Better strap up. Realignment could be getting very serious very quickly.

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  1. Tarpon Nole

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    Most likely, but the sec isn’t adding Cincinnati over Clemson, fsu or Miami. That’s just horrible fan fiction
     
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  2. Patface

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  3. Owsley

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    Why would the SEC add any of those schools, though? Especially if they’re tied in to their current conference until 2036 and too poor to buy themselves out? I’m honestly not trying to troll here, but FSU, Miami, and Clemson really don’t add anything.
     
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  4. Pharm

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    think viewership numbers are much more important than footprint
     
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  5. Owsley

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    The only team that would truly change viewership numbers at this point is ND joining.
     
  6. Pharm

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    Nd, miami, Clemson, fsu. Are the top viewership schools out of all the non big ten/sec. Think Oklahoma state is up there too
     
  7. Pharm

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    What?
     
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  8. Tarpon Nole

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    mall three of those teams have brand recognition and give the sec more games to say they can put on tv. Those three playing in Death Valley, at bama, auburn etc etc are games ESPN can put on tv. Not Cincinnati

    you are still believing the silly market argument from 15-20 years ago. Cincinnati gives you a BC, Syracuse, Rutgers clusterfuck
     
  9. jokewood

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    ACC will have the best top teams until it gets raided.

    Big XII may have the best long-term prospects as it was first to scrap regional identity and say "fuck it, we're just going to collect as many football brands as possible."
     
  10. lazy bum

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    from:

    just the top 30

    1. Ohio State (5.19M)
    2. Alabama (5.09M)
    3. Michigan (4.18M)
    4. Notre Dame (3.61M)
    5. LSU (3.22M)
    6. Auburn (3.12M)
    7. Georgia (2.91M)
    8. Oklahoma (2.90M)
    9. Clemson (2.67M)
    10. Penn State (2.55M)
    11. Florida (2.46M)
    12. Wisconsin (2.27M)
    13. Texas (2.269M)
    14. Florida State (2.23M)
    15. Michigan State (2.20M)
    16. Southern Cal (1.98M)
    17. Texas A&M (1.851M)
    18. Tennessee (1.849M)
    19. Oklahoma State (1.64M)
    20. Mississippi (1.61M)
    21. Iowa (1.57M)
    22. Nebraska (1.51M)
    23. Miami (1.503M)
    24. TCU (1.495M)
    25. Stanford (1.43M)
    26. Oregon (1.34M)
    27. Arkansas (1.33M)
    28. Washington (1.32M)
    29. Mississippi State (1.31M)
    30. West Virginia (1.27M)
     
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  11. ned's head

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    I'm sure it's been covered itt, but the truth is that you could just read any article by someone credible who earns a living in the sport. It's been the universal belief that the bigger names are getting snatched up. The sec is the logical place by geography, but obviously there may be big 10 interest in getting into different areas.
     
  12. Tarpon Nole

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    ACC is definitely getting picked apart. I don’t think the big 12 is anything that anyone is going to really try to hold together
     
  13. Patface

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    HE SAID NOTRE DAME IS ALL THAT MATTERS.
     
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  14. Owsley

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    Again, ACC schools (who are poors) are tied up until 2036 unless they want to pay $80 million to get out. Maybe ESPN helps broker a deal, but until then none of y’all are moving.
     
  15. Owsley

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    Thank you Pat. I thought it was clear enough.
     
  16. Detlef Schrempf

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    I wonder if the natural expansion for the SEC is west as well.
     
  17. Tarpon Nole

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    there’s no way to enforce the GOR if a chunk of teams leave

    also, ESPN owns the tv rights
     
  18. Owsley

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    If we wanted Oklahoma State, Baylor, or TCU, we would’ve taken them. I could potentially see us approaching the Arizona schools but that’s about it.
     
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  19. Detlef Schrempf

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    Arizona was where I was looking.
     
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  20. Patface

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    If Stanford/Cal/Oregon/Washington go B1G there's nothing worthwhile out west left to grab besides Gonzaga basketball. Or people can keep pretending BYU matters.
     
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  21. jokewood

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    Arizona State definitely has the women
     
  22. Tarpon Nole

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    Again, they offer nothing for tv money

    people in Arizona who want to watch sec games are already watching sex games
     
  23. Patface

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    Arizona and ASU are the PAC's version of Ole Miss and Miss St.

    "Hey you drank too much in high school to get good grades but you're attractive? I have the perfect school for you!"
     
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  24. Taques

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    The Real Movement

     
  25. Pharm

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    im fully aware of the GoR but I don’t think it going to be a thing moving forward. Again, fsu Clemson, Miami offer a ton more than Cincinnati. Also it’s way more than 80 million
     
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  26. Detlef Schrempf

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    I mean I lived in phoenix, I’m aware of this for sure.
     
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  27. Patface

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    It's not stated as a bad thing at all. Far worse things than the Grove (or so I've heard).
     
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  28. DeToxRox

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    Ah yes this is the way
     
  29. ned's head

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    It's just not going to take that long. Tell you what - I'll bet you $100 to the NIL collective of the winner's choice that FSU will not be in the ACC by 1/1/36. We'll both still be here if we're alive.
     
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  30. IrishLAX2

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    It may not happen immediately, but the more coming news will eventually be that ESPN and Fox slowly get bulldozed by Apple, Amazon, and/or Google for these TV deals. Because they’re the ones with truly bottomless pockets and little regard for turning a profit.
     
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  31. Fran Tarkenton

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    Georgia will probably join Florida in that as well
     
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  32. Patface

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    PAC12: ohhh so this is what being the NHL feels like.
     
  33. jokewood

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    Colorado showing up to Big XII meetings
    [​IMG]
     
  34. Taques

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    announcement: the big 12 TMB representatives are meeting over private message to discuss the possibilities of expansion
     
  35. herb.burdette

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    Cincinnati doesn’t even bring you Cincinnati, let alone Ohio or the Midwest.

    Ohio State and Notre Dame dominate the Fall. Kentucky dominates winter.
     
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  36. Bricktop the white

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    people seem to have a very fundamental misunderstanding of the new world order. Its not 1960 anymore. Alabama is on national TV every single weekend and there isn't a recruit in the country that doesn't know who nick saban is. This round of expansion is about adding teams that 1. draw viewers and 2. are committed to building powerhouse programs (football for most of it, but being great in basketball helps) Huge schools with built in fanbases that put out quality products are for more valuable than schools that have been shit for 40 years but are in big markets. The idea that Cincinnati's location makes it more valuable than a nationally recognized brand like Miami or Clemson is absurd.
     
  37. drewru

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    You’re betting against the mouse with his own magical kingdom? Bad bet imo.
     
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  38. Keef

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    FSU fans taking it really hard that no one wants them
     
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  39. herb.burdette

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    Maryland and Rutgers definitely helped Ohio State raise its profile in NYC and DC Metro, academically and athletically.
     
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  40. Bricktop the white

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    You're being ironic right?
     
  41. Keef

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    The “silly market argument” that drove yesterdays news. By your “viewership” standards USC and UCLA aren’t a big deal.
     
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  42. Tarpon Nole

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    usc vs half the big 10 teams is a prime time national game
     
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  43. The Banks

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    Big12Pac
     
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  44. Daniel Ocean

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    Not to mention wrong about everything. Historically sc has a great wbb program and ucla just signed if not the #1 class pretty close to it.
     
  45. Keef

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    Below is the real reason…it’s all about rights and carriage fees within markets

     
  46. Daniel Ocean

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    [​IMG]
     
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  47. herb.burdette

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    No, applications from those two metro areas are way up and so is athletic recruiting.
     
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  48. Simon Templar

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    Listen I know I’m the outlier great Kansas fan but I was using the collective we to not make the others feel so left out.
     
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  49. Bricktop the white

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    and you really think that's because you blow out rutgers each year and not because OSU has been one of the three best programs of the past 10-20 years?
     
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  50. The Banks

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    A lot of people are showing their ass about geography with this move. Reminds me of the Auburn poster that thought Idaho was flat, the state with the Rockies going straight through it. PAC 12 has Utah, Colorado, and the PNW.
     
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