion among fans on social media. Historically, the Big 12 had what it called "Tier Three" rights, which are the rights schools retained and sold to local broadcasters. These are the rights, for example, that Texas used to create the Longhorn Network with ESPN. ESPN now controls all of those rights as part of its deal; there are no more institutional-controlled games and no more Tier Three rights.
     
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  3. PSU12

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    That’s interesting on the ACC. ESPN clearly wants it to exist just as it is and nothing to rock that boat.
     
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  4. killerwvu

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    :roll: imagine playing games on the Discovery Network

    That article needs a picture of Baghdad Bob with it
     
  5. DeToxRox

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    Yep. It’s why I don’t expect the SEC to pursue ACC teams. They have a ton of inventory from the ACC for very little money compared to the big two. Blowing up their GOR to expand the SEC makes no sense.
     
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  6. Jimmy the Saint

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    The Pac-12 being optimistic about eclipsing the Big 12 deal is wild.
     
  7. DeToxRox

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    Discovery owns TNT and TBS.
     
  8. PSU12

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    I could see it with a heavy streaming influence from Amazon or apple.
     
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  9. killerwvu

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    We need the games on Discovery plus or whatever their streaming app is called. Maybe mix in some TruTV like they do for the tournament
     
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  10. DeToxRox

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    If they take Bezos money, they will eclipse the Big 12. It’ll be just be a trade off for what remaining relevancy they have left.
     
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  11. Jimmy the Saint

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    Easier to access for most people than Pac-12 Networks at least.
     
  12. DeToxRox

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  13. GoodForAnother

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    he and John Cazano teased big news today and it turned out to be a podcast they did with Bill Walton and that he isn’t happy UCLA is moving. they are both full of shit
     
  14. Bricktop the white

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    ESPN isn't going to have a choice if the ACC schools keep falling further and further behind and blow up the conference on their own.
     
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  15. Fidelio

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    these twats know nothing, ever
     
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  16. GoodForAnother

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    Don’t say this often but Tim Fitzgerald is right
     
  17. texasraider

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    I hope you know that by saying Fitz is right in this situation, you're saying Stewie Mandel is wrong
     
  18. GoodForAnother

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    that makes me feel better
     
  19. GoodForAnother

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    provocative
     
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    after Texas blocked Houston getting into the conf forever, we are making them go play there next year
     
  21. TC

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    Thread has become “Big 12 fanboys stroke each other off”
     
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  22. GoodForAnother

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    has it
     
  23. AIOLICOCK

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    And I'm here for it :blessed:

    If a league with parity and no bluebloods can generate money and views, then maybe one day we can get out of the SEC :pray:
     
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  24. EMAW FC

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    "better stroke up, realignment could be getting very serious very quickly"
     
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  26. EMAW FC

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    "better stroke up, realignment could be getting very sensual very quickly"
     
  27. 20/20/20/20

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  28. GoodForAnother

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    strap better on, sensual realignment be could quickly very serious very
     
  29. GoodForAnother

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  30. AIOLICOCK

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    And yet my inbox remains empty :awshucks:
     
  31. VaxRule

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    The SEC and BigXII deals are the 2 tier system they’ve set up to take as many ACC schools as they can if they do blow it up.
     
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  32. GoodForAnother

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    finally, a coast to coast big 12

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    I’m here for the stroking
     
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  35. 42yard

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    Tons of extremely mad bourgeois and reactionary interests slandering the conference of the proletariat itt. Sad!
     
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  37. DeToxRox

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    On the Ourand/Marchand podcast, Marchand says that while ESPN has an agreement to increase its payout to any schools added via expansion, it doesn’t appear that FOX has that same agreement. So new schools like have to accept a lower payout, or the remaining schools have to agree to take less to make everyone whole.
     
  38. DeToxRox

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    Marchand also said that neither ESPN nor Amazon want the lesser PAC 12 rights, so whoever gets the main package might force the other bidders to leave the table, unless they can agree to a 50/50 split. Ourand seems to think a split is what happens, likely by Thanksgiving.

    My opinion is that further expansion doesn’t make financial sense for either conference, so both are going to sit tight where they are at.
     
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  39. texasraider

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    he’s wrong about Fox
     
  40. kezarmyaj

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    might have to change our name to best 12 mirite?
     
  41. Taques

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    big 12! big 12! big 12!
     
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  43. texasraider

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    My godson’s soccer team also met with the big 12 this week
     
  44. Taques

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    gonzaga wants to give up a guaranteed spot in the tournament?
     
  45. GoodForAnother

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    presumably this would be as a basketball only member but good lord basketball would be absurd
     
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  46. GoodForAnother

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  47. Jimmy the Saint

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    Makes way more sense than that rumor that they were going to join the Big East.
     
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  48. NineteenNine

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    This would be hella dumb.